Why do most people on Pakistani news channels call India as "Hindustan"?

[halupridol]

The answer is simple. Same as for every other state. They exist. That is it. However this question is peddled by those with a agenda. Mostly religious so that they can push more religion into the masses.

I knw kapitaan,,, n the reasons u tell rnt going to help,,,but perhaps exactly why ur narrative is going to fail.
Why u don't get it I don't understand.

 

[Joe Shearer]

la ilaha Illallah

Apparently you are not familiar with Jinnah's reaction to hearing this.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I knw kapitaan,,, n the reasons u tell rnt going to help,,,but perhaps exactly why ur narrative is going to fail.
Why u don't get it I don't understand.

Because that is the only way his country is going to survive and flourish. He HAS to give it his best shot, or just leave the wreck and walk away. It's about commitment.

And you are not familiar with Pakistanis reaction after hearing this

I am familiar with the Muslim League's reaction on being scolded by Jinnah. Once you educate yourself, come back.

 

[El Sidd]

Apparently you are not familiar with Jinnah's reaction to hearing this.

A Bengali supremacist from Golkunda will not explain that to Pakistanis.

 

[Naofumi]

Bengali supremacist

 

[halupridol]

Because that is the only way his country is going to survive and flourish. He HAS to give it his best shot, or just leave the wreck and walk away. It's about commitment.



I am familiar with the Muslim League's reaction on being scolded by Jinnah. Once you educate yourself, come back.

You maybe right but it's going to be a long hard road for them tht way.

 

[El Sidd]

I am familiar with the Muslim League's reaction on being scolded by Jinnah. Once you educate yourself, come back.

Nobody has interest in your Kipling tales.

@Slav Defence there is a limit to this.

Why are you so surprised Plateau boy?

 

[Naofumi]

@Cliftonite A thread on Peshawar's - Purushpura's history if you're interested

https://twitter.com/x/status/1251863183507193857

Why are you so surprised Plateau boy?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I knw kapitaan,,, n the reasons u tell rnt going to help,,,but perhaps exactly why ur narrative is going to fail.

My ideas are up against billion dollar racket funded by oil states combined with a corrupt elite that enjoys immunity because religion helps to sedate the abused masses. Time is on my side. The Indus will outlive them ...

Why u don't get it I don't understand.

Get what?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

He does show racist tendencies

It's not that simple. The issue is not skin tone. My issue is with groups who do not like my ideas because it pecks at their narrative. You know "we made Pakistan. We be noble. You all owe us. We be Turkic/Persians [when most are dalit converts]. We be Muslims. Islam is the glue. Blah blah"

Ideas like Indus Saga or nationalism rooted around Indus are like poison to them ... !

 

[Naofumi]

[when most are dalit converts]

How Dalits got so rich that they dominated the Civil/police services scene there?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It's not that simple. The issue is not skin tone. My issue is with groups who do not like my ideas because it pecks at their narrative. You know "we made Pakistan. We be noble. You all owe us. We be Turkic/Persians [when most are dalit converts]. We be Muslims. Islam is the glue. Blah blah"

Ideas like Indus Saga or nationalism rooted around Indus are like poison to them ... !

And the continous need to harp on about India. The need to demonize that country. The need to make Pakistan a other shadow of India. This all stems to the need to justify the 1947 hijrat. this is wrong. It's applying the insecurities of 5-6% those who migrated on the rest of the native 94%.

This is cause of my beef. Not their skin tone, not their love for birani, not their love for "araay" etc

How

THe fact is. Modernism is a recipe for success in the modern age. And this was introduced by the British. Fact is what is India was subjected to most of this 'modernism' because it was colonized from 1750s onwards. Thus by 1900s most of the native English speaking middle class was found in what is India today. Kolkatta, Mumbai, Delhi etc.

This community ofte tended to be of urban background and once moved to PK under ML was able to gouge significant fruits of the new state. With Karachi being capital this process was institutionalized. However ever since there is slow process of balance but which is recieved by harsh reaction. MQM as a ;party was that reaction. They tried to defend that outsized gouging that was achieved in 1950s when rest of Pakistan was mostly rural bums.

The post card boy for this is Tarek Fateh. Although he has 'jumped' the ship but he is peddling the insecurties I mentioned. And we all know which community TF belongs to.

Indic

What is that. A referance to the Indus Region or people of the Indus River? Cool.

 

[Naofumi]

The post card boy for this is Tarek Fateh. Although he has 'jumped' the ship but he is peddling the insecurties I mentioned. And we all know which community TF belongs to.

I am an Indian born in Pakistan, a Punjabi born in Islam: Tarek Fatah


Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

What is that.

Prakrit speaking people.

 

[Joe Shearer]

@halupridol

Please read #147 and #149. His argument is more complex than you suspect, but at heart, devastatingly simple. It's worth the effort.

 

[Cliftonite]

And the continous need to harp on about India. The need to demonize that country. The need to make Pakistan a other shadow of India. This all stems to the need to justify the 1947 hijrat. this is wrong. It's applying the insecurities of 5-6% those who migrated on the rest of the native 94%.

This is cause of my beef. Not their skin tone, not their love for birani, not their love for "araay" etc

THe fact is. Modernism is a recipe for success in the modern age. And this was introduced by the British. Fact is what is India was subjected to most of this 'modernism' because it was colonized from 1750s onwards. Thus by 1900s most of the native English speaking middle class was found in what is India today. Kolkatta, Mumbai, Delhi etc.

This community ofte tended to be of urban background and once moved to PK under ML was able to gouge significant fruits of the new state. With Karachi being capital this process was institutionalized. However ever since there is slow process of balance but which is recieved by harsh reaction. MQM as a ;party was that reaction. They tried to defend that outsized gouging that was achieved in 1950s when rest of Pakistan was mostly rural bums.

The post card boy for this is Tarek Fateh. Although he has 'jumped' the ship but he is peddling the insecurties I mentioned. And we all know which community TF belongs to.

Tarek Fatah is a Punjabi.

Secondly your brazen lies make me want to ditch the modicum of respect I would have kept in this answer.

You know how much Muhajirs have been suppressed since that motherf**ker Bhutto took hold? To see your community regress further while illiterate sleazebags feudals grab all goverment and civil posts in your city stings.

You don't know how much Muhajirs gave to Pakistan. They and Bengalis are the reasons Pakistan was made. And that is a fact, you don't like that fact you can go shove it up your a**, history is testament to this. The whole movement was started by us.

The people who came to Pakistan gave Pakistan 70% of its infrastructure in those 2 decades. You don't believe me? I can quote you companies name by name set up by us, civil institutions set up by us name by name if you're in the mood for denial. State Bank of Pakistan, PTV, Radio Pakistan, Adamjee, EFU, Edhi foundation, St Pats and Karachi Grammar, BVS, Karachi University, the list is exhaustive.


What the hell are you guys so haughty upon to tell us you 'tolerated' us or gave us space? Look at the shithole that is your interior Sindh. Living in the stone ages. Don't you for a dare think you gave us anything alright. I can totally understand why Bangladesh broke away. It's because of opportunistic 'Indus Valley' sons of the soil who pushed a dagger into the people who made them free from Hindus. You drove the Ahmedis away (thanks to your motherf**king overlord Bhutto), you broke half our country, you made the Muhajirs (Parsis, Hyderabadis, UPites, Goab Christians) powerless in the city they built. I can rinse and repeat for all other minorities.

So wise guy introspect before going off on us and thinking we owe you anything.