Why do Indians dislike Pakistani attachment to Muhammad Bin Qasim?

[Allen Iverson]

dont worry about insecure Indians because they will never be happy in boht cases. many Pakistani who call themselves jats/Raputs/gujjars etc aka from hindu ancestry...Indian call them fake and when they feel for Muslim and has emotional attachment with their religion Islam then they give them label of arab . They dont realize that Race/culture and religion are two different thing . Followers of Islam come from different cultures and races

Indian's don't even care about what religion or race you belong, as long as you keep your tools inside your territory.. First of all, as an Indian and a Hindu settled abroad, we have a notion in my motherland, that Islam was a religion of invaders which is true and hence we don't treat it a peaceful religion, we treat Islam with a caution, because of this so called historical hype that it was the religion of Invaders who invaded our mother land..
But Islam reached Indian sub continent long before Ghauris and Ghaznis in the form Arabic traders through sea.. I've seen a very old Masjid in Cochin, which is the port city.. But whether those traders impacted in spreading of any religion in India, the answer is no.. Because, they were just traders with business interests and religious thoughts were not so easily handled in those days.. So, the only way these many muslims, were created in Indian sub continent is by the force of sword and whip, which were handled by the invaders like Mughals, Turks etc..
According to us, the creation of Pakistan itself is a huge blunder, and due to Pussies like Nehru and Gandhi we were made to face it.. If at all a nation was created on the basis of Religion only, then all the muslims of Indian sub continent should've gone to Pakistan or east Pakistan, which didn't happen because it was a terrible idea..

So now we basically have this moment of irritation, when a muslim calls himself proud of his ancestory with Bin Qasim, because he neither have the blood lines of Qasim nor his followers.. They were simply Hindus who were converted by force and instead of dying while resisting the force they succumbed to it and made themselves muslims.. When someone robs you of your home and make himself the owner of that home, and just to stay in that home, you agreed to live by his terms and conditions and after sometime call yourself proud of it, makes us all laugh at those who says so, with puny..
@Abingdonboy @Sri @Rajaraja Chola @Trichy @TejasMk3

Two nation theory still exists. 1971 was a conspiracy against Pakistan Just like they are stirring up conspiracy in Balochistan today. East Pakistan was too far away to be defended from those bastards anyway If you still wish to live in ignorance thn go to India and eat beef biryani to find out the truth.

It is you who should fit the description of the bolded part above.. Not yet started full scale but Yes, we are trying to do in balochistan, what you are doing in Kashmir for decades.. Atleast stop whining like a female dog and face it with guts, Puny low life..

 

[Kabira]

Indian's don't even care about what religion or race you belong, as long as you keep your tools inside your territory.. First of all, as an Indian and a Hindu settled abroad, we have a notion in my motherland, that Islam was a religion of invaders which is true and hence we don't treat it a peaceful religion, we treat Islam with a caution, because of this so called historical hype that it was the religion of Invaders who invaded our mother land..
But Islam reached Indian sub continent long before Ghauris and Ghaznis in the form Arabic traders through sea.. I've seen a very old Masjid in Cochin, which is the port city.. But whether those traders impacted in spreading of any religion in India, the answer is no.. Because, they were just traders with business interests and religious thoughts were not so easily handled in those days.. So, the only way these many muslims, were created in Indian sub continent is by the force of sword and whip, which were handled by the invaders like Mughals, Turks etc..
According to us, the creation of Pakistan itself is a huge blunder, and due to Pussies like Nehru and Gandhi we were made to face it.. If at all a nation was created on the basis of Religion only, then all the muslims of Indian sub continent should've gone to Pakistan or east Pakistan, which didn't happen because it was a terrible idea..

So now we basically have this moment of irritation, when a muslim calls himself proud of his ancestory with Bin Qasim, because he neither have the blood lines of Qasim nor his followers.. They were simply Hindus who were converted by force and instead of dying while resisting the force they succumbed to it and made themselves muslims.. When someone robs you of your home and make himself the owner of that home, and just to stay in that home, you agreed to live by his terms and conditions and after sometime call yourself proud of it, makes us all laugh at those who says so, with puny..
@Abingdonboy @Sri @Rajaraja Chola @Trichy @TejasMk3

Brother you're likely some tribal hindu like 90% of Indians forced to believe in fake identity of hindu (persian word) forced upon you by muslim invaders. People like you should be thankful to invaders from freeing you from brahmins. About your second point about forced conversions, I wonder why there are so many punjabi khatris baniyas migrants in India now days from west punjab, most docile people in punjab yet remained hindus. Proof there was no forced conversion.

 

[Allen Iverson]

Brother you're likely some tribal hindu like 90% of Indians forced to believe in fake identity of hindu (persian word) forced upon you by muslim invaders. People like you should be thankful to invaders from freeing you from brahmins. About your second point about forced conversions, I wonder why there are so many punjabi khatris baniyas migrants in India now days from west punjab, most docile people in punjab yet remained hindus. Proof there was no forced conversion.

I don't know what you refer about North Indian Ethnic people of Punjab, and Neither do I care.. My ancestoral origins is from south India, and my ancestors have faced, the mass killing and rapings by Tippu Sultan's army as a part of religious cleansing.. There is a famous folklore in our parts on how the whole city escaped from Tippu sultan's army.. I'll tell you someother day.. But as for your notion on Brahmins and Indians, it is childish.. Brahmin is a group of people called priests whose duties where to preach and educate people.. There is nothing called Brahmanism.. It is a hype.. Untoouchability is some useless custom I don't know how it crept inside our society, but there is no reference of that in Hindu scriptures.. So keep your analysis about Hinduism to yourself.. Because I don't want to post my analysis on Islam in return, which will create unnecessary troll wars..

 

[Kabira]

I don't know what you refer about North Indian Ethnic people of Punjab, and Neither do I care.. My ancestoral origins is from south India, and my ancestors have faced, the mass killing and rapings by Tippu Sultan's army as a part of religious cleansing.. There is a famous folklore in our parts on how the whole city escaped from Tippu sultan's army.. I'll tell you someother day.. But as for your notion on Brahmins and Indians, it is childish.. Brahmin is a group of people called priests whose duties where to preach and educate people.. There is nothing called Brahmanism.. It is a hype.. Untoouchability is some useless custom I don't know how it crept inside our society, but there is no reference of that in Hindu scriptures.. So keep your analysis about Hinduism to yourself.. Because I don't want to post my analysis on Islam in return, which will create unnecessary troll wars..

Ok as expected you're tribal from south india who have huge debt to brahmins ( north indian aryan invader descendants) for bringing civilisation/religion to south india. Kind of make you look hypocrite now. Did you know farming in south asia was brought in by Neolithic Iranians? Now we have ancient DNA to prove this. See if not for invaders your people would still dance toka moka in jungles.

 

[Indika]

The red is just your self righteous pompousness that is boring me, please take that to someone who has time for it.

You shall have your views/opinion/heroes and so shall I have mine. By the way I like wording "righteous pompousness" compared to the other words. I shall be an optimist makes me feel better.

he fact that you had to wait till the end to put that little condescending bit in green only solidifies my statement and affirms that the entire post is based on hypocrisy.

Apologies , if those statement looks highly condescending but we are just having a normal conversation. If the facts are wrong you have right to reject them with your own. The word condescending is highly negative just like the bum lickers comment, such words reflects less optimism(observation I am not selling you anything). By the way I did not even attempt to buy off kashmir!

Any way I dont see any point in continuing conversation when you build walls with such grand words.

Marathu bhai why are you proud of the fact ancient Pakistani lost the battle?

I am not marathi. ancient pakistani ?
Neither bhagat singh is named as pakistani nor porus.
Now for the simple question, why has not pakistan not named missiles after porus if he is a hero?

 

[Allen Iverson]

Ok as expected you're tribal from south india who have huge debt to brahmins ( north indian aryan invader descendants) for bringing civilisation/religion to south india. Kind of make you look hypocrite now. Did you know farming in south asia was brought in by Neolithic Iranians? Now we have ancient DNA to prove this. See if not for invaders your people would still dance toka moka in jungles.

Yea, I also heard stories that, Adam and eve were the first human beings created by God and there were lot of scientific evidences Christian communities are bringing up to justify the same..
Even if I consider all that you've said now as true, We are better off with Brahmin fed Hinduism which preaches us to see all the faiths on an equal ground.. Thank god I didn't become a product of Rape and Murder instead a product of perseverance and Revival..

 

[Tergon18]

Ok as expected you're tribal from south india who have huge debt to brahmins ( north indian aryan invader descendants) for bringing civilisation/religion to south india. Kind of make you look hypocrite now. Did you know farming in south asia was brought in by Neolithic Iranians? Now we have ancient DNA to prove this. See if not for invaders your people would still dance toka moka in jungles.

Yes you are correct, but you cant call them Iranians since Iran didnt exist back then. But yes, Gedrosian Baloch is a Eurasian/North-Eastern Anatolian component and is the single major component of every Pakistani population.

Anyway, this thread was kind of dumb to begin with and has now degenerated into utter stupidity and I suggest that the mods close this before a shitfest erupts.

 

[Kabira]

I am not marathi. ancient pakistani ?
Neither bhagat singh is named as pakistani nor porus.
Now for the simple question, why has not pakistan not named missiles after porus if he is a hero?

Bhai I have grown up in land where Porus ruled, same district (current day Gujrat/Kharian) yet you're claiming him to be some marathi or Indian? Naming missiles after non-muslims in Pakistan is considered haram from religious point of view but it doesn't mean Porus was one of you. You're are still Indian at the end of the day, likely never to see land where Porus grow up and ruled forget about any direct connection.

Yes you are correct, but you cant call them Iranians since Iran didnt exist back then. But yes, Gedrosian Baloch is a Eurasian/North-Eastern Anatolian component and is the single major component of every Pakistani population.

Anyway, this thread was kind of dumb to begin with and has now degenerated into utter stupidity and I suggest that the mods close this before a shitfest erupts.

True, its just that papers are naming it Neolithic Iran DNA because skeleton found were from current day Iran but component peaks in Baloch/Brahui of Pakistan.

 

[Rusty]

Indian reaction to the countless Hindu warlords and Kings killing and invading each other over thousands of years

Indian Reaction to one Muslim invader.

 

[Tergon18]

Bhai I have grown up in land where Porus ruled, same district (current day Gujrat/Kharian) yet you're claiming him to be some marathi or Indian? Naming missiles after non-muslims in Pakistan is considered haram from religious point of view but it doesn't mean Porus was one of you. You're are still Indian at the end of the day, likely never to see land where Porus grow up and ruled forget about any direct connection.



True, its just that papers are naming it Neolithic Iran DNA because skeleton found were from current day Iran but component peaks in Baloch/Brahui of Pakistan.

Yup, but man it is rather pointless to argue with these Indian trolls since they are utterly clueless to everything other than the Hindootva propoganda that they spew here 24/7 and you have to explain to them everything from the start and even then you'll probably be called names or whatever other things these guys come up with.

Quite annoying and clingy they are. Also, the thread is idiotic as well in the first place.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Again wrong. Delhi was ruled for 200 years by the Mughals until they were defeated by the Maratha Empire in the early 18th century.

The fact that you are arguing over who was ruled by 'Evil Muslims Foreigners' (who built evil architectural wonders) the longest shows the inferiority complex you Indians have.

I could also say (using your logic) that Indians were 'humiliated, conquered, subjugated and ruled' (using your own words) by the British because they ruled modern day India much longer than they ruled modern day Pakistan.

 

[Allen Iverson]

Indian reaction to the countless Hindu warlords and Kings killing and invading each other over thousands of years

Indian Reaction to one Muslim invader.

Countless Hindu kingdoms, were literally descendants of the same race at the end of the day or at the maximum, they are all Hindus and basically didn't destroy our religious symbols and though they fought with each other they had respected the Yudh dharma (Rules of War).. When Muslim invaders came they are totally different from our race and they don't have any respect or regards for our belief.. As per Yudh dharma, a king should not attack another king or his forces if he had surrendered or if he had lost his weapons in the battle.. The king has to give another chance to re weaponise and fight when he is ready.. But the invaders had no such rules..

Your Ghazni, got defeated 16 times and fled back to where he came, before finally he realised that there is no way that he can defeat the Hindu kingdom in a straight forward war.. He studied all the weaknesses like they wont harm a cow, a child, a woman etc.. They will not attack a civilian who raises both his arms in surrender.. Using all these loopholes he finally waged the war and won.. I don't see any surprise to the reaction.. In fact the reaction of Hindus should be much more aggressive..

The fact that you are arguing over who was ruled by 'Evil Muslims Foreigners' (who built evil architectural wonders) the longest shows the inferiority complex you Indians have.

I could also say (using your logic) that Indians were 'humiliated, conquered, subjugated and ruled' (using your own words) by the British because they ruled modern day India much longer than they ruled modern day Pakistan.

Muslims built architectural wonders.?? Come to south India and see our temples, you'll relearn the meaning of elegance and humongous architectural pieces.. Qutb minar and taj mahal are nothing in front of them.. You can google, tanjore Brihadeeswara Temple just for one example..

I could also say (using your logic) that Indians were 'humiliated, conquered, subjugated and ruled' (using your own words) by the British because they ruled modern day India much longer than they ruled modern day Pakistan.

yes agreed... And the same Brits are far inferior in economy as well as military might than today's India.. This is called as perseverance.. We hindus, lost battles, but never gave up on our religion and our way of life.. Ultimately those who ruled us ended being ruled by us(Corporates).. The dimensions of the fight changes but the fight is still on...

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Muslims built architectural wonders.?? Come to south India and see our temples, you'll relearn the meaning of elegance and humongous architectural pieces.. Qutb minar and taj mahal are nothing in front of them.. You can google, tanjore Brihadeeswara Temple just for one example..

When a tourist or 'foreigner' thinks of India; he thinks of the Taj Mahal and other Mughal buildings. The fact that i've never heard (being an American) of Brihadeeswara Temple builds on this .

yes agreed... And the same Brits are far inferior in economy as well as military might than today's India.. This is called as perseverance.. We hindus, lost battles, but never gave up on our religion and our way of life.. Ultimately those who ruled us ended being ruled by us(Corporates).. The dimensions of the fight changes but the fight is still on...

In quantity yes; India has a 'superior' military and economy than the British. In quality; India ranks even poorer than sub-saharan Africa.

 

[Tiger7]

The fact that you are arguing over who was ruled by 'Evil Muslims Foreigners' (who built evil architectural wonders) the longest shows the inferiority complex you Indians have.

I could also say (using your logic) that Indians were 'humiliated, conquered, subjugated and ruled' (using your own words) by the British because they ruled modern day India much longer than they ruled modern day Pakistan.

Not really. The major part of India was ruled for almost the same amount of time as Pakistan by the British. What is funny is the fact that Pakistan was ruled for almost 2000 years by foreign invaders like the Greeks, Persians, Huns, Arabs, Turks and Mongols because Pakistan was mostly dominated by tribal communities who did not stand a chance against these invaders.

 

[Allen Iverson]

In quantity yes; India has a 'superior' military and economy than the British. In quality; India ranks even poorer than sub-saharan Africa.

Care to quote any neutral sources?? Or you'll be considered a **** fanboy who doesn't have much to do except bash India in any which way, and you'll be trolled without mercy, Agreed??..