Why do Indians dislike Pakistani attachment to Muhammad Bin Qasim?

[Apprentice]

What do you mean by Indians? Muslims of India consider him as a hero. Leftists have no problem with him.

Muhammad Bin Qasim ravaged Sindh. If Muslims of Pakistan have a stockholm syndrome. Why should others care?

Irrespective of attrocities commited on Hindus, Muhamad Bin Qasin, Ghazni and Ghouri were pious Muslims and champions of Islam. I don't see a reason why Muslims should not consider them as heroes.

Tell that to Indians who comment on Dawn news pages and say trash about our love for Muhammad bin Qasim

 

[barbarosa]

I would like to say that there is no concept of heroism in Islam. If a person help to Islam he/she help him/her self.
The person who help or effort for Islam he/she will get compensation from God during this life and after death.

 

[911]

Well to be frank Pakistan is there because of Islamic invasions. Pakistan was created for Islam is a fact. And that they share different heroes, history, civilization, etc etc

"The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, litterateurs. They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap." - M. A. Jinnah.

 

[hussain0216]

For good or bad they were the initial sword thrust of muslims into the belly of hindus,

Ceaser, Alexander, Napoleon, Saladeen, Suleman the Magnificent, Qasim, Baber conquerors will always leave a lasting mark on the world

There conquest of india and whatever it bought with it was necessary


We could never support a hindu over muslim conquerors

 

[Spring Onion]

For good or bad they were the initial sword thrust of muslims into the belly of hindus,

Ceaser, Alexander, Napoleon, Saladeen, Suleman the Magnificent, Qasim, Baber conquerors will always leave a lasting mark on the world

There conquest of india and whatever it bought with it was necessary


We could never support a hindu over muslim conquerors

The problem with Indian Hindus is that they see it as Muslim while the Problem with Pakistani Muslims is that they also see it as Muslim .

We must see it as great expeditions and expansionist movements which are BTW had always been bloody in the history.

 

[cloud4000]

In that case you should go to Bangladesh if you believe Bengalis are the 3rd nation. Pakistan is for those who believe in the exclusively Muslim nation.

NO Sir! the two nation theory is a live, because the Bengali were not convert in Hinduism again in 1971 but they made a separate country for their selves.The two nation theory was made for Hindu nation and Muslim nation, Not for Indian nation and Pakistani nation.

This comes from Wikipedia's entry on Two-Nation Theory:

The two-nation theory (Urdu: دوقومی نظریہ‎ — Dō-qaumī naẓariyah, Devanagari: दो-क़ौमी नज़रिया, Bengali: দ্বিজাতি তত্ত্ব — Dijati totto) is the ideology that the primary identity and unifying denominator of Muslims in the South Asian subcontinent is their religion, rather than their language or ethnicity, and therefore Indian Hindus and Muslims are two distinct nations, regardless of ethnic or other commonalities.[1][2] The two-nation theory was a founding principle of the Pakistan Movement (i.e. the ideology of Pakistan as a Muslim nation-state in South Asia), and the partition of India in 1947.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-nation_theory

The creation of Bangladesh proves that religion is not enough to create a nation, but one has to actually take into account cultural factors like language, food, music, art, etc. Putting the Two-Nation theory in a large context, wouldn't the Caliphate still be here if the theory was valid? Even in current day Pakistan, there are still ethnic tension and linguistic difference even though everybody is a Muslim

On the the issue of Mohammed bin Qasim:

Personally, I don't care what historical figures Pakistan likes to attach itself to, it's their business. I just find it interesting how a bunch of converted people think they have Arab, Persian, and Turkish blood flowing through their veins.

 

[somebozo]

Not only the Indians but also no body likes him in Sindh..MBQ is a post-Bhutto era hero created out of Islamic socialism..otherwise MBQ came with a sole purpose of conquest, loot, plunder and rape..

 

[Joe Shearer]

Two nation theory still exists. 1971 was a conspiracy against Pakistan Just like they are stirring up conspiracy in Balochistan today. East Pakistan was too far away to be defended from those bastards anyway If you still wish to live in ignorance thn go to India and eat beef biryani to find out the truth.

Anytime.

I live in Hyderabad. This bastard will be happy to entertain any bastard who wants a good biryani, beef, mutton or chicken, or a pork vindaloo or pork chops. Anything goes with us bastards.

You do not understand my point of view, How many Punjabi are Muslim in their Punjabi culture and how many Punjabi are Hindu in their Punjabi culture.
How many Sindhi are Muslim in their Sindhi culture and how many are Hindu in their Sindhi culture.
How many Bengali are Muslim in their own culture and how many Bengali are Hindu with their Bengali culture.

Now I'm really confused.

Bhai, who says that...? No one does; if we had a choice from being other than Pakistani - Arabs and Indians would be the last thing to choose. We just celebrate him the same way as we celebrate Mahmud or Saladin. Our ancestors were never really defeated by Muhammad bin Qassim; he just conquered portions of Sindh. Majority of our ancestors were not even Hindus; they primarily followed Buddhism, Animism, Shamanism, Zoroastrianism, and tribal religions. The only region where Hinduism was strong, was south Sindh.

Our ancestors embraced Islam because of the Sufi missionaries not because of Muhammad bin Qasim.

What religion did the Punjab follow, before the Sultanate?

My roots are in Kashmir Valley.


As for the etymology you claim for Hindu Kush's name, then thats a myth.

That sounded like a whine, not a rebuttal.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I once read a book "Dimensions of Pakistan movement". First 14 pages are worth reading.
Its interesting to know about Hindus, their history and their psyche. I even posted about it a few months ago and an Indian called me "delusional". Its funny to know how arrogant and ignorant they are about themselves.
http://www.riazhaq.com/2010/07/hindutva-distortions-whitewash-history.html
They're even good in manipulating facts.

If I had read this before, I'd have done more than call you delusional, @Airdef95 . I'd have gone for you horse, foot and artillery. If you'd like to call me arrogant and ignorant about India, or south Asia, or history in general, please go ahead; a bit of seasoning goes well with all styles and types of cooking.

Haq is such a t*rd.

By himself, I tend to ignore him with the purest contempt, because he builds a superstructure of nonsensical type and proportions, filled with venom, on a sound foundation. It is when he influences the unwary that I begin to get anxious about the huge mental damage that he causes.

 

[Airdef95]

. I'd have gone for you horse, foot and artillery.

I like that.

 

[SrNair]

As we are Muslim first we are of course going to identify with Bin Qasim. But many Indians are still confused as to how we celebrate his victory even though our ancestors were 'Hindus'.

Its not just Pakistanis Indians have this problem with. I remember a Kashmiri Facebook page where Kashmiris celebrated Muhammad Bin Qasim as their hero and Indians were outraged.

So make your choice. Who is your hero?

Confused ??
Why should we confused about your own doubt ?
We have clear picture about our history and culture .We knows who is right and wrong ?
Any why why should you cares about our opinion ?

 

[Cherokee]

I like that.

What a cringe worthy comeback somehow trying to overcompensate with the use of a smiley .

 

[Joe Shearer]

I like that.

Old-fashioned phrase, fit for use by an old-fashioned person.

What a cringe worthy comeback somehow trying to overcompensate with the use of a smiley .

Why? I liked his amused response. Cringe-worthy? Aren't you being very harsh?

I would like to say that there is no concept of heroism in Islam. If a person help to Islam he/she help him/her self.
The person who help or effort for Islam he/she will get compensation from God during this life and after death.

Forgive me, but that sounds terribly contractual.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Leave all that, first tell me who is Muhammad Bin Qasim.??

Exactly the average Indian perception.

Muhamud Bin Qasim is newly introduced name to modern Indians from Pakistan, probably because Arabs invasions of India had hardly any effect on Indian history considered how badly they were defeated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rajasthan

 

[Airdef95]

Old-fashioned phrase, fit for use by an old-fashioned person.

What is so old fashioned in that? I only said that i like your resentment over my views about India.
After all patriotism is a conviction that the country you were born in is superior to the others.