Why did France allow the tabloid to provoke Muslims?

[mujhaidind]

Sarcasm is clearly lost on you for your making such a ridiculous statement. And I'm not acting tough at all. I'm calling a spade a spade. What I have written is perfectly clear to the whole world. Why are so many Moslem countries so backward, lawless, and underdeveloped? It is because the people of these countries haven't got what it takes to develop and make progress: they are lazy, incompetent, corrupt, and unproductive. If you want people to respect your religion and people, do something constructive like developing your countries. The people of these countries ought to stop being lazy, incompetent, corrupt, and unproductive then they will earn the respect of others. Before you start attacking and criticising other countries, get your own house in order. And anyway, many Moslems insult us calling Westerners all sorts of names. If you don't want to be attacked and insulted, don't start it.

Keep repeating yourself again and again!
The bottom line is if you draw such cartoons, then be prepared for attacks. Even the moderate muslims wont condemn these attacks.

 

[FuturePAF]

How would the Prophet PBUH responded when being insulted?
The issue in France, these horrific murders, In my opinion is a matter of failure of some parts of the society and some of the immigrants to come to terms with what the beliefs and principles each other holds. these criminals were probably "hopeless youths" that were taken advantage of in the poorer ethnic Algerian suburbs of Paris.

France is "Post-Christian" Nation, like much of Europe, basically secular, and is a part of Western culture that wants to only accept the "good parts" of christian belief (morals) and have a laissez faire attitude towards how people live their lives and what they want to due in their own expression of their life. everyone wants to do what makes them happy (within the limits of not harming others or society); i.e. "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

What America understands more, and Europe struggles with is when you take in immigrants, they need to adapt to their new nations, and the nations have to adopt somewhat to them. there is no benefit to take in immigrants without trying to "assimilate" them, only treating them like workers, and having large populations on the outskirts of large cities without hope of a future (jobs and to be treated, at least by the state, as "full citizens")

As a Muslim we can't say we are not offended by these crude cartoons, but what benefit does anyone get from violence, it doesn't change the French culture, or the Danish culture.

the best example of the leftist/secular art movement that pushes the boundaries of decency is an art exhibit that has been getting "violent" responses (death threats, vandalism) by Christians; it is called "Piss Christ"

America is a little more "Right Wing" and "Christian" than Europe (so they respects/accommodate Christianity/religion more)/Has a national narrative of "nation of immigrants"/but also of everyone knows the freedoms we are all allowed/and it assimilates its immigrants better

that is probably why the level of tension/unease between peoples (native and immigrant) reported is higher in europe than in america/canada

also notice people notice their differences when the economy is in the tank
no one really brings up/addressed these issues when there is a booming economy

 

[A.M.]

Freedom of speech. Ever heard of it?

 

[ito]

Keep repeating yourself again and again!
The bottom line is if you draw such cartoons, then be prepared for attacks. Even the moderate muslims wont condemn these attacks.

By the way where do you live in Hyderabad? I too live in Hyderabad.

 

[JF-17-PAF]

The French, like their Americlones, feel entitled to say, act, do whatever they wish under their self-given right of "freedom of speech" and free-will. We see stories like this one and we think that it just happened all of a sudden, but provocations and "racism" against Muslims in the United States and Western Europe (France, Britain, etc) have been happening for DECADES. not just muslims btw, also Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc). It just so happens that current Muslim hatred and provocations by Westerners have reached a boiling point.

I'm just surprised that this was it.

 

[FuturePAF]

Those news channels are doing a very good job.Instead of calling some hypocrite Muslims who sugar coat their words with clauses like" Islam is a religion of peace or Islam considers killing one human as killing the entire humanity" to their talk shows they are now calling true Muslims like anjum chaudhary (people like Osama,mullah Omar,hakeemullah mehsud,lakvi represent true Islam)who don't give two hoots to the image of islam or Muslims because they believe what they speak and do.There is a lot of discussion that needs to be done about the barbaric nature of abrahamic religions.All the religions which encourage cult attitude like abrahamic religions should be despised.Wake up humanity before it is too late.

There are cult like elements in non-abrahamic religions as well.
Is the root of your gripe with "abrahamic" religions the monotheism, unlike Hinduism and its polytheism

its true that the three main Abrahamic religions consider polytheism wrong. that's not an insult, but rather a statement of their beliefs. punishment due to worshiping the golden calf by the jews and the idols destroyed in Mecca by the muslims being the two examples that come to mind at this moment.

when Islam considers Idol worhip "jahiliyyah" or ignorance, it may cause offense to hindus and other who worship their gods through idols. (A Brahmin-caste doctoral student I met in university explained to me, it is the spirit that resides within the statue that he worships)

I understand the abrahamic religions therefore think of your religion as "lesser than" their own, but even when they hold that belief, they can still respect your religion for the good aspects that add up to make many if not most hindus the decent hard working people that they are, In India and around the world.

This is how one can believe their own beliefs, and still respect the beliefs of another (or at least the practitioners of other beliefs).

I am pretty sure even the so called moderate Muslims maybe laughing inside.They get a sadistic pleasure when they see so called offenders of Muhammad getting killed.They are in fact sending their prayers for the killers.

Actually most Muslims are pissed off these assholes using our collective names and dragging it down with their crimes
I hope they get their punishment on the day of judgement, i'm glad the french got these guys

Is that clear enough for you

 

[ghoul]

And why do people like Anjem Chaudhary and groups like ISIS get so much mainstream media attention? There's a difference between news reporting and marketing such persons and groups.

 

[I.R.A]

if Muslims made fun of Jesus

A Muslim cannot make fun of or insult any of the Prophets whether its Moses, Jesus, Jacob, David, Abraham, Adam and all of other Prophets, which according to Islam number approximately one hundred and twenty four thousand. Its the core belief of Islam to believe in and respect all Prophets, without this a person cannot be a Muslim.

 

[anonymus]

oh boo hoo
we can wipe out whole France if went it too
i repeat
WHOLE FRANCE
cuz the only thing french are good at is surrendering

How would you Destroy France?

You do not even have missiles capable of reaching Israel which is in Asia. How would you hit a country which is 8000Km away (ICBM range) from Pakistan?

On top of that you repainted Nodongs are primitive missiles. They would be shot down by any and every Ballistic missile defence system in the world.


So how would you deliver nukes to destroy WHOLE FRANCE? By using "Ghaffor, the nuclear donkey"!

Then according to this logic there are many hindus and christians working in gulf countries. May be Muslims should start making fun of their religions too since its Muslim land. What kind of childish logic is that? And as far as europe going against Muslims is concerned, you really think they can do anything? Americans have been trying since 14 years to oppress Muslim nations what have they achieved? You know if it really becomes Muslims against the world and all the peaceful ones decide to pick up weapons, ( the way Muslims are being subjects of unfair hatred I don't see that time very far ) no one will be able to live with peace. So before that happens people must rethink how to overcome these problems not with force but with intelligence.

Poor example.

Middle East prohibits practice of any other religion except Islam.


And where was this rightful indignation of yours when mard-e-momin blasted Bamiyan Buddha to smithereens.

 

[FuturePAF]

And why do people like Anjem Chaudhary and groups like ISIS get so much mainstream media attention? There's a difference between news reporting and marketing such persons and groups.

people like Anjem Chaudhary are useful idiots to "News" channels like Fox News and Newsmax
Fox promotes a Muslim boogeyman to scare the audience and boost rating, that's Rupert Murdoch's MO

 

[anonymus]

Weapons aren't hard to produce or acquire if you have the money.

Actually they are; else China which has more money that moslems would not be struggling to produce a half decent Jet Engine.


And no you cannot buy them.

In Islam vs Christians, Russia would side with Christians. It is more Christian than any other European country and one which has massacred muslims with impunity is very recent past. The best muslims would be able to buy are Cheap Chinese knockoffs which would not even work because West+Russia did not supplied critical equipment like Engines.

 

[Shot-Caller]

Poor example.

Middle East prohibits practice of any other religion except Islam.


And where was this rightful indignation of yours when mard-e-momin blasted Bamiyan Buddha to smithereens.

First of all let me quote something to you.

''There are many Hindus in Arab states, many due to the migration of Indians to the oil-rich states around the Persian Gulf.

Hindu temples have been built in Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Yemen and Oman.

Millions of Indian diaspora, of different religions, reside and work in the Arab countries.''

I'm sure those temples aren't built for tourism purposes.

Just in case you need addresses of a few.

Dubai.

1. Address: Bur Ali Bin Abi Taleb Street - Dubai - United Arab Emirates
   
   Bahrain.
   Address: Manama Center, Manama, Bahrain
   Oman.
   Sri Krishna Temple Address:Al Farahidi Street, Muscat, Oman
   
   There are cremation centers too and since Muslims don't cremate, I wonder who does. So there goes your baseless argument. Even though your post does not deserve any further comments but still let me tell you what I meant by my post was if Muslims in europe have to live with the fact that their religion is something that can be made fun of and they should look the other way then what if same thing happens to non Muslims working in Muslim countries? It would not be utterly immature.
   

 

[Prometheus]

well Taliban when they were ruling Afghanistan .....destroyed 1500 years old Buddhist Statues ..............a world heritage site..........a point to be noted ....they were in govt at that time...............so a Islamic govt destroyed a religious ideols of Budhism.................

DID WE SAW ANY BUDHIST country killing muslims????? like Japan or Sri lanka ????? as a revenge ???

why Muslims gets extreme when provoked??? why not others???

 

[cirr]

Do not provoke anyone in the name of “freedom of speech”

There is no such thing as “freedom of speech”。

The western powers promote the illusion of the so-called “freedom of speech” only because they know that they are in firm control of the world's major media outlets，i.e.，all propaganda and brainwashing machines that have global reaches and therefore acutally matter。

 

[Red Spinifex]

Keep repeating yourself again and again!
The bottom line is if you draw such cartoons, then be prepared for attacks. Even the moderate muslims wont condemn these attacks.

You keep repeating yourself. Blah! Blah! Blah! The bottom line is we won't be dictated to by Moslem religious fanatics who are moral weaklings about we can and cannot say or draw in our own countries. We will draw and publish images of whatever or whomever we like in our own countries. If we are attacked for drawing and publishing such images, then there will be retaliation in kind or some very nasty, hardline right-wing political party will come to power, like the National Front in France, that will make life a living hell for Moslems in the West. Bring it on, girls! We'll be here.

Here he is one of Charlie Hebdo's depictions of Mohammed again, just in case you missed it the first time:

If you want to see ALL the depictions of Mohammed by Charlie Hebdo from their magazine covers, follow the link below to The Huffington Post website:

These Are The Charlie Hebdo Cartoons That Terrorists Thought Were Worth Killing Over