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Why China Lacks Gangnam Style : The New Yorker

OCTOBER 3, 2012
WHY CHINA LACKS GANGNAM STYLE
POSTED BY EVAN OSNOS

In China, the Gangnam phenomenon carries a special pique. It has left people asking, Why couldn’t we come up with that? China, after all, dwarfs Korea in political clout, money, and market power, and it cranks out more singers and dancers in a single city than Korea does nationwide. Chinese political leaders are constantly talking about the need for “soft power”—they have dotted the globe with Confucius Institutes to rival the Alliance Française, and they have expanded radio and television stations in smaller countries that might be tired of American-dominated news. Last year, the Communist Party even declared culture a national priority and vowed to produce its own share of global cultural brands.

So, should we expect a Chinese Gangnam soon? Don’t count on it. “PSY is a satirist, making fun, and having fun,” said John Delury, an expert on China and Korea who teaches international relations at Yonsei University in Seoul. “Korea tends to have more irony and satire in its comedy than China, and there aren’t the impediments to exporting things that question or poke fun of Korean society, politics, etc. And I think somehow people all over the world feel invited to join in, despite a huge cultural difference, when someone from a foreign place is making a bit of fun of themselves. That’s inviting. But China, especially acting in its official, soft-power capacity, is only comfortable exporting things that show off the greatness of its ancient civilization or economic development. That’s not terribly inviting.”

In Chinese cultural circles there is a name for this: the “ ‘Kung Fu Panda’ problem,” named for the 2008 DreamWorks movie. It refers to the fact that the most successful film about two of China’s national symbols—Kung Fu and pandas—could only be made by a foreigner because Chinese filmmakers would never try to play with such solemn subjects. The director Lu Chuan, for example, once agreed to produce an animated film for the Beijing Olympics, but after he embarked on the project, he discovered he was not supposed to let his mind run wild. “I kept receiving directions and orders from related parties on how the movie should be like. An important part of the instructions was that the animation should promote Chinese culture,” he wrote later. “We were given very specific rules on how to promote it. And some were not flexible about ‘promoting the Olympic spirit,’ ‘promoting Chinese culture’ or ‘rich in Chinese elements.’ ” He went on, “Under such pressure, my co-workers and I really felt stifled. The fun and joy from doing something interesting left us, together with our imagination and creativity. The planned animation was never produced.”

For now, China’s Gangnam moment seems far off. “In China, culture and the arts develop under the watchful eye of the government, and anything too hip or interesting gets either shut down or bought up. In Korea, by contrast, artists and entertainers thrive in a space that is highly commercialized but also pretty much free of the heavy hand of the state,” Delury told me, adding, “I kid government officials that the moment they understand why K-pop is so successful and try to replicate it, they will destroy it.”

As long as China remains under the control of the communist party, China will not become a superpower. And that's good for the people of the world, but bad for Chinese citizens themselves.
 
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Why doesn't South Korea have its own Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Jacky Chan or Chow Young Fat? Why are they all a bunch of girly-man whining about entertainment on a military forum for real men?

All these are icons of soft power as well.

Entertainment has a large part in creating positive image. Please remember that Chan and Lee became famous as Hong Kongers- when HK wasn't Chinese territory.

But mainland China can do a lot if it has the will to.

Come on buddy, give it a try.

Soft power is actually good. It gives the world a perspective of your lighter side as well.

There's no harm in it.

Soft doesn't mean literally soft; it simply means that you also have a lighter side.

You got to admit; Korea is pretty strong in this area.
 
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Why doesn't South Korea have its own Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Jacky Chan or Chow Young Fat? Why are they all a bunch of girly-man whining about entertainment on a military forum for real men?
the only reason they are known to the west is because they performed in western movies.
not so in gangnam style case.
 
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That's why I hate the CCP, without this vile party we can develop pxrn industry legally.

Because Wuxia movie is rare in Korea.

Oh, Bruce Lee, Jacky Chan, and Chow Yun Fat are HK movie stars, not Chinese movie stars. Jet Li fled to Singapore like many other Chinese actors.

HK is Chinese (not PRC).
 
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That's why I hate the CCP, without this vile party we can develop pxrn industry legally.



HK is Chinese (not PRC).

HK speaks different languages(Cantonese and English) from China, is culturally different from China, and Hong Kongese themselves do not consider themselves Chinese, but Hong Kongese.

Asking Hong Kongese if they feel they are Chinese is like asking Tibetans and Uyghurs if they feel they are Chinese. The answer is hell no.
 
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one only has to watch a few mainland shows and compare them to taiwanese and korean ones. mainland has a long way to go
 
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Because Wuxia movie is rare in Korea.

Oh, Bruce Lee, Jacky Chan, and Chow Yun Fat are HK movie stars, not Chinese movie stars. Jet Li fled to Singapore like many other Chinese actors.

Everyone else in the world including themselves knows they're Chinese. Only Koreans couldn't accept the fact.

Stick to your TKD, or else you'll get beaten by Chinese again on the next Olympics.

HK speaks different languages(Cantonese and English) from China, is culturally different from China, and Hong Kongese themselves do not consider themselves Chinese, but Hong Kongese.

Asking Hong Kongese if they feel they are Chinese is like asking Tibetans and Uyghurs if they feel they are Chinese. The answer is hell no.

And this is what happens when you're afraid of the power of union of Chinese. Trying to separate Chineses apart isn't going to change the fact that we've doubled the # of Koreas in the past. Thus there is N.Koreans and S.Koreans, and the interesting part is that they both hates each other :rofl: A perfect scenario for the Chinese.


Translation: During a movie award ceremony in Hong Kong, the speaker is asking a Japanese child (not sure how to put it in English), to tell the Japanese government that "Diaoyu" island belongs to China, when he goes back to Japan. Everyone clapped.
 
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Stick to your TKD, or else you'll get beaten by Chinese again on the next Olympics.
Well, Chinese martial artists must practice TKD to go to the Olympics, because the IOC doesn't take Wushu and the Wushu artists must stay home.
 
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HK speaks different languages(Cantonese and English) from China, is culturally different from China, and Hong Kongese themselves do not consider themselves Chinese, but Hong Kongese.

Asking Hong Kongese if they feel they are Chinese is like asking Tibetans and Uyghurs if they feel they are Chinese. The answer is hell no.

What a joke JayAtl. :lol:

The vast majority of Cantonese speakers in the world live in Guangdong province.
 
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Why doesn't South Korea have its own Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Jacky Chan or Chow Young Fat? Why are they all a bunch of girly-man whining about entertainment on a military forum for real men?

Bruce Lee

Jet Li

Jacky Chan

Chow Young Fat

Chinaman has to use White Man's Name to get Famous. :lol:
 
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Awesome song.....Makes you to dance....

Love Koreans work. I was fond of their movies, now this song.
 
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Bruce Lee

Jet Li

Jacky Chan

Chow Young Fat

Chinaman has to use White Man's Name to get Famous. :lol:

Those are their English names, not their Chinese names. :lol: And Chow Yun Fat is a purely Chinese name.

Ask the average person in the world to name a Chinese movie star. Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li, everyone knows these names.

Now ask the average person in the world to name a Bollywood star... Nothing. :no:

The only thing that they will know is "Slum Millionaire", which is a British made film.
 
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