Why Bangladesh?

[LA se Karachi]

Why a complete blind should finger point at a visually impaired person and call him a blind?

I agree that Pakistan is poor too, though less so than Bangladesh.

At least, BD does not allow so-called honor killing of women

Honor killings are not necessarily common in Pakistan, but they do happen on very rare occasions. However, they occur in Bangladesh too.

"Reports submitted to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights show that honor killings have occurred in
Bangladesh, Great Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey,and Uganda. In countries not submitting reports to the UN, the practice was condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban government in Afghanistan, and has been reported in Iraq and Iran."

https://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/212/readings/honor-kil-ng.pdf

and bomb mosques to kill Muslims from other sects. We are glad not to have that kind of backward 1500 year old mentality.

Terrorists don't represent the average citizen. That shouldn't have to be explained.

Please don't try and claim some kind of moral high ground. People in your country burn Hindu temples and homes too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_violence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_violence

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/opinion/attacks-on-hindus-in-bangladesh.html

 

[UKBengali]

That's not how it works honey but there is no point in constantly explaining it to a people who are incapable of understanding.

Anyway, since Bangladesh is apparently a 'prosperous, thriving and an industrial powerhouse' as your members make it out to be in this thread; could you please take back your 5m+ strong Bengali immigrant and 2m illegal Bengali immigrant communities (in Karachi alone) back to Utopiadesh?

Bengali women make up almost all of the prostitutes of Karachi. Heck even Bengali men sell themselves to certain Afghan clients who are interested. They are representing their nationality and country the true 'Bengali way' just in the case of Hasina towards Modi/India

Plucking numbers out of thin air wont make your claims credible.

Pakistan has managed 3.5% GDP/capita growth during it's best decade of the 1980s, while BD has is now growing at around 6% GDP/capita sustained. Last year Pakistan GDP/capita growth was at 3% and this year forecast to edge up to 3.5%. Simply the two economies are in different trajectories.

 

[Mage]

I agree that Pakistan is poor too, though less so than Bangladesh.

The nominal GDP per capita has almost equaled, you know. Give it a couple more years and you won't be able to use this argument.

Terrorists don't represent the average citizen. That shouldn't have to be explained.

But your government does represent average citizens, right?

So...you know I've stated this before, they allow US to bomb your own territory whoch sometimes kill civilians.

In Pakistan, nobody cares about Bangladesh.

Bingo...now you realized why we got separated.

that's why they left pakistan

 

[UKBengali]

https://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/212/readings/honor-kil-ng.pdf




Terrorists don't represent the average citizen. That shouldn't have to be explained.

Please don't try and claim some kind of moral high ground. People in your country burn Hindu temples and homes too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_violence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_violence

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/opinion/attacks-on-hindus-in-bangladesh.html

How many people get killed in religious violence in BD compared to Pakistan?

It is many thousands in Pakistan every year whereas it wont even get into double digits in BD.

n. The report states that, if allowance is made for the undervaluation of foreign exchange in terms of Pakistan’s domestic currency, the total transfer from East to West Pakistan over the period 1948/49-1968/69 was Rs 31,000,000,000 [1971 terms]. Using the then exchange rate of Rs 11.90 to the dollar, this worked out to 2.6 thousand million dollars in 1971 terms.

This is a truly astounding figure.

2.1 billion US dollars in 1971 prices would be many tens of billions now. Add in the fact that Pakistan used primarily BD wealth to finance the army, that was 95% West Pakistani, then the transfer is simply mind boggling.

 

[Mage]

Please don't try and claim some kind of moral high ground. People in your country burn Hindu temples and homes too

The difference is...such incidents happen in Bangladesh like once or twice every year.

And in Pakistan almost every week. And just check the number of deaths due to religious violence in the respective countries.

 

[LA se Karachi]

The nominal GDP per capita has almost equaled, you know. Give it a couple more years and you won't be able to use this argument.

First of all, I was mostly agreeing with him. He had a point when he said that neither country is doing well. Thanks for ruining that. Secondly, it is per capita GDP (PPP) that really matters in any comparison. But tell yourself whatever you want.

Poverty is another measurement. Just because a country's per capita GDP is higher, does not mean its poverty is necessarily lower. Do a simple google search.

But your government does represent average citizens, right?

So...you know I've stated this before, they allow US to bomb your own territory whoch sometimes kill civilians.

What a stupid thing to say. First of all, the US government dropped a grand total of 3 bombs on Pakistan in 2016, so it's not much of an issue anymore.

Secondly, in years past most of the drone strikes were used to target terrorists, often those who crossed back and forth between the Afghanistan and Pakistan border in Waziristan. Almost all of those who were killed were terrorists/militants (around 95%). Civilian casualties were rare.

The Pakistani military carries out operations against terrorists too. Rarely, there are few civilian causalities as well. This is the reality of warfare.

The difference is...such incidents happen in Bangladesh like once or twice every year.

And in Pakistan almost every week. And just check the number of deaths due to religious violence in the respective countries.

The point was that very few Pakistanis die as a result of these activities. Some sectarian incidents that affect a tiny fraction of the population do not represent the country as whole. Just as they don't in Bangladesh.

 

[bluesky]

I agree that Pakistan is poor too, though less so than Bangladesh.

Our country is poorer than Pakistan, but is more civilized. We do not bomb the mosques built by non-Sunni sects. We believe only Allah knows who are better Muslims and who are worse. But, Sunni Muslims in Pakistan love to to do what we term, "KHODKARI". Instead of depending on Allah, they themselves decide who are and who are not good Muslims. Only last week, the a Sunni Pakistani group bombed and killed more than 100 innocent victims in their own country.

Inflicting and enjoying unspeakable physical and mental torture to others is an act that was prevalent 1400 years ago among the Arabs and afterwards among the barbarian non-Muslim Mongols. So, we ask you how many centuries more will you people take to get rid of this mentality of not hating others only because they possess opinions different from you?

 

[LA se Karachi]

Our country is poorer than Pakistan, but is more civilized than Pakistan. We do not bomb the mosques built by non-Sunni sects. We believe only Allah knows who are better and who are worse Muslims. But, Sunni Muslims in Pakistan love to to do what we term, "KHODKARI". Instead of depending on Allah, they themselves decide who are and who are not good Muslims. Only last week, the Sunni Pakistanis bombed and killed more than 100 innocent victims in their own country.

Inflicting and enjoying unspeakable physical and mental torture to others is an act that was prevalent 1500 years ago among the Arabs and afterwards among the barbarian non-Muslim Mongols. So, we ask you how many centuries more will you people take to get rid of this mentality of not to hate others only because their opinions differ from you?

Please read my previous posts in this thread. Very few people experience or participate in such attacks, and terrorists do not represent the population at-large. Just as those who attack Hindus or secular bloggers do not represent Bangladesh. It's as simple as that.

And it is an interesting assertion coming from you that people in Pakistan "hate others only because their opinions differ", as you hail from a country where questioning the events of 1971 could be considered a crime, and where the government kills dozens of people who protest internationally-condemned trials conducted by kangaroo courts. At least the events you discuss in Pakistan involve terrorists, not the government.

In any case, I was not trying to fight with you. If you want to continue trolling, go ahead and do so. Some of you people seem to have an unhealthy obsession with Pakistan, and always will.

 

[Mage]

First of all, I was mostly agreeing with him. He had a point when he said that neither country is doing well. Thanks for ruining that.

Well then, my apologies. I don't really like make think kind of posts unless I see Pakistanis talking trash about Bangladesh. I saw it in a different thread......was posting from my phone so probably confused which thread I was posting to.

What a stupid thing to say. First of all, the US government dropped a grand total of 3 bombs on Pakistan in 2016, so it's not much of an issue anymore.

It is an important issue. Do not kid yourself. A nuclear power country which has one of the strongest military in the world, gets bombed by a foreign power. This is pathetic and insulting.

The point was that very few Pakistanis die as a result of these activities. Some sectarian incidents that affect a tiny fraction of the population do not represent the country as whole. Just as they don't in Bangladesh.

I never said these incidents represent Pakistan. I was just pointing out that this kind of incidents is less common in Bangladesh than Pakistan.

 

[LA se Karachi]

It is an important issue. Do not kid yourself. A nuclear power country which has one of the strongest military in the world, gets bombed by a foreign power. This is pathetic and insulting.

I couldn't disagree more. Drone strikes that are used to target terrorists are nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not sure what's "pathetic and insulting" about that. What a dumb thing to say.

In the Libyan uprising, the rebel groups used NATO strikes to target Gaddafi's forces. Pakistan did not have armed drone strike capability at the time, but the US obviously did. Pakistan has since developed its own armed drones too, and I suspect that it will increasingly put them to use.

 

[Mage]

I couldn't disagree more. Drone strikes that are used to target terrorists are nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not sure what's "pathetic and insulting" about that. What a stupid thing to say.

What do average Pakistanis think about US drone strikes in Pakistan?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

What do average Pakistanis think about US drone strikes in Pakistan?

Does it count in Pakistan?

 

[LA se Karachi]

What do average Pakistanis think about US drone strikes in Pakistan?

That's not really the point here. Leaked documents have shown that Pakistan and the US have collaborated on these strikes. Who agrees or disagrees with the strikes is a separate conversation.

I was only responding to your claim that it is somehow "pathetic and insulting" for Pakistan to accept help from the US with those drone strikes (few countries have that capability). I don't see anything wrong with that. Other groups have used drone strikes from foreign countries to help them as well, and Pakistan itself has the capability now (though it's just started using them).

 

[Mage]

That's not really the point here. Leaked documents have shown that Pakistan and the US have collaborated on these strikes. Who agrees or disagrees with the strikes is a separate conversation.

Did they also collaborated when Navy seals killed Osama in Pakistan?

I was only responding to your claim that it is somehow "pathetic and insulting"

And I stand by my claim that it is indeed pathetic and insulting.
Go read these:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/any-...n-pakistan-will-ruin-pak-us-relations.434353/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/drone-strikes-in-pakistan-by-nato-who-allowed-this.479674/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/us-p...al-killed-by-drone-strike-in-pakistan.449833/

You deal with the terrorists of your country yourself. You don't invite others to drone bomb you which may result in civilian death.

 

[LA se Karachi]

Did they also collaborated when Navy seals killed Osama in Pakistan?

Almost certainly. It's highly unlikely that any helicopter could have flown that far into Pakistani territory from Afghanistan without anyone noticing. There have been accounts published that state Pakistan knew about the raid, it's not just my opinion. Indeed, it only makes sense.

It's also probably no coincidence that security arrived on the scene only after the US forces had left. It was so loud, that a Pakistani man unknowingly live-blogged the raid over twitter. But no one showed up while it was going on...

And I stand by my claim that it is indeed pathetic and insulting.
Go read these:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/any-...n-pakistan-will-ruin-pak-us-relations.434353/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/drone-strikes-in-pakistan-by-nato-who-allowed-this.479674/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/us-p...al-killed-by-drone-strike-in-pakistan.449833/

That is merely your opinion, and it makes little sense to me. It's best that those terrorists were eliminated. Other countries have accepted drone strikes from foreign forces too, not just Pakistan.

You deal with the terrorists of your country yourself. You don't invite others to drone bomb you which may result in civilian death.

Hmm. I guess then you shouldn't invite another country to help "liberate" your land either...