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A1Kaid, keep the J&K issue out of this thread, as it has got nothing to do with Kashmiris of whether they want to be refered as Indian or not.

I think its not about brainwashing or any thing, its about how confident you feel consedering your looks, if one thinks thatbeing fair makes him/her confident and feel good then use it and if not dont use it, quite simple.

And there is no need to talk that its an Obsession only India :azn:
 
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Its a big deal in all of Asia except Pakistan. I've seen it everywhere, they equate fairer skin with good looks. Now whats good looks is subjective, but there's almost worlwide preference for lighter skin. how many shades do the african americans come in? and they'll tell you that the lighter among them are preferred.

Tell me which country does not sell whitening creams? Indian media is very visible, the market vast, ad budgets huge, thats it. it successful marketing, even tho i am strictly against the marketing tactics used by these companies.

One member will be shocked to hear this - these creams sell big in China :)
 
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PAKISTAN: Focus on skin bleaching

ISLAMABAD, 4 March 2002 (IRIN) - Graduating with a master's degree in science, 23 year-old Nasim Jamil is an attractive young Pakistani lady, but unhappy with her looks. "I am not fair enough," she told IRIN. "White is best," she maintained.

Such comments are not uncommon in this Asian country, where skin colour is increasingly being promoted to reflect one's position in society, a phenomenon which has serious implications. Today Jamil is receiving counselling in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, to improve her self-esteem.

"When you ask Pakistani ladies what their idea of an ideal woman is, they will tell you that she should have fair skin," Fozia Yasmin, a clinical psychologist with the Pakistani nongovernmental organisation Rozan, told IRIN. Some 50 percent of women that she had counselled had been concerned about their skin colour, she added. Employing three psychologists, Rozan offers workshops on building self-esteem in colleges, and counselling for women.

"You see advertisements for skin creams everywhere you go in this country," she explained, saying that women in this Islamic nation were expected to look their best at all times, but were at the same time expected to be subservient. She used the example of a television advertisement in which a well-known Pakistani actress is promoting a skin bleaching cream. "Women admire these beauties, and they want to look like them, so they will buy the product," Yasmin said.

Skin colour also determines social status, according to the clinical psychologist, who said it was acceptable to be darker skinned if you were a member of the lower classes, but not if you were part of the upper strata in Pakistan. Yasmin added that she had often overheard conversations in which older women encouraged girls to use bleaching creams, telling them that it would improve their chances of finding a wealthier husband. "Men in this country are also to blame, as they look for a marriage partner who is light skinned," she stressed.

However, the psychological aspect is not the only component of skin bleaching: doctors also warn of physical damage. "We have between 10 and 15 female patients per month who are treated for skin burns caused by these bleaching creams," a skin specialist at the state-run Pakistan Institute for Medical Sciences in Islamabad, Dr Naureen Zaheer, told IRIN.

Some women also use steroids to whiten their skin. Zaheer described this as a "lethal combination". "They have a very bad effect on the skin and make it thinner and more prone to disorders. It can cause acne, and could also have the reverse effect and turn the skin black," she warned. "The tissue becomes very delicate and can be damaged even if it is scratched."

The two main bleaching agents in the creams are ammonia and hydrogen peroxide. The ammonia can cause irritation and, according to skin specialists, this is what causes most of the reactions. Mild irritation results in redness. If it becomes worse, the skin can blister and burn. "The burn is usually superficial, but it can go deeper if you leave the cream on for too long," Zaheer said.

The dermatologist cited an example of a patient whose skin was ulcerated and prone to eczema, resulting in the face being covered in marks and blacks spots. "There have been patients whom I have referred to the plastic surgery department because the burns are so bad," she said.

Asked what advice she would give women to encourage them not to use the creams, she replied: "We know that women will use these creams regardless of the advice we give them. But what we do say is that they should not use them when consuming other medication."

Skin-whitening lotions contain chemicals, and are usually derivatives of a substance called phenol and must be used in conjunction with a sun block. Paradoxically, however, they can cause the skin to darken. "I have seen many allergic reactions to this bleach, Dr Rehana Jamil, a skin specialist at Islamabad's Ali Medical Centre, told IRIN. "If your skin does turn black you must stop using it straight away and it will eventually return to its normal colour."

Jamil cited many cases of women suffering second-degree burns to the face. In one incident, a woman treated by Jamil was in excruciating pain due to blisters on her face. Following treatment, the patient's skin settled, but she returned soon after with black patches on her face. "This was the post-inflammatory affect of the pigmentation, and was very difficult to treat. It took years to heal," she added.

The skin specialist warned that excessive use of the cream could also scar for life. "You see, ammonia is corrosive, and if it goes deep enough it can burn very badly, because it eats away the skin," she said.

As the most popular beauty treatment in Pakistan, salons and chemist shops cash in on the skin-lightening craze. "We sell more than 100 tubes of skin and facial hair bleach a week," a sales assistant at Islamabad's biggest pharmacy told IRIN. "These are the most sought-after products."

"About 90 percent of my clients ask for facial hair bleach or skin bleach, but I only offer it to those who are suited to it," the owner of the Zaib beauty salon in Islamabad, Naz Anjum, told IRIN. "I always do a skin test and advise my clients to do a skin test if they are using it at home, and it should only be used once every six weeks," she added.

At the Zaib beauty salon, skin bleach is used for treating scars and for lightening pigmentation. Anjum warned that problems occurred when the solution was not mixed properly, and too much ammonia was used. She, too, told of skin-bleaching horror incidents. "A bride-to-be came to me on the eve of her wedding day. She had used this bleach, and her face had turned red and blotchy and then gone black," she said.

Every year the cosmetic industry makes millions of dollars from the sale of skin-bleaching products in Pakistan and India alone. According to Yasmin, the only way to stop women from using such creams, lotions and potions is to empower them. "We need to promote the natural look. Pakistani women need to feel more comfortable with the way they look without the make-up and without the bleach, and that can be achieved if they improve their self esteem," she stressed.


Looks like we are not alone on this one... :)
 
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Entertaining topic.

One should check with Michael Jackson to see what he used besides bleach!.
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We just call ourselves Pakistanis.

Pakistanis come in all different skin colors (brown, black, white, yellow) whereas almost all Indians are brown/black.

Theres way much more diversity in Pakistan than in India and your favorite Pakistani, Zaid Hamid, is proof of that.

The only naturally white skin people in India are the Khans and Kapoors working in Bollywood and they can trace their ancestors to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

:lol: Someone quickly tell Omar that Pakistani is not a race!! You guys are brown just like us dude.

Back to topic, the reason is a mixture of prejudice, tradition, marketing and stupidity conventional ideas of beauty. I don't know why though, i have always found dusky Indian women to be the most attractive.
 
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@ A1Kaid: Why are YOU so obsessed with fair skin... obsessed enough to have started a topic on it in a defence forum :azn:

@Omar1984: Yara, have you ever gone for genotyping? I would love to know your genealogy — *aap tau kisi bhi gene pool mein aanay kay liye tiyaar nahin :P





(*translated — you refuse to be part of any existing gene pool :P)
 
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Entertaining indeed!! My wife has already picked suntan lotion with summer approaching - says she is too pale and wants a golden tan this year!!:D

Love summer! nice and warm, chicks in shorts and tank tops..:P

I guess everyone wants to be something they are not.:rolleyes:

The blacks here use skin lightening creams too!!
 
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We just call ourselves Pakistanis.

Pakistanis come in all different skin colors (brown, black, white, yellow) whereas almost all Indians are brown/black.

Theres way much more diversity in Pakistan than in India and your favorite Pakistani, Zaid Hamid, is proof of that.

The only naturally white skin people in India are the Khans and Kapoors working in Bollywood and they can trace their ancestors to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

This is funny discussion.But since its has begun i would like put in my two cents.

Well,I can give 200% guarantee that there are more fair skined indian ppl(fair skined by pakistani standards) than Nos of socalled fair skined pakistani.How??

The answer is due to sheer size out of our entire population of 1.1Billion ppl roughly 18-25% who constitute fair skined(pakistani standards) ppl which is roughly 22-30 crore odd ppl which is more than entire population of pakistan.

If look at region wise states like indian punjab,hariyana,himachal,delhi,J & K,Rajastan and Gujarat genetically very close to general population of pakistans punjab, sindh provinces and the kashmir part.

Beside that there other north indians states like UP,Bihar,MP, whose upper casts ppl tends to be some what fairskined.If u put than in nos they would easily go few crores again due to population size.

Now for east parts like bengal,jarkhand,orissa and down south ppl who fair skined mostly tends to be Brahmins give some credence to the fact of their foreign origins of their ancestors.

All Brahmins arenot fair skined ,but 45-55% are fair skined(again pakistani standards),rest are different shades of brown.

Talking of my own case,i am a brahmin from orissa.Most ppl on our falimy are fair skined and u know what sir Zaid Hamid with glasses resembles my maternal grand father in facial appearance & skin color.I can say roughly half of oriya brahmins are fair skined like brahmins of any other state.Also remember that brahmins tends marry only in their own caste and intercaste marriage is very recent phenomena and always miniscule in over nos.


"The only naturally white skin people in India are the Khans and Kapoors working in Bollywood and they can trace their ancestors to Pakistan and Afghanistan"

How old r u kiddo??

This statement alone forced me add my opinion in to a rather trivial discussion.
 
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Bipasha Basu...:cheesy:

you stole my words buddy....,.furthur desire of a fair skin colour is one's choice,we in india give them that freedom.....so there is no reason for this bogus discussion.....
 
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^ The funny thing is that most fair skin Bollywood actors/actresses trace their ancestors outside of India and the ones who have ancestors belonging to India dont seem to have fair skin without makeup.

what a lame comment!

preity zinta
http://www.metrojoint.com/photos22/joints_43261031_12898829_63924010.jpg:

kangna ranawat

http://www.indiatarget.com/wallpapers/actresses/kangna26.jpg

Minissha Lamba

http://s.chakpak.com/se_images/32243_-1_564_none/cute-sexy-minissha-lamba-wallpaper.jpg

Prachi Desai
http://www.moviegupshup.net/data/media/2/Prachi_Desai.jpg

Are these fair skined bollywood damsels pakistanis??
 
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Khajur,

You are not being fair. You forgot to mention Aishwarya Rai

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Guys, do not need to say more, since certain pakistanies are equating fair skin as superiority. It is a shameless mentallity. The Indians are doing it because they equate it to beauty. And I say why not!!! It shows that Indians are spending disposable income on luxury item of what they perceive themself to be. All power to them.

It fits with the same senario, where Americans are tanning for the perception of beauty, if they can afford to travel to exotic beach or go to tanning salon, that equated to disposal income spent on luxury.

In a way it is showing global influences in India, and what the perception of beauty is to Indians.
 
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And madhuri dixit........and how are all kapoors with pakistani roots??.......and what is pakistani root?? Pakistanis have indian roots!! Dont be offended,but we were one before 1947.........
 
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Khajur,

You are not being fair. You forgot to mention Aishwarya Rai

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Though Aishwarya Rai is one of the most beautiful woman in the world,i dont think she is naturally "fair skined". Anway a latest research suggest that all light Green colored eyed ppl like Aishwarya Rai and Caucasian beauty angelina jolie share same single ancestor.
 
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