Why are Muslim nations behind the West and the Far East?

[Indos]

Soeharto funeral, surrounded by Susilo Bambang Yudoyono, Indonesia President during that time

Most Communist member is in exile in Buru Island. Soekarno is also put there by Soeharto.

Buru Island in Eastern Indonesia

Pulau Buru - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

id.wikipedia.org

@jamahir

 

[Sabrejet]

Where are the Irani and Turkish mullah-led space stations

Perhaps in good time. In the mean time, have a look at their Economic Complexity rankings, specially in research and technology. It's a neat little statistic that the Harvard Kennedy School came up with a while back.

Forget the Shia in Indonesia

Yeah about that, I mixed Indonesia and Malaysia. Mea culpa.

Speaking of which, Malaysia has respectable EC scores too. They also have a promising semi conductor industry while persecuting shias at the state level.

And it was the Deobandi types of then who ended the Islamic Golden Age.

Realistically, it was Hulaku Khan who brought it to a rather unceremonious end. Mongols have tended to do that.

 

[MMM-E]

No one speaks Turkish in India or Pakistan. There are small Turkic communities in Afghanistan and Iran. Mughal cannot be called Turkish empire. The Turkics were slave dynasties and the empire was Hindustani.

So funny

Turk = ruler
and Turkic Dynasty founded and ruled the Mughal Empire on the Indian subcontinent, mainly corresponding to the modern countries of India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh

IRAN was ruled by Turkic Dynasties between 960s and 1925

Ottoman Empire ( Turks ) also ruled Greece , Bulgaria , Romania , Egypt , Libya , Iraq , Syria , Arabian Peninsula and other 44 countries for centuries

but nobody speak Turkish in Greece , Bulgaria , Romania , Egypt , Libya , etc
The Turks never imposed language and did not apply a policy of assimilation.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Are you denying they actually said that?

The Saudi Grand Mufti supposedly said that in 1993.

Zakir Naik often says all kinds of weird things.

Islam is not a religion led by priests. There is no priest [or mullah] class in genuine Islam. People use the word mullah often in a derogatory way. However, multitudes of people entered into the religion from other religions bringing old habits with them.

 

[Foinikas]

Islam is not a religion led by priests. There is no priest [or mullah] class in genuine Islam. People use the word mullah often in a derogatory way. However, multitudes of people entered into the religion from other religions bringing old habits with them.

And?

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

And?

And, thanks to God, for majority of Muslims there is generally no blind following of Mullahs or clergy. Their following is social/cultural. This may not be the case in sects such as Shiaism which seems to have a formal divine role for the clergy. Catholics and Orthodox Christianity are similar.

 

[MMM-E]

"Highly successful multi-processor CPU card" what is the processor used in the card ? Where on the internet may I find the design specifications and innovations of this processor ?

Turkiye itselff design semiconductor material and microprocessor

The CAKIL microprocessor was developed by designer engineers at TÜBİTAK in Turkiye , but was produced in Malaysia

The new facility to start design and production microprocessor at 65 nanometers

Turkiye is preparing to go to the next league in chip production, which has gained importance especially due to the global crisis experienced during the coronavirus period

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turkey Posts English

turkey.postsen.com

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

So funny

Turk = ruler
and Turkic Dynasty founded and ruled the Mughal Empire on the Indian subcontinent, mainly corresponding to the modern countries of India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh

IRAN was ruled by Turkic Dynasties between 960s and 1925

Ottoman Empire ( Turks ) also ruled Greece , Bulgaria , Romania , Egypt , Libya , Iraq , Syria , Arabian Peninsula and other 44 countries for centuries

but nobody speak Turkish in Greece , Bulgaria , Romania , Egypt , Libya , etc
The Turks never imposed language and did not apply a policy of assimilation.

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If they imposed Turkish language, they wouldn't be able to rule. Many were great soldiers and rulers, but they cannot be compared to the British who had nation-state backing of Britain. A true British Empire.

 

[Indos]

And?

Surah At-Tawbah - 31 - Quran.com

They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah, even though they were commanded to worship none bu...

quran.com

 

[Foinikas]

And, thanks to God, for majority of Muslims there is generally no blind following of Mullahs or clergy. Their following is social/cultural. This may not be the case in sects such as Shiaism which seems to have a formal divine role for the clergy. Catholics and Orthodox Christianity are similar.

Oh you poor naive Australian.

There are so many cases of muslims gathering around certain clerics in modern Sunni Islam.

 

[MMM-E]

If they imposed Turkish language, they wouldn't be able to rule. Many were great soldiers and rulers, but they cannot be compared to the British who had nation-state backing of Britain. A true British Empire.

in the 16th-17th-18th centuries
Turks would be able to kill all of you to impose Turkish language and nobody could stop it

but Turks are muslim and The Turks never imposed Turkish language and did not apply a policy of assimilation

British , French even Russians killed people to impose their languages
( Africa or India or Central Asia )

3 Turkic Empires Ottoman, Safavid and Mughal Empires in the 16th-17th-18th centuries

imagine , 3 Turkic Empires Ottoman, Safavid and Mughal Empires together attack on Europe....whole Europe would be ruled by the Turks

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye is muslim Country but not behind in technology


Turkiye is one of the 10 countries that produce communications and Observation Satellites in the World

Turkiye is among the few countries that produce sub-meter space Camera
even Turkiye exported sub-meter space Camera to Pakistan

 

[R2D2]

I have some experience with westerners. They wake up early in the morning and are very hard working. That is the main difference. With hard work comes honesty as you don't need to cheat. Our people are not hard working. Strategies can be developed for progress but the basic malaise is not working hard.

 

[lightning F57]

And it was the Deobandi types of then who ended the Islamic Golden Age.

How could that be true when deobandi was established in 19th century. I'm talking about something around 1000 years before. The Islamic golden age came to an end due to infighting and the Mongols in the east.

 

[Foinikas]

in the 16th-17th-18th centuries
Turks would be able to kill all of you to impose Turkish language and nobody could stop it

Where? Indian Subcontinent? The world?