Why are Muslim nations behind the West and the Far East?

[Muji.Iqbal]

If you look towards the West like USA, France, UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Spain,

and when you look at the Far East countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore why are we are behind in science and technology?

An intellectual asked why? Because we are not well educated in the hard sciences and social sciences and the academic disciplines.

How many undergraduates, associate degrees, master degrees, and college diplomas graduates do Muslim majority countries produce?

To bridge the gap, we need to learn industrialization, how to improve governance, how to improve the economy, manufacturing techniques, improve standard of living,
improve the reputation of our countries, and agricultural output of our countries.

People are invited to give their views. We are looking for constructive criticism, and not insults.

Regards.

 

[Rollno21]

DO you think you or your religion has the toletance to listen to truth.

 

[renhai]

emmm. I don't know about other countries. This is Chinese school.

“A savage physique, a civilized spirit”.

 

[ReasonableStar75]

My view: You cannot put all the muslim countries on the same basket. Iran is the example of a muslim country developed and concerned for scientifical research, also Turkey have some development and want to be strong...

Not all muslim states are doing bad. Arabs have bad luck in the history, they don t concern by scientifical things and military technologies, and suffer because Israeli wars and US stand for Israel... being weak in this context make them suffer for years.... it does not happen to Iran or even Turkey.

You don t put all muslims in the same basket.

 

[Indos]

 

[Battlion25]

This poster is an Indian... Be warned all his posts are crap and swear he is an Indian multinicker..

There is

Turkey
Indonesia
Malaysia
Algeria
UAE
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Bahrain
Kuwait
Oman
Brunei
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan

If you tell me these countries aren't developed you have an issue.. To be fairly honest the countries with the most insane infras are muslim countries.. There are over 50+ muslim countries hence some are wealthy and others middling while others poor.. Example Vietnam and North Korea are poor in the far east so is Philippines and in Europe the whole east european countries are poor..

You can't generalize

 

[game]

Till 1970s most of the Middle East countries are tribal and nomadic societies ..The discovery of oil made richer
Iran ,Iraq,Syria and Egypt etc have a rich culture,literature and heritage
Iran still has some of the worlds best universities and education system.They even made their own covid vaccine with all sanctions and bans..They have strong defense industry too

 

[Chopchop]

What is important for person?
It depends on person himself.
If he wants find happiness with money than look and follow west Or go there. but if you want find real happiness , live and help your own peoples in your own country.
I thinking, The person who can't find happiness at home is the most unfortunate . Running away to others home is not going to give happiness.

 

[Indos]

Japan went on Meiji Restoration and never been colonized by Western nation

South Korea and Taiwan get helped from both USA and Japan.

China is also relatively free countries, only some portion get invaded by Japanese in very short period of time.

Singapore is already quite developed under British rule. It is not small fishing village like some people on the island try to fool you

All Muslim countries, except Turkey, were under Western nations colinization for hundred of years

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[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Not know about other countries but problem with Pakistan is the export of our national cream to EU/US for some 20-30B $ remittances
Our people turn into great scientists in well nurtured scientific environment of US/EU.
This means that we just need to give them this environment at home and Pakistan will turn into at least a great industrial power of Asian region if not of world

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

DO you think you or your religion has the toletance to listen to truth.

As a Muslim, yes we a ready to take constructive criticism. But if you are here to mock us, then be prepared to face our wrath as well.

 

[Drexluddin Khan Spiveyzai]

DO you think you or your religion has the toletance to listen to truth.

@Joe Shearer , sir, I know you are of the view that there is a sizeable proportion of sensible people in India, as opposed to the more vocal, intellectually struggling crowd that's become the face of India in recent years.

I like to think you are right. However, I have noticed it's a theme with many Indian members here to correlate religion with development, a la "Islamic countries are under-developed because of too much Islam". "India's economic growth and international prestige skyrocketed because of the unapologetically Hindu administration of Modi Jee".

How prevalent, in your opinion, is this malaise amongst your compatriots?

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

This poster is an Indian... Be warned all his posts are crap and swear he is an Indian multinicker..

There is

Turkey
Indonesia
Malaysia
Algeria
UAE
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Bahrain
Kuwait
Oman
Brunei
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan

If you tell me these countries aren't developed you have an issue.. To be fairly honest the countries with the most insane infras are muslim countries.. There are over 50+ muslim countries hence some are wealthy and others middling while others poor.. Example Vietnam and North Korea are poor in the far east so is Philippines and in Europe the whole east european countries are poor..

You can't generalize

I am a Pakistani, you moron and I am an Islamist as well.

This poster is an Indian... Be warned all his posts are crap and swear he is an Indian multinicker..

There is

Turkey
Indonesia
Malaysia
Algeria
UAE
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Bahrain
Kuwait
Oman
Brunei
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan

If you tell me these countries aren't developed you have an issue.. To be fairly honest the countries with the most insane infras are muslim countries.. There are over 50+ muslim countries hence some are wealthy and others middling while others poor.. Example Vietnam and North Korea are poor in the far east so is Philippines and in Europe the whole east european countries are poor..

You can't generalize

I meant when compared to USA, or when compared to China and Japan. Watch your mouth before you call others Indian.

I am not an Indiot.

Not know about other countries but problem with Pakistan is the export of our national cream to EU/US for some 20-30B $ remittances
Our people turn into great scientists in well nurtured scientific environment of US/EU.
This means that we just need to give them this environment at home and Pakistan will turn into at least a great industrial power of Asian region if not of world

I want Pakistan to be like China or Japan economically.

Unfortunately our imports exceeds our export, like lol. That is according to wikipedia.

 

[jamahir]

If you look towards the West like USA, France, UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Spain,

and when you look at the Far East countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore why are we are behind in science and technology?

An intellectual asked why? Because we are not well educated in the hard sciences and social sciences and the academic disciplines.

How many undergraduates, associate degrees, master degrees, and college diplomas graduates do Muslim majority countries produce?

To bridge the gap, we need to learn industrialization, how to improve governance, how to improve the economy, manufacturing techniques, improve standard of living,
improve the reputation of our countries, and agricultural output of our countries.

People are invited to give their views.

Regards.

If you are not trolling this time then the answer is condensed in this :

My view: You cannot put all the muslim countries on the same basket. Iran is the example of a muslim country developed and concerned for scientifical research, also Turkey have some development and want to be strong...

So where are the space stations of Iran and Turkey ? Are they in stealth, flying in radio-silence too 1000 kms above sea level ?

1. What is STEM ?

2. Schooling degrees don't describe the intelligence of an individual if he or she has them or doesn't. Consequently, there's no point judging the capability of a country in context of number of schooling degrees. This also means that "So and so country has produced 60,000 papers in the last five years" is meaningless.

This poster is an Indian... Be warned all his posts are crap and swear he is an Indian multinicker..

The OPer is the new account of MultaniGuy who is supposedly a Pakistani. However, you are a multi-nicker, Mr. @Titanium100.

If you tell me these countries aren't developed you have an issue

I have an issue. How would you describe in simple words a "developed country" ?

DO you think you or your religion has the toletance to listen to truth.

It has, hence the past existence of the Islamic Golden Age whose fruits you and I too enjoy in form of the computer ( read about Ismail al-Jazari ) and various scientific theories ( like the theory of Evolution thought up by Al Jahiz a thousand years before Darwin ).

 

[fitpOsitive]

DO you think you or your religion has the toletance to listen to truth.

I knew some Einstein will come out with such opinion.

If you look towards the West like USA, France, UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Spain,

and when you look at the Far East countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore why are we are behind in science and technology?

An intellectual asked why? Because we are not well educated in the hard sciences and social sciences and the academic disciplines.

How many undergraduates, associate degrees, master degrees, and college diplomas graduates do Muslim majority countries produce?

To bridge the gap, we need to learn industrialization, how to improve governance, how to improve the economy, manufacturing techniques, improve standard of living,
improve the reputation of our countries, and agricultural output of our countries.

People are invited to give their views. We are looking for constructive criticism, and not insults.

Regards.

One word: the banking system. Our money is not ours, and our assets are not ours. Petroleum is ours, but we can't keep the money after srlling it. Gold is ours, but we don't fix the gold prices.

That's the thing. Islam has to fight a big war in order to take back the control of banking system.