Why are Muslim nations behind the West and the Far East?

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No. It was Hindustani empire, not Turkish. Turks were slave dynasty. There was exodus of Turks I think from the border with China, they were not acting on behalf of their own nation-state. The following makes it clear.

Your Source : Sunil Kumar .... You are so pathetic


TURKS = ruler and great warrior

Whole world knows that Mughal Empire was an early-modern Turkic Muslim Empire which controlled much of South Asia ( present India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ) between the 16th and 19th centuries

And Uzbek Turk origin BABUR was the founder of the Mughal Empire


3 Turkic Empires Ottoman ,Safavid and Mughal which ruled present day India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ,Iran,Turkiye,Iraq,Syria,Caucasus,Mecca-Medina-Egypt,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Israel,Jordan,Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania and all Balkans

 

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Your Source : Sunil Kumar .... You are so pathetic


TURKS = ruler and great warrior

Whole world knows that Mughal Empire was an early-modern Turkic Muslim Empire which controlled much of South Asia ( present India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ) between the 16th and 19th centuries

And Uzbek Turk origin BABUR was the founder of the Mughal Empire


3 Turkic Empires Ottoman ,Safavid and Mughal which ruled present day India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ,Iran,Turkiye,Iraq,Syria,Caucasus,Mecca-Medina-Egypt,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Israel,Jordan,Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania and all Balkans

There are western researchers and authors in the reference list, as well. Hindustani Empire has its own precedence and tradition since ancient times, based on Hindustan's original ruling caste (that ended with Islam). Look up map of ancient Maurya Empire.

The link explains why Turks were valued - for their military ability. In those days, there was a demand for their skill and strength. They were individuals who were not acting on behalf of any Turkish empire. They were indentured employees, those days this was called slave.

They had some influence, obviously, however, we don't get our religiosity from them. Take the word Quran, for example. We say it with Qaf. Turks I have noticed pronounce it with K. So, we don't pronounce the way Turks do.

I understand you have pride in Turks, but Turkish influence on India was not as an Empire, but as a people who became Indian. They helped defend India from Mongols. There were lots of people behind that made it a success.

 

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There are western researchers and authors in the reference list, as well.

Only 2 Sunil Kumar and Peter Jackson who are nothing


Turks ruled India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ,Iran,Iraq,Syria,Caucasus,Mecca-Medina-Egypt,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Israel,Jordan,Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania and all Balkans for centuries

They helped defend India from Mongols.

Not helped but saved India from Mongols ....even Chinese could not stop Mongols
only Turkic Armies stoped Mongols

Turkic origin BAIBARS KHAN led the vanguard of the Turkic MAMLUK forces of Egypt at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260 which marked the first substantial defeat of the Mongol army and is considered a turning point in history


Great warrior TURK

-- 6.000 km Great wall of China to stop the great warrior Turks
-- North of China was ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- India was ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- Iran was ruled by the Turks between 960s and 1925
-- Anatolia was conquered by the Turks in 1071
-- Iraq,Syria,Egypt was ruled by the Turks for over 800 years
-- Roman Empire was destroyed by Turk-Hun and Germans
-- Byzantine Empire was destroyed by Turks
-- N.Africa including Libya , Algeria , Tunis were ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania,Hungary and all Balkans were ruled by the Turks for centuries

-- and the Turks beat Crusaders ( British+French+Germans) in CRUSADES

TURK = WARRIOR with the best military history in the world

 

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Only 2 Sunil Kumar and Peter Jackson who are nothing


Turks ruled India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ,Iran,Iraq,Syria,Caucasus,Mecca-Medina-Egypt,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Israel,Jordan,Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania and all Balkans for centuries




Not helped but saved India from Mongols ....even Chinese could not stop Mongols
only Turkic Armies stoped Mongols

Turkic origin BAIBARS KHAN led the vanguard of the Turkic MAMLUK forces of Egypt at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260 which marked the first substantial defeat of the Mongol army and is considered a turning point in history


Great warrior TURK

-- 6.000 km Great wall of China to stop the great warrior Turks
-- North of China was ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- India was ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- Iran was ruled by the Turks between 960s and 1925
-- Anatolia was conquered by the Turks in 1071
-- Iraq,Syria,Egypt was ruled by the Turks for over 800 years
-- Roman Empire was destroyed by Turk-Hun and Germans
-- Byzantine Empire was destroyed by Turks
-- N.Africa including Libya , Algeria , Tunis were ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania,Hungary and all Balkans were ruled by the Turks for centuries

-- and the Turks beat Crusaders ( British+French+Germans) in CRUSADES

TURK = WARRIOR with the best military history in the world

Turks got defeated by Mongols in Central Asia, their area conquered and controlled by Mongols. The only country which comprehensively crushed Mongol mighty force was India. So, there were other factors. It was not only Turks doing the fighting, plus you need brain power and money as well.

There are several good videos of Delhi sultanate and Mongols now. This was not an issue before, but it became one only because of 20th century nationalisms which is a nasty problem.

 

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Turkiye is pride of 1.8 billion Islamic World


5th gen Fighter Jet ... ( USA , China , Russia , Turkiye , S.Korea )
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Next gen Traning and light attack Jet ... ( USA , Turkiye , S.Korea , China , Russia , Italy )
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Next gen Trainer Aircraft

Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet .. ( only USA and Turkiye in the World )
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Flyingwing stealth UCAV .. ( USA , UK , France , Turkiye , China , Russia , S.Korea )
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Turkish AKINCI UCAV is the best turboprob engined UCAV in the World with superior fire power
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10+ tons heavy Attack Helicopter .. ( only USA , Russia and Turkiye in the World )

USA : AH-64
Turkiye : T-929
Russia : KA-52 and MI-28
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Utility Helicopters with turboshaft Engine
( only USA , Russia , China , UK , France , Turkiye )
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Medium-High altitude Air Defense Systems ..
( only USA , Russia , China , Turkiye , Israel , France-Italy , Iran )
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BVR air to air Missile ..
( only USA , Russia , China , Turkiye , Israel , France , Japan , India )
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Radar Electronic Warfare System .. ( USA , Russia , Turkiye , Israel )
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GaN based early warning AESA Radar
( USA , Israel , Turkiye , France , Italy , Sweden , China , India )
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Next gen Targeting and Jamming Pods ..
( USA , Israel , Turkiye , France , Russia , China )
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Turkiye is one of the 10 countries that produce communications and Observation Satellites in the World

Turkiye is among the few countries that produce sub-meter space Camera
even Turkiye exported sub-meter space Camera to Pakistan

-- liquid-propellant rocket engine technology for space trials
-- National and unique hybrid Rocket Engines for the Moon mission
( The world's most advanced hybrid rocket motor technology which comprises oxidizing liquid and solid fuels and transferred as an innovative technology )

Next gen HELMET for Attack Helicopters and Fighter Jets
( USA , Israel , Turkiye , France , UK , China )
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If your Country has democracy , good leader , educated people , money , science and technology .., then you can become one of top countries in the world in aviation industry

Turkey got all that due to secularism.

 

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Turkey got all that due to secularism.

Nah
Secular puppets blocked Turkish Aviation Industry and all technology projects in 1940s


Thanks to president ERDOGAN who supported Turkish Defense Industry in the last 20 years
and Turkish military projects have risen to 750 from 62 between 2002 and 2023


Secular CHP only build donkey statue .. nothing else
American puppets are the biggest enemies to Turkiye and Turkish People

 

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Turks got defeated by Mongols in Central Asia, their area conquered and controlled by Mongols. The only country which comprehensively crushed Mongol mighty force was India. So, there were other factors. It was not only Turks doing the fighting, plus you need brain power and money as well.

There are several good videos of Delhi sultanate and Mongols now. This was not an issue before, but it became one only because of 20th century nationalisms which is a nasty problem.

And it was the Turks who defeated the Mongols in Ain Jalat and north India/Pakistan.

You sound more and more like a Hindu in disguise or a weird form of Indian Muslim whose beliefs are a mixture of Hinduism and Islam.

 

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Nah
Secular puppets blocked Turkish Aviation Industry and all technology projects in 1940s


Thanks to president ERDOGAN who supported Turkish Defense Industry in the last 20 years
and Turkish military projects have risen to 750 from 62 between 2002 and 2023


Secular CHP only build donkey statue .. nothing else

As far as I know Turkish religious right like Erdogan and his supporters are more secular than average Muslims in other Muslim countries.
This has allowed Turks to focus on science and technology and shed off obsolete beliefs that other Muslims can't.

 

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Only 2 Sunil Kumar and Peter Jackson who are nothing


Turks ruled India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ,Iran,Iraq,Syria,Caucasus,Mecca-Medina-Egypt,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Israel,Jordan,Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania and all Balkans for centuries




Not helped but saved India from Mongols ....even Chinese could not stop Mongols
only Turkic Armies stoped Mongols

Turkic origin BAIBARS KHAN led the vanguard of the Turkic MAMLUK forces of Egypt at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260 which marked the first substantial defeat of the Mongol army and is considered a turning point in history


Great warrior TURK

-- 6.000 km Great wall of China to stop the great warrior Turks
-- North of China was ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- India was ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- Iran was ruled by the Turks between 960s and 1925
-- Anatolia was conquered by the Turks in 1071
-- Iraq,Syria,Egypt was ruled by the Turks for over 800 years
-- Roman Empire was destroyed by Turk-Hun and Germans
-- Byzantine Empire was destroyed by Turks
-- N.Africa including Libya , Algeria , Tunis were ruled by the Turks for centuries
-- Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania,Hungary and all Balkans were ruled by the Turks for centuries

-- and the Turks beat Crusaders ( British+French+Germans) in CRUSADES

TURK = WARRIOR with the best military history in the world

I’m fully on board with what you’re saying. That guy is an Indian member with dubious Muslim credentials. In my previous interactions with him, he says really outrageous stuff.

 

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If you look towards the West like USA, France, UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Spain,

and when you look at the Far East countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore why are we are behind in science and technology?

An intellectual asked why? Because we are not well educated in the hard sciences and social sciences and the academic disciplines.

How many undergraduates, associate degrees, master degrees, and college diplomas graduates do Muslim majority countries produce?

To bridge the gap, we need to learn industrialization, how to improve governance, how to improve the economy, manufacturing techniques, improve standard of living,
improve the reputation of our countries, and agricultural output of our countries.

People are invited to give their views. We are looking for constructive criticism, and not insults.

Regards.

Think deeper

DO you think you or your religion has the toletance to listen to truth.

It has almost nothing to do with religion.

 

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Turks ruled India,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh ,Iran,Iraq,Syria,Caucasus,Mecca-Medina-Egypt,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Israel,Jordan,Greece,Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania and all Balkans for centuries

Certified "we wuzz kangz" moment

 

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And it was the Turks who defeated the Mongols in Ain Jalat and north India/Pakistan.

You sound more and more like a Hindu in disguise or a weird form of Indian Muslim whose beliefs are a mixture of Hinduism and Islam.

The point is they had strong civilizational base in India and Egypt. Pakistan was devastated by the Mongols and much of the world, including areas native to Turks. And, I don't think the Egyptians faced the onslaught Delhi sultanate did. I am Indian who is Muslim [which has to do with worship of Allah], nothing to do with worshiping any race. Your way of thinking is bizarre to me. I don't know where you get your weird ideology from. India has sent space missions to Mars and Moon. Turkey is far from that. Pakistan cannot even think of it. Other Turkic republics like Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are nothing. Comparing capabilities of countries is not like a cricket match. India is huge.

 

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because of mullahs. next question?

No, not because of Mullahs. Because we are not well educated like the Japanese for example.

 

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India has sent space missions to Mars and Moon. Turkey is far from that. Pakistan cannot even think of it. Other Turkic republics like Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are nothing. Comparing capabilities of countries is not like a cricket match. India is huge.

India is backward Country to compare with Turkiye , Kazakhstan , Turkmenistan

HDI Index ( Human development index )
Turkiye : 838 ... ( Istanbul 867 )
Kazakhstan 811
India : 633

And Turkiye develops everything for Turkic States Organization which has tens of trillions of Dollars of Natural Gas , Oil , Thorium , Boron , Uranium , Gold reserves

only a few example .... India is far from that

5th gen Fighter Jet ... ( USA , China , Russia , Turkiye , S.Korea )
also Turkiye develops 10.000 lbs and 35.000 lbs turbofan Engines for manned and unmanned Fighter Jets

Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet .. ( only USA and Turkiye in the World )

Flyingwing stealth UCAV .. ( USA , UK , France , Turkiye , China , Russia , S.Korea )

Turkiye has laid out its vision for the future of tactical air combat

Multi-layered distributed team of diverse unmanned aircraft working in concert with manned types

TF-23 , ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA
that distributed team is operating with each one with their own unique roles

 

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India has sent space missions to Mars and Moon. Turkey is far from that. Pakistan cannot even think of it.

Turkiye has its own Space agenda 2017-2028

ROKETSAN
DELTA V Space Technologies

ROKETSAN Space Program

Roketsan TPO-1 : 120 km altitude in 2017
Roketsan TPO-2 : 130 km altitude in 2018
Roketsan SRO-1 : 136 km altitude in 2020

Roketsan SR-1 : 100 kg payload and 300 km altitude in 2023
Roketsan SIMSEK-1 SLV: 400 kg payload and 550 km altitude in 2027
Roketsan SIMSEK-2 SLV: 1.500 kg payload and 550 km altitude in 2028

Critical systems and stages have been verified
-- Solid-Propellant Rocket Motor with Thrust Vector-Control feature
-- Liquid-Propellant Rocket Engine
-- Aerodynamic hybrid control driven by Thrust Vector Control, and electromechanically controlled propulsion
-- Multiple firings in space by the Liquid-Propellant Rocket Engine
-- Precise orientation control in space environment
-- Inertial Precision Navigation based on national sensors and a national Global Positioning System Receiver
-- Capsule detachment in space
-- Various structural and chemical materials and advanced processing techniques


Hypersonic SR1-0 Rocket to carry 100 kg payload to 300 km altitude in 2023

Length : 15 m
Diameter : 1.35 m

Moon Research Program (AYAP-1 )

Turkiye has its own space program to reach the Moon by 2023-2024
Hard landing : 2023-2024
Soft landing : 2028

DeltaV Space Technologies has developed the hybrid propulsion system that will carry the spacecraft developed by TÜBİTAK Space to the Moon


After tests in earth orbit, DeltaV's hybrid engine will fire to enter lunar orbit
SORS is a probe rocket system with hybrid fuel engine technology that will be used primarily for the 2023-2024 hard landing on the Moon.

Hypersonic SORS was fired with liquid oxidizer and solid paraffin, had vertical firing tests in 2021. ( 300 km altitude )

Delta-V belongs to Turkiye and 100% Turkish technology
The World’s first sounding rocket launch using a paraffin/liquid oxygen propellant pair

Source and more info

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