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Who is the greatest Muslim ruler of the subcontinent and why?

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to me I only know Saladin```:undecided:

My friend, there is so much to learn. Islamic history is replete with great heroes and legendary personalities.

When you get some time, look up these personalities:

Khalid bin Walid (undefeated early Muslim commander who defeated Muslims at Uhud when he was pagan,)

Tariq bin Ziyad (brilliant conqueror of Spain,)

Alparslan (Hero of Seljuk Turks and first settler of Anatolia after Manzikert/Malazgirt,)

Mehmet el Fatih (conqueror of Istanbul,)

Baybars (red-bearded Slavic Mameluk hero who first defeated the Mongols,)

Babur (founder of Mughal dynasty,)

Aurangzeb (pious Muslim king who consolidated Mughal power,)

Tipu Sultan (king of Mysore famous for defeating the British many times)

Mahmud e Ghazni (Afghan ruler who conquered Hindustan and also famous for his friend and wazir Ayyaz of which there are many stories)

Manas/Манас (Kyrgyz hero who fought the Oirats)

Birkai/Berke Khan (Mongol Muslim hero from the Golden Horde/ Altan ordu who defeated the Mongolian Il-Khan dynasty and eventually caused the conversion of Mongols to Islam)

There are many many more.
 
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My friend, there is so much to learn. Islamic history is replete with great heroes and legendary personalities.

When you get some time, look up these personalities:

Khalid bin Walid (undefeated early Muslim commander who defeated Muslims at Uhud when he was pagan,)

Tariq bin Ziyad (brilliant conqueror of Spain,)

Alparslan (Hero of Seljuk Turks and first settler of Anatolia after Manzikert/Malazgirt,)

Mehmet el Fatih (conqueror of Istanbul,)

Baybars (red-bearded Slavic Mameluk hero who first defeated the Mongols,)

Babur (founder of Mughal dynasty,)

Aurangzeb (pious Muslim king who consolidated Mughal power,)

Tipu Sultan (king of Mysore famous for defeating the British many times)

Mahmud e Ghazni (Afghan ruler who conquered Hindustan and also famous for his friend and wazir Ayyaz of which there are many stories)

Manas/Манас (Kyrgyz hero who fought the Oirats)

Birkai/Berke Khan (Mongol Muslim hero from the Golden Horde/ Altan ordu who defeated the Mongolian Il-Khan dynasty and eventually caused the conversion of Mongols to Islam)

There are many many more.
Let me remind you muslims started many chaos we are witnessing in today.
Islam started the concept of slavery. Slavery was not a pre Islamic practice but was started by the muslims.

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As per wikipedia it was muslims who introduced slavery in India so it is quite safe to say that there were no slavery before islam came and muslims were the one who introduced slavery

My friend, there is so much to learn. Islamic history is replete with great heroes and legendary personalities.

When you get some time, look up these personalities:

Khalid bin Walid (undefeated early Muslim commander who defeated Muslims at Uhud when he was pagan,)

Tariq bin Ziyad (brilliant conqueror of Spain,)

Alparslan (Hero of Seljuk Turks and first settler of Anatolia after Manzikert/Malazgirt,)

Mehmet el Fatih (conqueror of Istanbul,)

Baybars (red-bearded Slavic Mameluk hero who first defeated the Mongols,)

Babur (founder of Mughal dynasty,)

Aurangzeb (pious Muslim king who consolidated Mughal power,)

Tipu Sultan (king of Mysore famous for defeating the British many times)

Mahmud e Ghazni (Afghan ruler who conquered Hindustan and also famous for his friend and wazir Ayyaz of which there are many stories)

Manas/Манас (Kyrgyz hero who fought the Oirats)

Birkai/Berke Khan (Mongol Muslim hero from the Golden Horde/ Altan ordu who defeated the Mongolian Il-Khan dynasty and eventually caused the conversion of Mongols to Islam)

There are many many more.
Also Islam couldnt abolish slavery. It was abolished by the British in the 19th century. Again it has been proved that British law is the best law in this entire world.
 
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Let me remind you muslims started many chaos we are witnessing in today.
Islam started the concept of slavery. Slavery was not a pre Islamic practice but was started by the muslims.

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As per wikipedia it was muslims who introduced slavery in India so it is quite safe to say that there were no slavery before islam came and muslims were the one who introduced slavery

That is true.

India was the only place in the world that did not have slavery. It was the muslims who brought it into India.

Megasthenes when in arrived in India with Alexander, states that a law, prescribed by ancient Indian philosophers, bans slavery. The law treats everyone equally, but allows the property to be unevenly distributed.

Also Islam couldnt abolish slavery. It was abolished by the British in the 19th century. Again it has been proved that British law is the best law in this entire world.

Again true. But know this that the British themselves were Slave traders.

When they were forced to stop slavery, they replaced direct slavery with indirect slavery i.e. Bonded Laborer. It was slavery via debt bondage and this british introduced evil exist in India and pakistan even today.

This "human bondage" was the primary source of labour for the british empire and that is why you find Indians in Fiji, South Africa, Mauritius, and the Caribbean. Its was just a more sophisticated form of slavery and exploitation.
 
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Let me remind you muslims started many chaos we are witnessing in today.
Islam started the concept of slavery. Slavery was not a pre Islamic practice but was started by the muslims.

View attachment 520484

As per wikipedia it was muslims who introduced slavery in India so it is quite safe to say that there were no slavery before islam came and muslims were the one who introduced slavery


Also Islam couldnt abolish slavery. It was abolished by the British in the 19th century. Again it has been proved that British law is the best law in this entire world.

It is a well known fact that Arabs sold Africans to Americans as slaves.

That is true.

India was the only place in the world that did not have slavery. It was the muslims who brought it into India.

Megasthenes when in arrived in India with Alexander, states that a law, prescribed by ancient Indian philosophers, bans slavery. The law treats everyone equally, but allows the property to be unevenly distributed.



Again true. But know this that the British themselves were Slave traders.

When they were forced to stop slavery, they replaced direct slavery with indirect slavery i.e. Bonded Laborer. It was slavery via debt bondage and this british introduced evil exist in India and pakistan even today.

This "human bondage" was the primary source of labour for the british empire and that is why you find Indians in Fiji, South Africa, Mauritius, and the Caribbean. Its was just a more sophisticated form of slavery and exploitation.

Fortunately, Subcontinent had enough labor so British did not had to import African slaves. In fact British took Indian labor to their other colonies in Asia, Africa and Americas as Indian labor were more efficient.
 
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Fortunately, Subcontinent had enough labor so British did not had to import African slaves. In fact British took Indian labor to their other colonies in Asia, Africa and Americas as Indian labor were more efficient.

Before the law banning slavery, British used to export Indian slaves to Africa and other nations.

Primarily from Bengal and then some from Kerala.

Indian labour were not more efficient, they were more manageable due to their civilized and non aggressive nature.
 
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Before the law banning slavery, British used to export Indian slaves to Africa and other nations.

Primarily from Bengal and then some from Kerala.

Indian labour were not more efficient, they were more manageable due to their civilized and non aggressive nature.

Non-aggressive = More efficient :D

Indians know how to negotiate. It is in our DNA.
 
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Non-aggressive = More efficient :D

Indians know how to negotiate. It is in our DNA.

Americans did the same thing in china. Chinese bonded labour were sent to the US to build railway lines. THat is why you find so many "little china" in the US.
 
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Slave Dynasty protected India from the Mongol invasions. Mongols invaded half of the world but not India.

This was in part due to the same agile war tactics that Turks had to their Mongol cousins.:D
And Mongols were predominately followers of Buddhism

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Akbar is considered Great by British propagandist. Akbar was proud to trace his timurid ancestory.

Tamerlane struck Europe and thus why the Bad press in most existing Literature.

Cyrus is also considered Great in Western Literature as well as Ramses.
So everything 'British' is bad according your logic? It is a fact that Timurlane was a mass murderer and gencoidal maniac. Historical texts from Persia, Central Asia and Archaelogical findings proves it and it is neither a British or indian propaganda. Please dont support a war criminal like Timurlane just because he followed the Islamic faith.
 
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