Who Is Behind Data Darbar Bombing in Pakistan?

[black_magic pk]

I would consider Arab imperialist Oligarch and their Pakistani followers to be the enemy of Pakistan. All these religious maniacs have destroyed Afghanistan and now they doing the same to Pakistan.

go back and learn some decade old history, it were the soviets and americans than, who were fighting their wars in afghanistan and who made afghanistan which it is today

it was after 9/11 when we started hearing the words of taliban in bad account, and it was the time when americans pledged musharraf to throw pakistan back in stone age if musharraf didnt get them to afghanistan and india was going to attack us in 2002..

pakistan never had any control on fata even before taliban, its a childish act by zerdari to kill innocents and these people are now joining the taliban to take revenge.

 

[black_magic pk]

did u even care to read what that wikipedia article is a all bout before u decided to open your trap... anyways... it is a chronology of terrorist attacks in pakistan... can you prove any one of the incidents mentioned in that link is false... ha.. do u even know what being matured is??

dude i just mentioned how child you are to go and check some wikipedia link, if you were little mature you would have mentioned another source, indeed you are child shoo...

 

[Old School]

go back and learn some decade old history, it were the soviets and americans than, who were fighting their wars in afghanistan and who made afghanistan which it is today

I know that you have some exposure in this field ( don't get shocked !). But do not always dismiss other people's knowledge being blind with your own knowledge. This is not the right moment for propaganda when the security of Pakistan is at stake.

 

[sparklingway]

hey sparkling.....i am thinking of mumbai attack and indian propoganda

Firstly, the title has nothing to do with the subject matter you present in your op-ed. You try to present it as if you're proving through sone evidence that India was involved in the Data Darbar bombing. As you have no proof, you didn't present any beyond innuendos. If you wanted to deal with the Mumbai attacks, tell me I'll change the title of the thread (and so should you on your blog).

Secondly, commenting on their geo-political strategies and trying to analyze them (from whatever twisted view) does not fit with the title. Trying to get attention with a conspiratorial title is cheap and lame.

How did the Mumbai attack fit into the Data Darbar bombing?

Your subject matter had nothing to do with the title. Next time try something beyond yellow journalism.

were they right? if yes then where were you?

The Federal Government is dealing with the matter and has maintained our sovereign rights and integrity. Neither have we released a Pakistani into their custody, nor do we plan to. They have presented folder after folder of evidence and our courts will take care of it. As far as any sane person sees it Ajmal Kasab is a Pakistani (not Amar Singh).

remove pakistani flag from you avatar....you smell like our neighbour.

So you have to be conspiratorial, being jingoistically national and utterly bigoted to be a Pakistani? I guess Jinnah did not stand up for these things. Neither do I have to prove my patriotic stripes to you nor do you have any right to demand others to agree with your opinion.

If you're going to somehow twist this now into redirecting a question onto me about Indian involvement in Balochistan or support to TTP, then I'll have to notify you earlier that such questions will be outside the subject matter at hand. Fake super nationals (and bigots and xenophobes) always try to question your patriotism on your understanding of the involvement of India in the whole militant fiasco. If you don't agree with their conclusions, then you're not a patriot according to them and as hatred and bigotry sells very well in the press (and generally), they try to portray themselves as the true heroes trying to maintain their "honour and integrity" when everybody else has been "sold".

Please try something better next time and also read the second quote in my signature.

 

[black_magic pk]

I know that you have some exposure in this field ( don't get shocked !). But do not always dismiss other people's knowledge being blind with your own knowledge. This is not the right moment for propaganda when the security of Pakistan is at stake.

what "propaganda", please share what you know kindly please??

 

[ambidex]

To reduce number of less radicals from Pakistan will the last thing India want.

Muslims those who believe in Sufism etc. are considered as moderates and thus key to future would be peace with India. India would never like to make them more vulnerable and prone to any radical/fanatic Ideology (this is what these attacks were supposed to do).

Indian agents must be aware that the group of people targeted at that sacred shrine are not potential/capable group to cause ethnic tensions. Yes, these attacks may weak the elected government and again India would never like to see an over adventurous army man controlling Pakistan.


@ Thread starter: If 26/11 was Indian propaganda, Indian state sponsored and union of India knows it (as RAW only reports to PM) then why India will risk resources and credibility to punish Pakistan for some thing which was of Indian origin.
Do not try to appear functionaly confused or hide behind your cowardly word crafting; tell us that 26/11 was Pakistan sponsored, more people will believe in your fantastical theory after that i.e India is punishing Pakistan (which Pakistan can not prove though).

Regards.

 

[r3alist]

it is people like this author and the ones who believe in these stories who really drag down pakistan

yes because you have pakistans interest at heart


like i said, lets go from the ground up and put the evidence together, assume nothing!!

 

[abrahams]

dude i just mentioned how child you are to go and check some wikipedia link, if you were little mature you would have mentioned another source, indeed you are child shoo...

care to show any other link which mentions terrorist attacks in pakistan in a chronological order... grown up... ha... my...

 

[r3alist]

who knows all the facts? anyone?

 

[abrahams]

yes because you have pakistans interest at heart


like i said, lets go from the ground up and put the evidence together, assume nothing!!

ha... pakistanis as such are in no way my enemies.. cos i have a few friends from pakistan during my studies in leeds, church and elsewhere.. and has even stayed with some... however some ppl especially on forums demonstrate a blind hatred towards india... and that is not right in any sense.. . it just poisons the person and the country...

when there is enough proof against your own citizens and that too in mass scale... y do u have to assume anything... it is all in front of you.. just accept the evidence at face value... and not by listening to someones else propaganda..

 

[black_magic pk]

To reduce number of less radicals from Pakistan will the last thing India want.

Muslims those who believe in Sufism etc. are considered as moderates and thus key to future would be peace with India. India would never like to make them more vulnerable and prone to any radical/fanatic Ideology (this is what these attacks were supposed to do).

Indian agents must be aware that the group of people targeted at that sacred shrine are not potential/capable group to cause ethnic tensions. Yes, these attacks may weak the elected government and again India would never like to see an over adventurous army man controlling Pakistan.


@ Thread starter: If 26/11 was Indian propaganda, Indian state sponsored and union of India knows it (as RAW only reports to PM) then why India will risk resources and credibility to punish Pakistan for some thing which was of Indian origin.
Do not try to appear functionaly confused or hide behind your cowardly word crafting; tell us that 26/11 was Pakistan sponsored, more people will believe in your fantastical theory after that i.e India is punishing Pakistan (which Pakistan can not prove though).

Regards.

india has no credibility..................

indian govt issues statements which are rants, it doesnt provide proves that hey kasab is pakistani, instead they demand some thing else, that to arrest hafeez said who is terrorist, why because indians say so, no prove, what a dumb govt and dumb country...

pakistan is a state which sponcers terrorism, prove, no proof, pakistan is a failed state, pakistan is this, pakistan that, all shameless lies and rants.

 

[r3alist]

ha... pakistanis as such are in no way my enemies.. cos i have a few friends from pakistan during my studies in leeds, church and elsewhere.. and has even stayed with some... however some ppl especially on forums demonstrate a blind hatred towards india... and that is not right in any sense.. . it just poisons the person and the country...

when there is enough proof against your own citizens and that too in mass scale... y do u have to assume anything... it is all in front of you.. just accept the evidence at face value... and not by listening to someones else propaganda..

point by point

1. individuals are rarely the enemy, the nation of pakistan as a whole still irks you, clear distinction

2. there is no proof, if there is show me it, i want to see it, so its not clear who to blame

there have been dozens of attacks against pakistan - how many have been conclusively solved? mostly some obscure video or statement is used as conclusive proof - it isn't

pakistan needs to know everything about these attackers - they rarely discover even 50%

 

[abrahams]

point by point



pakistan needs to know everything about these attackers - they rarely discover even 50%

you said it... pakistanis need to know who these attackers are and not believe in some conspiracy theories.... and i am sure after all these terrorist attacks... say more than 100+... i am sure officials would have caught at least a handful ... but where is more information about them.. y dont they make it public.. instead of keeping it under wraps... recently there was a report regarding 23000 kg of explosives... what happened after that...

most of the attacks were suicidal... and for doing suicide.. a person will either have a very desperate situation.. or else he believes it is for good... and if it is raw... how do they particularly target these desperate people.. and that too in huge numbers... am sure they do it.. because they follow a different ideology..

and regarding your first point.. pakistan as a nation very often irks me... but that was before 9/11... prior to which there were attacks in india.. and as such... muslims in india were always blamed though it was the handiworks of a few mad indians or foreigners.. and this ruptures the social fabric .. considering that there is several million muslims in india.. and their lifes are in a disarray.. due to personal gains of few individuals..... it leads to communal issues... and also other minorities like christians and others too do suffer...

post 9/11 ... the incidents went a bit down...

 

[r3alist]

you said it... pakistanis need to know who these attackers are and not believe in some conspiracy theories....

the irony of this comment is that you fail to understand blaming group x,y or z is just as much a conspiracy theory as it is to say india or the us did this, because you have no proof, just a popular narrative, again provide me with a full picture and i will shut up, anyone at all?


you guys typically come as wolves dressed in sheeps clothing, you are completely indo-centric in the way you guys dispense "advice" about pakistan

it is a form of gloating at the misery the nation is suffering

there are many many people in pakistan, the picture is complicated, you better have proof if you want to talk loud

 

[abrahams]

the irony of this comment is that you fail to understand blaming group x,y or z is just as much a conspiracy theory as it is to say india or the us did this, because you have no proof, just a popular narrative, again provide me with a full picture and i will shut up, anyone at all?


you guys typically come as wolves dressed in sheeps clothing, you are completely indo-centric in the way you guys dispense "advice" about pakistan

it is a form of gloating at the misery the nation is suffering

there are many many people in pakistan, the picture is complicated, you better have proof if you want to talk loud

what further proof do you need... check out DAWN.COM | Home | Latest News, Pakistan, World, Business, Cricket and Multimedia instead of Zaid Hamid Photography for a change and am sure u will find pretty much information...

since ur in uk... havent u seen enough of proof from the subway attack by pakistanies themselves... havent you seen demands made by msulims... mainly pakistanis... for implementing sharia law in uk... and for hells sake.. one of the MPs of pakistani orgin in UK parliment called for stoning ... ha... if these things happen outside pakistan.. what do u expect them to do in pakistan... yes so somewhere down the line there is something wrong with the ideology being spread..

it is easy to wake up a sleeping person... but not a person who pretends to be sleeping...

and yeah do u have proofs of indians coming in sheeps clothing and ends up being wolves...ha.. talk about hypocrisy..

and yeah why does only pakistan has so many defence related forums... i only know one from the indian side...