Who has the strongest Land Forces in ME?

[xenon54 out]

I agree but how can you measure the readiness of the forces .....only by actual war like Israel and Egypt land forces in 1973 war ....there was new Tactics in that war from both sides...also in Op. Desert Storm in Iraq the Egyptian land forces done well in that , for Examble using Fateh system for Opening a pathway in Minefields....Iran using numbers and waves of unarmored forces like what happened in Iraq-Irani war..... Turkey , i don't know a real fight since WW I...how can you consider other things rather than Numbers here.

Oh please, what are you trying to say? Just look at post-independece Egyptian wars, yeah Egypt had ''real'' wars but lost all of them, well at least you won agains Libya, congrats for this one though.

List of wars involving Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[NL_Turk]

Isn't the Korean war at least worth mentioning when talking about Turkey?

 

[xenon54 out]

Isn't the Korean war at least worth mentioning when talking about Turkey?

I could have posted a link but almost all of them are a coalition wars except Cyprus but our Egyptian friend doesnt even consider this one as a real war...

List of wars involving Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Amun]

Oh please, what are you trying to say? Just look at post-independece Egyptian wars, yeah Egypt had ''real'' wars but lost all of them, well at least you won agains Libya, congrats for this one though.

Please Man, we are talking about Facts not wishes....Wikipedia is not a reliable source....i'm tired telling you that Israel Never leaves an occupied territory....exception Sinai....i couldnot attach link yet....but you can read about October war....
Read man READ..!!

QUOTE="xenon54, post: 7378308, member: 147040"]I could have posted a link but almost all of them are a coalition wars except Cyprus but our Egyptian friend doesnt even consider this one as a real war...
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Wikipedia is not a reliable source....even the source you rely on....i can say WWI is the last Real combat turkey involved in alone.
As for cyprus, you tried more than once then you took over the north....but cyprus is not that state you can be proud to defead them...it is a small neutral country.
Btw see the next photos:
One for an Israeli leader surrender to an Egyptian leader.
Other for Israeli troops raising high Sadat photo beacause he accepted the cease fire.
The last one during a meeting after the war between Sadat and Def Minster of Israel. Dian ( nice tie)

 

[Kristian]

Turkey and Israel.

I voites on Turkey.

 

[James David]

1. US Army! (we are all over the place! we should be included on the poll)
2. Saudi (lots of gizmos and stuff from us)
3. Israel (never lost) @500, buddy please elaborate
4. Turkey is not in the ME for cryin out loud!!!

 

[500]

.i'm tired telling you that Israel Never leaves an occupied territory....exception Sinai....i couldnot attach link yet....but you can read about October war....

Israel left occupied territories many times (excluding Sinai 1982):

Lebanon 1949
Sinai 1949
Sinai 1956
Gaza 1957
Lebanon 1978
Lebanon 1983
West Bank and Gaza 1994
Lebanon 2000
Gaza 2005

 

[masud]

Israel left occupied territories many times (excluding Sinai 1982):

Lebanon 1949
Sinai 1949
Sinai 1956
Gaza 1957
Lebanon 1978
Lebanon 1983
West Bank and Gaza 1994
Lebanon 2000
Gaza 2005

@500
is hare in PDF any ISRAEL thread available or what is the best israily defence foram? i am interested to know about israel army and weapons more. plz help me.............

 

[madmusti]

Best Military Band from Turkey for everyones ears.

So please show me someone from an different Middle East Country.

Turkey has it´s own Place - Minor - Asia

 

[Amun]

Israel left occupied territories many times (excluding Sinai 1982):

Lebanon 1949
Sinai 1949
Sinai 1956
Gaza 1957
Lebanon 1978
Lebanon 1983
West Bank and Gaza 1994
Lebanon 2000
Gaza 2005

Lebanon still has occupied land by Israel
Gaza cut some land by Israel + blocking Sea Air and land surrounding it(occupation)
Syria still has occupied land by Israel
Sinai....the holy place of Jews ...Israel left it .

 

[Neptune]

Lebanon still has occupied land by Israel
Gaza cut some land by Israel + blocking Sea Air and land surrounding it(occupation)
Syria still has occupied land by Israel
Sinai....the holy place of Jews ...Israel left it .

As far as I know, the occupations you've mentioned are still ongoing mostly because Israel feels its border/national security threatened. I wouldn't call them invasions at all, by the situation of Israeli troops in these regions they seem more like buffer/secure zones ensuring external security not from sovereign threats but unconventional threats. I don't see a favor for Israel keeping the present day Sinai, or maybe I don't know enough about it yet.

 

[500]

Lebanon still has occupied land by Israel
Gaza cut some land by Israel + blocking Sea Air and land surrounding it(occupation)
Syria still has occupied land by Israel
Sinai....the holy place of Jews ...Israel left it .

Lebanon is not occupied at all.
Gaza is not occupied either, its blocked by sea because they fire rockets and openly state they want to destroy Israel.
Syria participated in same war with Egypt in 1973, but unlike Egypt refused to sign peace.
Sinai was returned to Egypt twice before 1973: in 1949 and 1956. Nothing really holy about it.

@500
is hare in PDF any ISRAEL thread available or what is the best israily defence foram? i am interested to know about israel army and weapons more. plz help me.............

Unfortunately there is no good dedicated IDF forum in English. Best I can recommend is this thread:

Israel Defense Forces -

TheMess Forums

There are many Israelis there from former militaryphotos forum.

Strongly NOT recommend this forum:
Israel Military Forum
Its run by IsraelSTRONK11!! kids.

There are good Israeli military forums but only in Hebrew and Russian:
http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=20
WarOnline.org | Израильский Военно-Исторический Форум

 

[Amun]

As far as I know, the occupations you've mentioned are still ongoing mostly because Israel feels its border/national security threatened. I wouldn't call them invasions at all, by the situation of Israeli troops in these regions they seem more like buffer/secure zones ensuring external security not from sovereign threats but unconventional threats. I don't see a favor for Israel keeping the present day Sinai, or maybe I don't know enough about it yet.

Still it is occupation no matter how we explain it.

Lebanon is not occupied at all.
Gaza is not occupied either, its blocked by sea because they fire rockets and openly state they want to destroy Israel.
Syria participated in same war with Egypt in 1973, but unlike Egypt refused to sign peace.
Sinai was returned to Egypt twice before 1973: in 1949 and 1956. Nothing really holy about it.


Unfortunately there is no good dedicated IDF forum in English. Best I can recommend is this thread:

Israel Defense Forces -

TheMess Forums

There are many Israelis there from former militaryphotos forum.

Strongly NOT recommend this forum:
Israel Military Forum
Its run by IsraelSTRONK11!! kids.

There are good Israeli military forums but only in Hebrew and Russian:
http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2

WarOnline.org | Израильский Военно-Исторический Форум

1949 actually that time Egyptian troops were inside Israel (Sinai has nothing to do with that)
1956 Yes that war between Egypt Vs Britain (super power) + France ( Superpower) + Israel.

 

[James David]

Best Military Band from Turkey for everyones ears.

So please show me someone from an different Middle East Country.

Turkey has it´s own Place - Minor - Asia

Turkey for me has one of the strongest Army in Europe/Asia Minor if not the strongest buddy!!! Plus we got your back thats what allies are for!!!

Lebanon still has occupied land by Israel
Gaza cut some land by Israel + blocking Sea Air and land surrounding it(occupation)
Syria still has occupied land by Israel
Sinai....the holy place of Jews ...Israel left it .

It was returned to Egypt because Egypt lost it during the Yom Kippur. Nothing holy bout it I agree with @500.

As far as I know, the occupations you've mentioned are still ongoing mostly because Israel feels its border/national security threatened. I wouldn't call them invasions at all, by the situation of Israeli troops in these regions they seem more like buffer/secure zones ensuring external security not from sovereign threats but unconventional threats. I don't see a favor for Israel keeping the present day Sinai, or maybe I don't know enough about it yet.

I agree brother!

 

[Neptune]

Turkey for me has one of the strongest Army in Europe/Asia Minor if not the strongest buddy!!! Plus we got your back thats what allies are for!!!


It was returned to Egypt because Egypt lost it during the Yom Kippur. Nothing holy bout it I agree with @500.


I agree brother!

Thanks mate. Whats your OMPF background anyways?