Who defeated muslim world..

[Rajput of Bihar]

Who defeated Muslim world? Christian world.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Who defeated Muslim world? Christian world.

Na, it was the mongols
But back to the thread: those who explore win. We never explored. We never cared what was at the bottom of the seas, never took flight seriously (apart from a few anomalies who themselves were never taken seriously by their state) We never wanted to climb the highest peaks or explore the oceans.
Basically, the known world became bigger and soon land empires became obsolete. Heck we never even dug into the ground to see how far we could go like the Soviets did.
We never tried to find the source of the nile. Even though we controlled the nile for centuries.
Lack of curiosity = stagnation.

 

[TheNoob]

Nobody defeated the muslim world,
It's just that you cant defeat what's already not there.

 

[Menace2Society]

Na, it was the mongols
But back to the thread: those who explore win. We never explored. We never cared what was at the bottom of the seas, never took flight seriously (apart from a few anomalies who themselves were never taken seriously by their state) We never wanted to climb the highest peaks or explore the oceans.
Basically, the known world became bigger and soon land empires became obsolete. Heck we never even dug into the ground to see how far we could go like the Soviets did.
We never tried to find the source of the nile. Even though we controlled the nile for centuries.
Lack of curiosity = stagnation.

Who's we? Muslim world = Arab world only. The rest were colonies.

 

[Erieye]

at the rate things are going, soon it will be "who defeated pakistan?" "how did pakistan collapse?"

let me answer it beforehand since its the same problem we've had for a while: corruption, lawlessness, false sense of supriority complexes both against our own and against others, nepotism, cowardice, not focusing on human resource development

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

The real issue in the Muslim world is the monetary system. The Muslim world is defeated by the modern western banking system. The country that doesn't accept it gets destroyed. Because the western world pushes us to accept and do our business in artificial and printed paper money, this money accumulation in some circles of the Western world makes them too powerful. And that power is used to subdue Muslims and other resource-rich countries of the world. That's the reason why, no matter how rich and powerful a Muslim country is, it always is struggling with financial matters. We better build our own monetary system. The people who control Muslim countries usually have no long-term connection with local economies, and they make their assets in the same western countries who destroyed our civilization. The first step in defeating the western monetary system will be to establish justice, no matter what, in Muslim countries.


The same goes for the non-muslim countries, who became so rich due to their hard work, but they still are powerless, just because they are not in Europe or in America, they still are treated like a servant.
Examples of such countries are Korea, Japan, India, Malaysia, and Thailand.

Some countries are direct beneficiaries of this injustice. Examples of such countries are Canada, South Africa, and Australia.


China and Russia are exceptions. China and Russia challenged this system but in their own way. Russia did as Russians do with things, and China did what the Chinese do with things. A different approach, same goal.
But Russia wants its share, just this. China wants everything. So yeah, not really against this system.

India is playing on the behalf of western powers. No matter how much money India has, no matter how many CEOs India has, it's still a third-world country and a servant. Ready to be fired at any time.

Contemporary Islamic Scholarship teaches Muslims that one day we all Muslims will gather and fight against Kufr. We will kill Jews and conquer Jerusalem again. And then we will establish a Kilafah, where Islam will rule this world. But, guess what, if we will not establish our own monetary system, if we will not enforce it on the world, and if we will not control it, then this Khilafah state will again be borrowing money from Kuffars, just like Sahaba were borrowing money from Kuffars. So dear Muslim world, whatever you plan, include the establishment of an Islamic monetary and education system in it, or it will fail, as it did before.

Racism/ tribalism, greed and cowardice defeated Muslim world.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Who's we? Muslim world = Arab world only. The rest were colonies.

Most of the progress was done by turks and persians.
if you go back to the 17th century, you see the 2nd golden age, Ottoman, Savafid, Mughal
Where were the Arabs?
They were a non factor even in the time of Timur. In fact The Delhi Sultanat was perhaps the most powerul muslim state, one of the few that defeated the mongols. There was a reason Ibn Batuta came to South Asia to seek fortune.

 

[Menace2Society]

Most of the progress was done by turks and persians.
if you go back to the 17th century, you see the 2nd golden age, Ottoman, Savafid, Mughal
Where were the Arabs?
They were a non factor even in the time of Timur. In fact The Delhi Sultanat was perhaps the most powerul muslim state, one of the few that defeated the mongols. There was a reason Ibn Batuta came to South Asia to seek fortune.

Yes the different ethnicities, I see it as that.

 

[Imran Khan]

ignorance and not changing the 1400 years old thoughts .

 

[fisher1]

The real issue in the Muslim world is the monetary system. The Muslim world is defeated by the modern western banking system. The country that doesn't accept it gets destroyed. Because the western world pushes us to accept and do our business in artificial and printed paper money, this money accumulation in some circles of the Western world makes them too powerful. And that power is used to subdue Muslims and other resource-rich countries of the world. That's the reason why, no matter how rich and powerful a Muslim country is, it always is struggling with financial matters. We better build our own monetary system. The people who control Muslim countries usually have no long-term connection with local economies, and they make their assets in the same western countries who destroyed our civilization. The first step in defeating the western monetary system will be to establish justice, no matter what, in Muslim countries.


The same goes for the non-muslim countries, who became so rich due to their hard work, but they still are powerless, just because they are not in Europe or in America, they still are treated like a servant.
Examples of such countries are Korea, Japan, India, Malaysia, and Thailand.

Some countries are direct beneficiaries of this injustice. Examples of such countries are Canada, South Africa, and Australia.


China and Russia are exceptions. China and Russia challenged this system but in their own way. Russia did as Russians do with things, and China did what the Chinese do with things. A different approach, same goal.
But Russia wants its share, just this. China wants everything. So yeah, not really against this system.

India is playing on the behalf of western powers. No matter how much money India has, no matter how many CEOs India has, it's still a third-world country and a servant. Ready to be fired at any time.

Contemporary Islamic Scholarship teaches Muslims that one day we all Muslims will gather and fight against Kufr. We will kill Jews and conquer Jerusalem again. And then we will establish a Kilafah, where Islam will rule this world. But, guess what, if we will not establish our own monetary system, if we will not enforce it on the world, and if we will not control it, then this Khilafah state will again be borrowing money from Kuffars, just like Sahaba were borrowing money from Kuffars. So dear Muslim world, whatever you plan, include the establishment of an Islamic monetary and education system in it, or it will fail, as it did before.

Kaffirs/Jews uniting and plotting against Muslims.

Hindus in India are united against killing Muslims
America OKayed shedding Muslim by planning 9/11
British destroyed Ottomans empire and gave power to Jews to create ruckus in Arab world

Muslims on the other hands are too busy infighting fellow Muslims. Who is shedding more Muslim blood these days after America? Fellow Muslims!

 

[nahtanbob]

The real issue in the Muslim world is the monetary system. The Muslim world is defeated by the modern western banking system. The country that doesn't accept it gets destroyed. Because the western world pushes us to accept and do our business in artificial and printed paper money, this money accumulation in some circles of the Western world makes them too powerful. And that power is used to subdue Muslims and other resource-rich countries of the world. That's the reason why, no matter how rich and powerful a Muslim country is, it always is struggling with financial matters. We better build our own monetary system. The people who control Muslim countries usually have no long-term connection with local economies, and they make their assets in the same western countries who destroyed our civilization. The first step in defeating the western monetary system will be to establish justice, no matter what, in Muslim countries.


The same goes for the non-muslim countries, who became so rich due to their hard work, but they still are powerless, just because they are not in Europe or in America, they still are treated like a servant.
Examples of such countries are Korea, Japan, India, Malaysia, and Thailand.

Some countries are direct beneficiaries of this injustice. Examples of such countries are Canada, South Africa, and Australia.


China and Russia are exceptions. China and Russia challenged this system but in their own way. Russia did as Russians do with things, and China did what the Chinese do with things. A different approach, same goal.
But Russia wants its share, just this. China wants everything. So yeah, not really against this system.

India is playing on the behalf of western powers. No matter how much money India has, no matter how many CEOs India has, it's still a third-world country and a servant. Ready to be fired at any time.

Contemporary Islamic Scholarship teaches Muslims that one day we all Muslims will gather and fight against Kufr. We will kill Jews and conquer Jerusalem again. And then we will establish a Kilafah, where Islam will rule this world. But, guess what, if we will not establish our own monetary system, if we will not enforce it on the world, and if we will not control it, then this Khilafah state will again be borrowing money from Kuffars, just like Sahaba were borrowing money from Kuffars. So dear Muslim world, whatever you plan, include the establishment of an Islamic monetary and education system in it, or it will fail, as it did before.

Some of the Muslim empires had the advantage of the gun powder over their opponents. Once the advantage in gun powder evaporated it has been toast