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Yeah Muslim world isn’t “defeated” nor is it likely to be. Pakistan isn’t the Muslim world.

I think the OPs real question is, why aren’t Muslims ruling everything. 😂😂
 
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Nope he's right, it is corruption of knowledge, ignorance, injustice, arrogance, lack of meritocracy and poor leadership.

Lack of faith is a poor excuse, even the Christians or the atheistic can excel with the above.

Muslims always infuse their ethnic culture which is most of the time rooted in arrogance, ignorance and despises meritocracy.

They hate their own countrymen and would rather suck off the angrez. It is a serious issue.
Individual faith develops individuality and character. This is what propelled Western civilization as the people took over from the Church. European Christian world was intellectually in the Dark Age. The Church and monarchs didn't let the masses think and develop for themselves. In contrast, the early centuries of the Muslim world were intellectually vibrant. In some academic areas they were centuries ahead of their time.
 
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They never took the sea seriously. They were all primarily land based empires. The hatred of dealing with the ottomans forced the Spanish to find alternative routes. And they never took the skies seriously (they were pretty much gone by this point). Now they are not taking AI seriously and space seriously. Advancement is exponential. Those who fall behind in one realm will find it increasingly hard to catch up as time goes on.
 
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Dr Syed Ali al-Attas below says the root-cause is the corruption of knowledge which leads to ignorance, injustice, and poor leadership. I think it is also corruption of faith and the lack of faith. The values in the Quran generally don't exist in the masses and national leaders. I lived in Kuwait a long time and never thought of Arabs as righteous people described in the Quran. You come across individuals like that, but they are not the majority, so my question is, should it be called 'the Muslim world'?
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Paul Williams is a real gem of a man.
 
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The Muslims world was defeated few hundred years ago when the Europe was technologically advacinng

The 3 major Muslim gun powder Empires Ottoman Mughal and Persian decided not to cope with the advancement.

Sicne then we have been behind and will remain behind.

Nader Shah did adopt it. So did Ottomans but it wasn't about that. What defeated Muslims are Muslim themselves. Imagine Persians and Ottomans fighting each other for ages. They could've saved that time for advancement and military might.
 
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The Muslim world defeated itself by abandoning Islam.

Be good Muslims and rise again.

Example:

A mob in Pakistan beat a man to death and dragged him through the streets. This is called vigilantism. Reason: alleged blasphemy.

Under shariah law, this is not allowed. A judge must rule over the case, and evidences brought forward etc. Things are taken into account such as mental state, and in cases of murder the family can even forgive the culprit.

However the non-muslims will see the first option as a true representation of Islam. Your people have failed on every level and act disgracefully.


well said

we were better 1000 years ago than we are today
 
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Lack of reason, and more focus on emotions... but who needs reason with god on your side, am I right?
 
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Nader Shah did adopt it. So did Ottomans but it wasn't about that. What defeated Muslims are Muslim themselves. Imagine Persians and Ottomans fighting each other for ages. They could've saved that time for advancement and military might.
That competition is what fuels advancement. The European powers were constantly fighting one upping one another. Then the Soviets and USA in the cold war.
 
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well said

we were better 1000 years ago than we are today
Also allot of Muslims live in the past. They recall their golden age.

However what is more important is to learn history. Understanding what happened so that you can improve yourselves and avoid it from happening again.

Also do not blame others for your own problems. Others are simply taking advantage of your shortcomings. You can't blame them.
 
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The Muslims world was defeated few hundred years ago when the Europe was technologically advacinng

The 3 major Muslim gun powder Empires Ottoman Mughal and Persian decided not to cope with the advancement.

Sicne then we have been behind and will remain behind.

I would agree but main failure of the Muslim nations was not to get hold of the 2nd law of thermodynamics

basically when Western nations realised boiling water produced steam and that steam can be used to get work, steam can be used to generate action like pull a lever or turn a wheel which lead to the mass industrialisation the Muslims went to sleep

although Muslims had experimented with water and gravity with fountains etc they never got as far as boiling the water to generate steam

had Muslims mastered this in 15th Century we would have leaped frogged everyone by 200 years or even more

and once it was invited rather than sending our delegations to these nations like Japan did and learn and adopt, we retreated and went back to making mosaics and paintings and calligraphy

and then basically we were done train had left
 
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At least most now have dropped the pretense...

They all seek prosperity and wealth..

Question is in which currency?

Or, to be more precise whose inflation ... definitely not one promised by the Almighty!

Dollars, Pounds, Euros?

Answer... that is what you will get!

Company paid it's subjects in it's currency, it's coin... it didn't bring a new theology.

As long as people worked for it... company only needed more of the same!

Sounds familiar?
Because it is...
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It's not the monetary system.

It's local socioculture that was infused into them practicing their religion which made them weak.

I think it's simply a case of lacking meritocratic practices in daily life. Not prioritising research and development. And also not being economically liberal enough to let free market's survive.

Too much control in daily lives trying to control everything. Not enough focus on R&D, meritocracy.

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The real issue in the Muslim world is the monetary system. The Muslim world is defeated by the modern western banking system. The country that doesn't accept it gets destroyed. Because the western world pushes us to accept and do our business in artificial and printed paper money, this money accumulation in some circles of the Western world makes them too powerful. And that power is used to subdue Muslims and other resource-rich countries of the world. That's the reason why, no matter how rich and powerful a Muslim country is, it always is struggling with financial matters. We better build our own monetary system. The people who control Muslim countries usually have no long-term connection with local economies, and they make their assets in the same western countries who destroyed our civilization. The first step in defeating the western monetary system will be to establish justice, no matter what, in Muslim countries.


The same goes for the non-muslim countries, who became so rich due to their hard work, but they still are powerless, just because they are not in Europe or in America, they still are treated like a servant.
Examples of such countries are Korea, Japan, India, Malaysia, and Thailand.


Some countries are direct beneficiaries of this injustice. Examples of such countries are Canada, South Africa, and Australia.


China and Russia are exceptions. China and Russia challenged this system but in their own way. Russia did as Russians do with things, and China did what the Chinese do with things. A different approach, same goal.
But Russia wants its share, just this. China wants everything. So yeah, not really against this system.


India is playing on the behalf of western powers. No matter how much money India has, no matter how many CEOs India has, it's still a third-world country and a servant. Ready to be fired at any time.

Contemporary Islamic Scholarship teaches Muslims that one day we all Muslims will gather and fight against Kufr. We will kill Jews and conquer Jerusalem again. And then we will establish a Kilafah, where Islam will rule this world. But, guess what, if we will not establish our own monetary system, if we will not enforce it on the world, and if we will not control it, then this Khilafah state will again be borrowing money from Kuffars, just like Sahaba were borrowing money from Kuffars. So dear Muslim world, whatever you plan, include the establishment of an Islamic monetary and education system in it, or it will fail, as it did before.

Spoken in true Daesh spirit.
 
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