Who built Red fort in Delhi???

[Spectre]

Nope. Even if I say giraffes don't exist, some other anthropologist will submit a paper proving they do. Oral history is considered that - ORAL. Myth, hearsay etc. Archaeological evidence is something that is tangible and beyond a shred of doubt. If oral history was taken into account, the Ram Mandir debate would not even arise. Hindus had oral history of destroyed temple and all. But the ASI had to (rightly) dig in and do the thing. Else, the matter would remain just that - hearsay. There are rumors that Taj Mahal was a temple. Are we to accept that because oral history suggests that?

It does not work like that. Unilateral views, however tempting they may be, are not accepted into history books (unless you are writing Pakistan studies). Go through the right winger Sita Ram Goel's historical research. Marxist historians hated him (hate him), but were unable to refute his points scientifically. That is what counts. Not mythology, not hearsay.


But true story nevertheless. This was around the Do or Die movement. They ran out of space and decided on a new isolated compound for hardened fighters.

It seems like we are on the same page but different paragraphs, I have said oral history corroborated with archaeological evidence can together pose a certain historical theory which may not be proven as a true fact w/o any doubt in absence of clear written evidence and room for interpretation but nonetheless is a valid theory competing with others.

 

[Shamain]

Yea true World trade centre buildings and White house were also built by prithvi raj chohan.

 

[jamahir]

Oh I forgot to tell you that use of palm leaf manuscript in present day India was also passed down from IVC/SSC.

that is quite a stretch.

some connections for you to follow...

1. from ( Princely States Report > Archived Features >Cochin Palm Leaf Fiscals )...

Introduction

The oldest extant palm-leaf document dates from the second century A.D., but the use of palm leaves as writing material was already recorded in the fifth century B.C. In Cochin (now the State of Kerala) written documents and books have been inscribed on the leaves of two species of palm tree, specially prepared for that purpose, for more than 600 years. As the veins of a palm leaf are parallel to the edge, the horizontal straight lines of the northern Indian scripts would split the leaf but the rounded Malayalam script was ideally suited to this medium; in fact it has been suggested that the roundness of the letters is an adaptation of the script to the properties of the palm leaf. The text was written with a stylus, which scratched the letters into the leaf.

The earliest records of the ancient Brahmi script, from which modern Indian scripts have developed, are the rock-engraved edicts of the emperor Ashoka, dating from the third century B.C. Other important proclamations were engraved on copper but this was not a suitable material for everyday book-keeping and correspondence. Papyrus documents must have been seen by Indians in the hands of Assyrian traders whom they met when exchanging goods at the trade emporium on the island of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. The usefulness of written documents was obvious and the Brahmi script was modified from the Aramaic, but there was a need for a locally available writing material which was both inexpensive and abundant. In Kashmir birch bark served as paper until very recently, but that tree grows only above 9000 feet and there is no evidence of the export of birch bark strips to lowland India. No doubt the observation of the papyrus accounts of the merchants from Mesopotamia reminded the Indian traders of the texture of the palm leaves, and led to experimentation to adapt them for the same purpose.

2. from ( Ancient Scripts: Brahmi )...

The Brahmi script is one of the most important writing systems in the world by virtue of its time depth and influence. It represents the earliest post-Indus corpus of texts, and some of the earliest historical inscriptions found in India. Most importantly, it is the ancestor to hundreds of scripts found in South, Southeast, and East Asia.

This elegant script appeared in India most certainly by the 5th century BCE, but the fact that it had many local variants even in the early texts suggests that its origin lies further back in time. There are several theories on to the origin of the Brahmi script. The first theory is that Brahmi has a West Semitic origin. For instance, the symbol for a resembles Semitic letter 'alif. Similarly, dha, tha, la, and ra all appear quite close to their Semitic counterparts. Another theory, from a slightly different school of thought, proposes a Southern Semitic origin. Finally, the third theory holds that the Brahmi script came from Indus Script. However, at least in my personal opinion, the lack of any textual evidence between the end of the Harappan period at around 1900 BC and the first Brahmi and Kharoshthi inscriptions at roughly 500 BC makes the Indus origin of Brahmi highly unlikely.

You can also take a look at Asoka's edict at Girnar, inscribed in the Brahmi script.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No.
What does it say?


had it not been you, I would have assumed that somebody was emotionally blackmailing me into silence.
Lol

???
I have visited Red fort.

Yup... It was a Hindu Temple occupied by mughals just like Taj Mahal was built by Rajputs..

Yea true World trade centre buildings and White house were also built by prithvi raj chohan.

WTC was built by ancient Hindus .. It was used for genetic research back in the ancient vedic period..

 

[Jamwal's]

Lol
Complete it.


Sarthak
I wasn't talking about Republic of India.
You know that.


If not Pritviraj Chauhan then who??

Not sure, but the site is not far from later vedic settlement called indraprastha besides the river provides a natural security to the fort may be Guptas as their Iron pillar has been found nearby.

 

[third eye]

No.
What does it say?

This book has captured the essence of Delhi over the ages, Written in the first person one has to ignore some of Kushwant Singh's idiosyncrasies but an informative book all the same.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

It seems like we are on the same page but different paragraphs, I have said oral history corroborated with archaeological evidence can together pose a certain historical theory which may not be proven as a true fact w/o any doubt in absence of clear written evidence and room for interpretation but nonetheless is a valid theory competing with others.

Hehe, yeah. We got lost in semantics perhaps.

 

[Levina]

The earliest records of the ancient Brahmi script, from which modern Indian scripts have developed, are the rock-engraved edicts of the emperor Ashoka, dating from the third century B.C.

Not true.
Palm leaf manuscript was in use much before Ashoka, it has been mentioned in many of our scriptures and its visual representations can be seen in many monuments and sculptures across India. But tropical climate took its toll on palm leaf manuscripts. Life span of Palm leaf is about 300-350yrs after which it is usually copied to new sets of Palm leaves by "lipikaras" (professionals).

As the veins of a palm leaf are parallel to the edge, the horizontal straight lines of the northern Indian scripts would split the leaf but the rounded Malayalam script was ideally suited to this medium; in fact it has been suggested that the roundness of the letters is an adaptation of the script to the properties of the palm leaf.

interetsting!!!
@Star Wars @nair @SpArK @kurup
I thought I will share this piece of news with you guyzz.