Where did all the hype and hoopla go? Imran Khan's 2 year tenure

[Rollno21]

What you rambling on about?
I am no fan of IK but clearly he is the best choice our nation has. Look at the opposite yourself and see that Nawaz Sharif and the Bhutto clan are an embarrassing alternative.
He’s had 2 years - he needs another 8 for us to see significant change.
India have elected an inbred moron that can’t speak or understand English and isn’t capable of speaking on the international stage apart from saying injia gwaate fwend donut twamp. Any Indian attempting to suggest Modi is a better statesman than IK is talking nonsense.
Amazing how concerned Indians are when discussing Imran Khan - when their own leader is the lowest form of human.

What is wrong with you ,If you have not understood.i am not saying he is bad for Pakistan ,I am only saying he is good for India.

 

[Rollno21]

My little indian friend, I hope you are not included our Pakistani heritage of the great Indus Valley Civilisation into dirty poor backward india.

Our Pakistani heritage includes the IVC and the many peaceful lines of immigrants to make our Ancient Pakistan what it is.

Good you ivc gives you identity ,I am more than happy

 

[Rafi]

Good you ivc gives you identity ,I am more than happy

Good that you acknowledge that it is Pakistani

 

[Rollno21]

Good that you acknowledge that it is Pakistani

I have no problem with anyone who wants to identify with ivc

 

[Bilal.]

If it make you happy .ok

The innate subservience...

 

[Jungibaaz]

The Dems also made pretty sure that Bernie did not get the nomination vs Hilary, cant prove that it happened but many indications. You don't think that all elections are manipulated by both state and non state actors.

Mussadik of Iran was removed by a "popular" revolution of common people, pull the other one , it's got bells on.

Mossadeq’s case afaik was a coup backed by the CIA and British MI. As for Bernie, imo he did get screwed but that was more DNC internal party favouritism. Even so while I concede your point that the state and establishment everywhere exerts biases and continuity on their respective systems.

Pakistan however is a more unique case however, we’ve had more years of dictatorship and faux-democracy/hybrid dictatorship than actual years of true civilian rule, even the latter whenever it has been allowed space has been heavily undermined. As for the comparison with establishment bias in the US, I would argue that the comparison is unfitting.

The US has had 45 presidents, one single constitution (the civil war notwithstanding), and that document has been kept as the sacred and ultimate authority in the land. Meanwhile our constitution has been trampled and bypassed by every dictator since 1973.

And in our entire history, we have never had a single PM complete their term. I hope that Imran Khan will be the first to do so, but I have my doubts and those doubts have historic precedence.

This is why I think that our case is quite unique and warrants a lot of criticism of the active and on going attempts to undermine democracy and exert a bias on the system. I am putting these remarks as lightly as I can, what I know to have happened even in recent years would astound people if said openly, I have no evidence to back up such ludicrously shocking remarks, so I’ll leave it at that.

Apologies for the essay, but you get what I’m saying, I have a tendency to ramble.

 

[Rafi]

I have no problem with anyone who wants to identify with ivc

Neither do I, as long as it is part of Pakistan.

 

[Rafi]

Mossadeq’s case afaik was a coup backed by the CIA and British MI. As for Bernie, imo he did get screwed but that was more DNC internal party favouritism. Even so while I concede your point that the state and establishment everywhere exerts biases and continuity on their respective systems.

Pakistan however is a more unique case however, we’ve had more years of dictatorship and faux-democracy/hybrid dictatorship than actual years of true civilian rule, even the latter whenever it has been allowed space has been heavily undermined. As for the comparison with establishment bias in the US, I would argue that the comparison is unfitting.

The US has had 45 presidents, one single constitution (the civil war notwithstanding), and that document has been kept as the sacred and ultimate authority in the land. Meanwhile our constitution has been trampled and bypassed by every dictator since 1973.

And in our entire history, we have never had a single PM complete their term. I hope that Imran Khan will be the first to do so, but I have my doubts and those doubts have historic precedence.

This is why I think that our case is quite unique and warrants a lot of criticism of the active and on going attempts to undermine democracy and exert a bias on the system. I am putting these remarks as lightly as I can, what I know to have happened even in recent years would astound people if said openly, I have no evidence to back up such ludicrously shocking remarks, so I’ll leave it at that.

Apologies for the essay, but you get what I’m saying, I have a tendency to ramble.

"It is evident that all men are equal" except ------------
That constitution.

 

[Rafi]

Mossadeq’s case afaik was a coup backed by the CIA and British MI. As for Bernie, imo he did get screwed but that was more DNC internal party favouritism. Even so while I concede your point that the state and establishment everywhere exerts biases and continuity on their respective systems.

Pakistan however is a more unique case however, we’ve had more years of dictatorship and faux-democracy/hybrid dictatorship than actual years of true civilian rule, even the latter whenever it has been allowed space has been heavily undermined. As for the comparison with establishment bias in the US, I would argue that the comparison is unfitting.

The US has had 45 presidents, one single constitution (the civil war notwithstanding), and that document has been kept as the sacred and ultimate authority in the land. Meanwhile our constitution has been trampled and bypassed by every dictator since 1973.

And in our entire history, we have never had a single PM complete their term. I hope that Imran Khan will be the first to do so, but I have my doubts and those doubts have historic precedence.

This is why I think that our case is quite unique and warrants a lot of criticism of the active and on going attempts to undermine democracy and exert a bias on the system. I am putting these remarks as lightly as I can, what I know to have happened even in recent years would astound people if said openly, I have no evidence to back up such ludicrously shocking remarks, so I’ll leave it at that.

Apologies for the essay, but you get what I’m saying, I have a tendency to ramble.

All systems are manipulated to an extent, there are deep states in even so called western democracies. Even with the so called interference, which other Muslim countries are free as ours, lol the Gulf countries, Iran even Turkey is a lot more authoritarian.

Among developing countries, even india is more authoritarian. We live in the world we live in.

 

[Rollno21]

Neither do I, as long as it is part of Pakistan.

Hope some day people will start associating Pakistan like India when talking about IVC.

 

[Death Adder]

As long as we have Niazi as PM we don’t need external enemies. As our economy is crippled, Niazi put our national security at great risk, we are literally in the hands of IMF. How can we justify new defence accusations to IMF? Especially, when enemies got their hands of Rafael.

National Security aside, if you can’t control prices of sugar, wheat and other basic necessities in agriculture rich country, you’re not eligible to be a PM, you’re anti-state and enemy of Pakistan.

When we talk about accountability, not a single Rupee is been recovered from so called corrupt parties in last two years.

People who are saying there is no alternative of Niazi, they are living in fools paradise, no body wants to get their hands dirty. Who wants to take charge of country in today’s situation, when growth is negative, Rs is devalued, tax revenue is lowest in last 7 years, development is absolutely zero, businesses are facing bankruptcy, PIA is drowning and list goes on.
Let Bajwa doctrine + Niazi rule all the way.