When will the Muslims in India win their freedom?

[Destrius]

Indian Muslims should try to integrate into Indian culture and society.

 

[Rana4pak]

Pakistan is for Pakistanis. Indian Muslims need to fob off to europe or middle eastern states if they have problem in their country. If you ever spoke to these Indian muslims or know what they say about Pakistan, you will not feel so charitable.

I lived n studied with them I know they are coward in front of indoos.am talking about make Balochistan prosper develop canal systems and create industries and settles native Pakistanis to take maximum benefits from that unused land

 

[Clearly]

I lived n studied with them I know they are coward in front of indoos.am talking about make Balochistan prosper develop canal systems and create industries and settles native Pakistanis to take maximum benefits from that unused land

our population is large enough to provide labour for big projects and start settlement in unused lands, but this is for Pakistanis.

 

[Trango Towers]

Jinnah won them freedom in 1947 - but they decided not to move to Pakistan.

Not only move but opposed Pakistan

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I lived n studied with them I know they are coward in front of indoos.am talking about make Balochistan prosper develop canal systems and create industries and settles native Pakistanis to take maximum benefits from that unused land

We don't need another Sindhi vs Muhajir situation in Balochistan, very bad idea. They are very proud people and many forget that this province is 60% Pukhtoon. It will be a disaster for Pakistan.

No thanks. I don't think any province will want them.

 

[Yankee-stani]

We don't need another Sindhi vs Muhajir situation in Balochistan, very bad idea. They are very proud people and many forget that this province is 60% Pukhtoon. It will be a disaster for Pakistan.

No thanks. I don't think any province will want them.

Yes we ended a decade after a hard won battle against the State and the nation we cant afford to throw a monkey in wrench situation where millions can flee to Pakistan plus who knows they could be fifth column for the Indians

 

[Cookie Monster]

The nation which voluntarily gives up its freedom deserves to be treated as slaves - Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha

Once the Muslims in India reach the Pak-level courage in their mindsets and actions they'll gain their freedom Insha'Allah...

What's the Pak-level courage?

It's the courage of the leadership and folks not to shy away from the MAD via nukes!!! Bhutto started it, Zia-ul Hak finished it, and NS tested it!!! And, IK wasn't even "thinking to retaliate, but would retaliate" by using them!! Hence, Pak is free from the overwhelming Hindu domination for she is ready to die en masse for her freedom...

Fear is no policy, surrender is no option....

The Turkish Anthem (given here in English) perfectly depicts this Pak-level courage:

Fear not; For the crimson banner that proudly ripples in this glorious dawn, shall not fade,
Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my homeland is extinguished.
For that is the star of my people, and it will forever shine;
It is mine; and solely belongs to my valiant nation.

Frown not, I beseech you, oh thou coy crescent!
Smile upon my heroic nation! Why the anger, why the rage?
Our blood which we shed for you shall not be worthy otherwise;
For freedom is the absolute right of my GOD-worshipping nation!​

I have been free since the beginning and forever shall be so.
What madman shall put me in chains! I defy the very idea!
I'm like the roaring flood; trampling my banks and overcoming my body,
I'll tear apart mountains, exceed the Expanses and still gush out!

The horizons of the West may be bound with walls of steel,
But my borders are guarded by the mighty bosom of a believer.
Let it bellow out , do not be afraid! And think: how can this fiery faith ever be extinguished,
By that battered, single-fanged monster you call "civilization"?

My friend! Leave not my homeland to the hands of villainous men!
Render your chest as armour and your body as bulwark! Halt this disgraceful assault!
For soon shall come the joyous days of divine promise;
Who knows? Perhaps tomorrow? Perhaps even sooner!

View not the soil you tread on as mere earth - recognize it!
And think about the shroudless thousands who lie so nobly beneath you.
You're the glorious son of a martyr - take shame, grieve not your ancestors!
Unhand not, even when you're promised worlds, this heavenly homeland.

Who would not sacrifice their life for this paradise of a country?
Martyrs would burst forth should one simply squeeze the soil! Martyrs!
May GOD take my life, my loved ones, and all possessions from me if HE will,
But let HIM not deprive me of my one true homeland in the world.

Oh glorious God, the sole wish of my pain-stricken heart is that,
No heathen's hand should ever touch the bosom of my sacred Temples.
These adhans and their testimonies are the foundations of my religion,
And may their noble sound prevail thunderously across my eternal homeland.

For only then, shall my fatigued tombstone, if there is one, prostrate a thousand times in ecstasy,
And tears of blood shall, oh Lord, spill out from my every wound,
And my lifeless body shall burst forth from the earth like an eternal spirit,
Perhaps only then, shall I peacefully ascend and at long last reach the heavens.

So ripple and wave like the bright dawning sky, oh thou glorious crescent,
So that our every last drop of blood may finally be blessed and worthy!
Neither you nor my kin shall ever be extinguished!
For freedom is the absolute right of my ever-free flag;
For independence is the absolute right of my GOD-worshipping nation!

If Indian Muslims want another partition to gain independence...then they have to make a concerted effort...I've written about a potential solution in the following thread.
Breaking India - Law enforcement agencies breaking the law

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Yes we ended a decade after a hard won battle against the State and the nation we cant afford to throw a monkey in wrench situation where millions can flee to Pakistan plus who knows they could be fifth column for the Indians

Assuredly, they would undermine and break our great state to pieces. I rather have Afghans here than Indian Muslims or Bangladeshis. Atleast we share the same culture.

 

[Rana4pak]

We don't need another Sindhi vs Muhajir situation in Balochistan, very bad idea. They are very proud people and many forget that this province is 60% Pukhtoon. It will be a disaster for Pakistan.

No thanks. I don't think any province will want them.

Nothing come easy first it was impossible to fence waziristan fata n Balochistan boarder .it will occuring now.if that is the way than why pukthoons and Balochistan are living in Sind n Punjab .all Pakistanis are proud .not pukthoons or balouch

 

[Cookie Monster]

Indian Muslims should try to integrate into Indian culture and society.

What do u know about Indian Muslims?

What exactly do u mean here by "Indian Muslims should try to integrate into Indian culture and society"? Do u know for how many centuries...generation after generation...Indian Muslims have been living in India? They are born there, grown up there, served the country, they pay taxes there, they have served in the military and laid down their lives for it too. They share the same culture, language, and the way of life as those around them. The only difference is their religion. It is due to this they are facing persecution. Do u mean they should just convert to hinduism? Or should they just take oppression laying down and not fight back against it?

Why should they be treated like second class citizens when they have done their part? It was India that promised a "secular democracy" and equal rights for ALL remember? I don't agree with Indian Muslims ideologically bcuz I think they were fools(and now they are paying for it)...but on their part they have done their job and India(the state) owes them the promise of that equality that was made.

@jamahir @AfrazulMandal u guys wanna answer this person about "integrating into Indian culture and society"?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

What do u know about Indian Muslims?

What exactly do u mean here by "Indian Muslims should try to integrate into Indian culture and society"? Do u know for how many centuries...generation after generation...Indian Muslims have been living in India? They are born there, grown up there, served the country, they pay taxes there, they have served in the military and laid down their lives for it too. They share the same culture, language, and the way of life as those around them. The only difference is their religion. It is due to this they are facing persecution. Do u mean they should just convert to hinduism? Or should they just take oppression laying down and not fight back against it?

Why should they be treated like second class citizens when they have done their part? It was India that promised a "secular democracy" and equal rights for ALL remember? I don't agree with Indian Muslims ideologically bcuz I think they were fools(and now they are paying for it)...but on their part they have done their job and India(the state) owes them the promise of that equality that was made.

@jamahir @AfrazulMandal u guys wanna answer this person about "integrating into Indian culture and society"?

He is Indian Hindu RSS.

It may be time to revive a new independent state/states for Indian Muslim, Western Gujurat, Mughalistan in UP including Dilli, Agra, Lucknow, etc., Northeast Muslim state coming out of Assam and Bihar, and a new Hyderabad state with access to sea on both sides.

 

[Yankee-stani]

He is Indian Hindu RSS.

It may be time to revive a new independent state/states for Indian Muslim, Western Gujurat, Mughalistan in UP including Dilli, Agra, Lucknow, etc., Northeast Muslim state coming out of Assam and Bihar, and a new Hyderabad state with access to sea on both sides.

Its up to the Indian Muslims to decide if they want to fight back I am not seeing results tbh on that front instead more blame on Pakistan as usual

 

[Reddington]

Indian Muslims are the most coward, weakest, slave minded people on the planet. They are the very definition of "cuckold". They would rather prefer to be slaughtered than fight for their honour (if they have any that is).

Throughout their lives they kept singing Hindu Muslim Bhai Bhai (Hindu Muslims are brothers) and showed no sympathy towards Kashmiri Muslims when Indian army was committing atrocities on them. Now these Bhayyas themselves will face the music.

Even a bigger irony is that these Bhayya Muslims always repeated BS of their Hindu brethren that Kashmiris who were fighting for their freedom were all jihadi terrorists. Now these pos gangoo Bhayya themselves only have the choice of fighting (doing jihad) to save their honour from their Hindu brothers.

get off the egotistical high horse of their forefathers and humbly accept that their forefathers made a mistake 70 years ago by apologizing.

What does this even mean. I keep reading this same BS in every second thread that their forefathers made a mistake. Well who the f**k cares. A Pakistani does not give a hoot about any gangoo Muslim apart from few people. Pakistanis only care about Kashmiri Muslims. That's it.

Secondly, Pakistan was never meant to be a refugee camp. These are all lies propagated by Indians that every Muslim should have migrated to Pakistan and India is for hindus only. There never ever was any plan about moving Indian Muslims into Pakistan. To house all Indian Muslims in one place (who are almost the same in population as population of entire Pakistan) another country almost the size of Pakistan is needed. Use your brain fgs. Do we have resources that we could have housed all the Indian Muslims?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

August 1947.

 

[Kaniska]

When the muslims of india take the 2 following steps:

1. get off the egotistical high horse of their forefathers and humbly accept that their forefathers made a mistake 70 years ago by apologizing.
2. CALL OUT TO PAKISTAN FOR HELP! Then just see In sha Allah how fast we turn hindutva into a discarded, used, snot filled tissue paper!

Kashmiri are still waiting for your help...What have you done so far for them?