When will China's military be able to challenge the U.S.?

[CardSharp]

This is HARDLY science fiction, or fanboy stuff

The USA already tests an ELECTROMAGNETIC FORWARD SUBMARINE in 1966

Technology: Run Silent, Run Electromagnetic - TIME



And gravity can very well be used as a radar, every object in the world has a gravitational field, planes, ships. If it was possible to develop instruments sensitive enough to detect changes in gravity it would be possible to detect a plane just by reading the gravity field of the plane.

Technology: Run Silent, Run Electromagnetic

Friday, Sep. 23, 1966


WTF? If they haven't finished it in 40 years, I'd say it is unfeasible.

And gravity can very well be used as a radar, every object in the world has a gravitational field, planes, ships. If it was possible to develop instruments sensitive enough to detect changes in gravity it would be possible to detect a plane just by reading the gravity field of the plane.

Fluctuations in the earth gravity is many many orders of magnitude greater than anything that could be given off by an airplane. Try again.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

I wasn't talking about military confrontation, but a strong China could bring peace in the world and prevent the U.S. from attacking countries left and right, imposing puppet regimes, stealing their resources - basically doing whatever they want, without ever being held to account for their crimes. It would definitely bring more stability. Apart from China, the rise of other nations such as India, Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey etc. is also very important if want a more stable and peaceful world.

 

[inddef]

i expect to see all the countries battered by US embargoes running to align with china once if it decides to compete with the US for allies.
there is a very high chance of this happening for countries where there is mutual gain. (natural resources etc)
the world could potentially become bipolar again.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

i expect to see all the countries battered by US embargoes running to align with china once if it decides to compete with the US for allies.
there is a very high chance of this happening for countries where there is mutual gain. (natural resources etc)
the world could potentially become bipolar again.

Good point, even if China doesn't want military confrontation, you never know what these American thugs will do. Also, bipolar is still better than total U.S. hegemony.

 

[Chinaownseverything]

Fluctuations in the earth gravity is many many orders of magnitude greater than anything that could be given off by an airplane. Try again.

A plane moving at super sonic speeds would give off a different type of fluctuation.

And we already have satellites that can track different parts of the earth just by looking at gravity.

Gravity-mapping satellite will help predict climate change | Science | The Guardian

The technologies for these new concept weapons are at most 10-20 years away.

The submarine is workable because the USA government has been working on it for around 50 years.

Keep in mind that the German government started working on a "stealth bomber" in the 1920's and it wasn't until 1990's that the USA government revealed that they Finished building it in the 1980's.

Thats 70 years of development

 

[anon45]

I wasn't talking about military confrontation, but a strong China could bring peace in the world and prevent the U.S. from attacking countries left and right, imposing puppet regimes, stealing their resources - basically doing whatever they want, without ever being held to account for their crimes. It would definitely bring more stability. Apart from China, the rise of other nations such as India, Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey etc. is also very important if want a more stable and peaceful world.

Why would a strong China bring peace to the world? Non interference? Assuming your vision of the US is the case, How would China prevent ' U.S. from attacking countries left and right' if its policy is non-interference? Any action against the US on behalf of the other country would be interference and taking a side, no?

If it changes its policy of non-interference then how is it any different from the US in respects to its foreign policy?

Once again, how would a strong China bring stability when we already see it destablizing Asia with its claims of sovereignity and its protection of a crackpot North Korean regimein order to enhance its own interests?

The lack of a strong global presence not only economically, but military would simply lead to every country building up its own military in order to protect itself (because China sure as hell won't protect it with its policy of non-interference) thus increasing military tensions around the world, and the possibilities of miscalculation.

Simply put, if Pakistan didn't have the US to defuse a tense situation with India, and China claimed neutrality (as expected of a policy of non-interference) would conflict be more likely or less?

 

[anon45]

Good point, even if China doesn't want military confrontation, you never know what these American thugs will do. Also, bipolar is still better than total U.S. hegemony.

A bipolar world is considered the most stable, so yes, it would be better than total U.S. hegemony in terms of stability.

the rest of your post is not much different from American nationalist posts on Chinese 'bandits'.

 

[Chinaownseverything]

Why would a strong China bring peace to the world? Non interference? Assuming your vision of the US is the case, How would China prevent ' U.S. from attacking countries left and right' if its policy is non-interference? Any action against the US on behalf of the other country would be interference and taking a side, no?

If it changes its policy of non-interference then how is it any different from the US in respects to its foreign policy?

Once again, how would a strong China bring stability when we already see it destablizing Asia with its claims of sovereignity and its protection of a crackpot North Korean regimein order to enhance its own interests?

The lack of a strong global presence not only economically, but military would simply lead to every country building up its own military in order to protect itself (because China sure as hell won't protect it with its policy of non-interference) thus increasing military tensions around the world, and the possibilities of miscalculation.

Simply put, if Pakistan didn't have the US to defuse a tense situation with India, and China claimed neutrality (as expected of a policy of non-interference) would conflict be more likely or less?

Name one situation that the USA helped defuse instead of worsen.

The USA starts more WARS than it stops.

The USA backing of Israel just made the conflict worse

Military operations conducted by the Israel Defense Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The USA backing of Iraq led to the Iran Iraq wars.

9/11 occurred because of USA involvment with Israel and USA occupation of Saudia Arabia and sanctions against Iraq.

It was USA involvment in middle eastern affairs that got it attacked and now it is engaged in two more wars and probably a 3rd on with iran.

The Venezuela vs Colombia conflict was made WORSE by the USA. Relations between the two neighbors mostly deteriorated because Hugo Chavez a communist got elected and the USA pretty much bribed Colombia's neighbor into being a USA proxy and hosting USA military and CIA operations.

Somalia is in a neverending state of civil war similar to Vietnam because the USA backs a bunch of corrupt warlords that 90% of the population of Somalia hates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Somalia_(2006-present)

The war officially began shortly before December 20, 2006 when U.S. backed Ethiopian troops invaded Somalia to prop up the TFG in Baidoa[

The thing about the USA, is that IT ONLY INTERFERES TO PROP UP THE LOSING SIDE (like in Vietnam), THUS MAKING A NEVER ENDING STRUGGLE

How come the USA doesn't intervene in Sudan?

The USA is NOT a peace keeping force. If it wasn't for the USA these conflicts would have ended LONG ago.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Most conflicts throughout the world are a result of western imperialism.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Look at the past ten years:

The Iraq War (based on invisible WMD's), the Afghanistan War, the Lebanon War, and the Gaza War. All started by America and Israel. That's in the past ten years alone.

How many wars has China started in the past decade? Don't interfere with China, and China won't interfere with you.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

The USA starts more WARS than it stops.

Exactly, the U.S. is the CAUSE of violence and terror and suffering. Here are some excellent books on this subject (U.S. state terrorism and hegemony) which I highly recommend. It's extremely shocking.

"Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II." (William Blum).

"Hegemony or Survival: America's quest for global dominance" (Noam Chomsky).

"Rogue State - a Guide to the World's Only Superpower" (William Blum)

 

[Patriot]

Well in all honesty US is not that bad.When you are the only super power then arrogance sets in.US imo has done a lot of good work as well but US start acting like a spoilt brat (who wouldn't? with 14 trillion economy) after Soviet Dismemberment.So Multi Polar World will again put USA in good place and it will start acting like a good country (As it used to in cold war).China on the other hand believe in Live and let others live which is a good policy but China will have to change that policy and become more interventionist once it becomes great power.

 

[faithfulguy]

I would like to know your opinion on this. According to you, when will China's military be able to challenge U.S. military domination? 20 years? 30 or 40 years? As we all know, currently the U.S. dominates the world and all waters.

Around the territorial water of China, probably in 40-50 years. As for rest of Asia and beyond, its beyond the scope of our guesses. If China indeed continue to grow at this rate while US continue to stay in recession, I can even see China invading US mainland in 2110 as China will be much wealthier even per capita as compare to the US. So its technology will be much more advance. But that is year 2110, maybe even Africa will be as rich as China.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Well in all honesty US is not that bad.

It can hardly get worse. They have been killing millions and millions of innocent people throughout the world, it's nothing new. If you had read this excellent book "Killing Hope" by William Blum, your opinion would change dramatically.

BTW, this is an excellent site:
Third World Traveler, third world, United States foreign policy, alternative media, travel

 

[TorontoNoctis]

The world would be a much worse place without the US around.

There will always be an imperialist power to fill the void. And I can think of much worse powers than the US. Japanese imperialism, British imperalism, German imperalism, French imperalism were all worse. In terms of imperalists, Americans are relatively benign. If you think nobody would step up to seize power if the USA suddenly went isolationist or disappeared, you're naive. I'm sure everyone prefers America to the Empire of Japan.

It can get much, much worse. History is longer than ten years.