When Pakistan tried to become a superstate

[1648]

All we know is USSR grand strategy and unconditional intelligence & military support was cardinal in breaking Pakistan into

1. Bangladesh

3:42 onward

 

[1648]

3:42 onward

Watch the full video to grasp the propagandist sponsored Baluchistan freedom struggles unlike the Kashmiri's who genuinely want it for themselves.

Note: The video is for brainy people. Usual indiots & delusionals whose highest achievement in their lives is masterbation dont watch or respond to my posts.

 

[nahtanbob]

Overall a balanced video.. couldn't blame Pakistan for trying in the early 90s and even managed success by having a more friendly Taliban govt than the hostile Najeebullah govt..
But then the politics of the Middle East and beyond came to the region..

Sorry for a country that is dependent on the IMF it is a misplaced priority

 

[1648]

Sorry for a country that is dependent on the IMF it is a misplaced priority

You the indyan in the garb of american are sans shame.

USA owes $ 1.3 trillion in debt to China (not mentioning Japan, and Brazil yet). Forget IMF for Pakistan, you'd be needing good offices of Pakistan to reschedule america's Chinese debt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

Excerpt:
As of May 1, 2020 federal debt held by the public was $19.05 trillion and intragovernmental holdings were $5.9 trillion, for a total national debt of $24.95 trillion.[5][6] At the end of 2019, debt held by the public was approximately 79.2% of GDP,[7][8] and approximately 37% of the debt held by the public was owned by foreigners.[9] The United States has the largest external debt in the world.

 

[Max]

Sorry for a country that is dependent on the IMF it is a misplaced priority

Sorry for the country who is suffering from corona bcoz of illetrate Hindu terrorist at helm.

As far Pakistan, Both economic development and regional politics can go side by side..

Lots of ground work is needed to make big moves in Central Asia. we can start with ground work which is less costly.

South Asians are obsessed with superpowerdom.

This video was created by most probably an European or Central Asian.

 

[SQ8]

There is truth to the assertion that Pakistan tried to position itself as the bullwark for Central Asian trade and security - but it’s over indulging and misuse of religion in state and social matters will keep it from ever becoming an attractive economic or security partners.

 

[The Accountant]

• Pakistan used Islamism post 71 as a source of cohesion among its diverse populace, 71 was seen as failure of secularism.
• Same ideology could have been used for post soviet states for the same purpose as states were looking for an ideology.
• Pakistan was well positioned to build its influence in post soviet states, and to do so it needed favourable conditions in Afghanistan. To achieve that Pakistan promoted jihadism and Taliban which backfired.

To cut long story short Pakistan botched it by promoting lunatics that scared off the central Asians and these lunatics turned on Pakistan too.

My friend you are totally at fault here. In 1971 bhutto regime came in which was closed to Russia and communism and not Islamic at all.

They tried to create a secular state instead. There were bars and night clubs in Karachi during 70s. Islamization in pakistan increased during 80s and that was due to the geo political situation. After Zia took the power Pakistan got back into American camp and Soviet Union wanted to change that. They entered Afghanistan and had intention to increase it influence to Pakistan. As Soviet Union was actively involved in breakup of Pakistan in 1971 therefore we were surrounded by very powerful enemies from 2 sides whereas Iran was also not in good terms with Pakistan due to shia revolution.

There was already a civil war in Afghanistan and Pakistan just manage to direct it to divert back soviet union and we succeed.

Last but not the least creation of Taliban never hurt Pakistan. You need to understand who Taliban are. There is a huge difference between Taliban, Al-Qaeda, TTP and ISIS. All of them are totally different entities.

Taliban did not exist before 1994. In 1994 a local Islamic teacher chosen by local people as amir due to his honest and his ability of giving justice on time. Due to remarkable personality of Mullah Umer, he united all different factions of Afghanistan Civil War (except for northern alliance) and they formed a government in 1996. Pakistan realizing that Taliban could be an answer to peace in Afghanistan become the key supporters of Afghanistan and in reality, from 1996 to 2001 was the most peaceful years in long history of Afghanistan.

 

[1648]

There is truth to the assertion that Pakistan tried to position itself as the bullwark for Central Asian trade and security - but it’s over indulging and misuse of religion in state and social matters will keep it from ever becoming an attractive economic or security partners.

The xenophobia in Pakistan isn't due to religion. Islam is not afraid to meeting new people. At the least, Pakistan should open up its tourism for OIC countries, and be like Turkey who earns much from tourism. It's merely a suggestion to policy makers of Pakistan.

 

[SD 10]

By doing so you killed 70,000 of your own civilians , lost billions of dollars ,created fundamentalist ...

we dont fear death!! It doesn`t matter!!! THey paid ten times!!

 

[1648]

Superpower is thrown around too casually

indyans habitually shiit on our threads with their half-brain activity.

Superstate, the concept in thread, is "a large and powerful state formed from a federation or union of nations."

Superpower is "a state with a dominant position characterized by its extensive ability to exert influence or project power on a global scale."

and indya wont be either of them.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

This is a very timely thread and reminds me of my recent thread:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-reminds-me-of-another-great-strategic-state.676842/

The Late Gen Ziaul Haq shaheed (RA) was the only one who had this vision. IIRC, the whole Afghanistan strategy was not just to get the Red Army off Pak's back. It was about getting into Afghanistan and then using it as a lever to eventually get all the 5 CA Stans as well. He reportedly once ran a finger over the map of whole of CA Stans and said that this will be all ours. Incorporation of the Stans would have given Pak not only the strategic depth but also the wealth and resources needed to realise its dream of predominance over initially South Asia; and eventually the whole of Asia and Greater ME.

His assassination was possibly engineered to those who would have been endangered by the Greater Pakistan plan. Connect the dots....

Regards

 

[nahtanbob]

Sorry for the country who is suffering from corona bcoz of illetrate Hindu terrorist at helm.

As far Pakistan, Both economic development and regional politics can go side by side..

add begging bowls to the mix

 

[nahtanbob]

You the indyan in the garb of american are sans shame.

USA owes $ 1.3 trillion in debt to China (not mentioning Japan, and Brazil yet). Forget IMF for Pakistan, you'd be needing good offices of Pakistan to reschedule america's Chinese debt.

at the end of the day nobody queues up to enter pakistan (may be your local Afghans)
even chinese line up in tens of thousands to immigrate to USA

 

[Yankee-stani]

Honestly wasted effort Central Asia went from being under Moscow"s thumb to Beijing Thumb Pakistanis wasted time there

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

thankyou for changing the title