When Jinnah refused Rohingyas to be part of Bangladesh

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Because Hindus are confident that they can settle in India no matter how much Assamese ultra-nationalist raise hue and cry. BJP govt. is with them. All the Hindus outside Assam are with them. So they can look at NRC with carefree attitude. But for Muslims, no such privilege exist.

No such privilege exists for anyone be it Hindus or Muslims, this is another one of your feel-good fantasy posts about minority victimization. Once you are declared you will be treated same irrespective of your religion. And about BJP's support for the Hindu refugees, who else would do it? Your Jamatis and Rozakars? They were victims of your state sponsored abuse in Bangladesh and like your Chakma/Hajong tribals they had every right of seeking refuge in India.

Tell you what though, these Hindus from Bangladesh have more balls than your BD Miyas. Unlike the Miyas who identified themselves as Assamese but worked secretly to undermine our culture the Hindus resisted our attempts to impose Assamese on them and even laid down their lives to protect their language. Being spineless is something associated with your BD Miyas be it in Assam or Myanmar.

 

[SIPRA]

Can any poster tell me the estimated numbers of BD Muslims and Hindus, who are illegally living in India? I believe, there is no authentic data on this.

 

[War Thunder]

I hoped he refused to take Bengali's too .. but

I hope we can start accepting our own mistakes and taking responsibility like men instead of behaving like women and keep blaming others.
Bengalis were all fine and its us who screwed up, apart from Bengal being on the other side of the world and having little to no strategic access to it, which helped india play its game.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

No such privilege exists for anyone be it Hindus or Muslims, this is another one of your feel-good fantasy posts about minority victimization. Once you are declared you will be treated same irrespective of your religion. And about BJP's support for the Hindu refugees, who else would do it? Your Jamatis and Rozakars? They were victims of your state sponsored abuse in Bangladesh and like your Chakma/Hajong tribals they had every right of seeking refuge in India.

Tell you what though, these Hindus from Bangladesh have more balls than your BD Miyas. Unlike the Miyas who identified themselves as Assamese but worked secretly to undermine our culture the Hindus resisted our attempts to impose Assamese on them and even laid down their lives to protect their language. Being spineless is something associated with your BD Miyas be it in Assam or Myanmar.

Do not talk bullshit here. Have you ever seen any Hindu ever deported from India for being an illegal migrant? If it is not a privilege that what it is? While millions of indigenous Muslims are under threat of loosing their citizenship. Because according to your communal hindutva logic Hindus can not be the illegal migrant in India, they are persecuted by default. While Muslims despite living for generations, are branded as illegal migrants. No matter how much you try to paint it as fair to all, but you can not hide the obvious truth. Both India and Myanmar are trying to cleanse their land off Muslims. And for that purpose targeted Bangladesh to dump those unwanted Muslims.

 

[Black_cats]

Do not talk bullshit here. Have you ever seen any Hindu ever deported from India for being an illegal migrant? If it is not a privilege that what it is? While millions of indigenous Muslims are under threat of loosing their citizenship. Because according to your communal hindutva logic Hindus can not be the illegal migrant in India, they are persecuted by default. While Muslims despite living for generations, are branded as illegal migrants. No matter how much you try to paint it as fair to all, but you can not hide the obvious truth. Both India and Myanmar are trying to cleanse their land of Muslims. And for that purpose targeted Bangladesh to dump those unwanted Muslims.

Already more than 10 million Muslim are declared legal. Remaining around 1.2 to 2 million to be declared as legal where majority are woman and children whose family members are already declared legal so they will be as well legal. But this is some kind of harassment. It is either the extreme poor floating people or the woman who migrated a different region for marriage fell victim to it. At best around 100k will be from Bangladesh.

Don’t pay much attention to the nonsense of this @Axomiya_lora where he is forgetting majority of the Ahom are migrant from South China to as far as Thailand where as Bengali Muslim are living there since 12th century and onward.

This is surprising they are expecting Bengalis to give up Bengali language and culture for the minorities or would be minorities. If properly Bengalis are counted both Muslim and Hindus Bengalis are already majority there in Assam. Islam itself on way to become majority there!!

 

[namefield_empty]

Can any poster tell me the estimated numbers of BD Muslims and Hindus, who are illegally living in India? I believe, there is no authentic data on this.

41 lakhs Hindus and Muslims found their names excluded from the draft list in Assam alone, out of a total population of about 3 crores state population. Final list will be published next month. You can well imagine the all-India figure.

Congress government back in the day in Assam encouraged Muslim BD immigration and provided them land settlements to further their vote bank, so the actual magnitude is a lot more.

Have you ever seen any Hindu ever deported from India for being an illegal migrant?

That is because they don't brave the BSF bullets crossing into India shamelessly in the dark of the night. And they are persecuted minorities from your country who came to India fearing for their lives in BD.

If it is not a privilege that what it is?

A privilege well earned in my opinion, leaving their properties and belongings back there for you to loot. They are not economic immigrants like the BD miyas. Even then, they are counted amongst the illegals should they fail to qualify as citizens.

This is surprising they are expecting Bengalis to give up Bengali language and culture for the minorities or would be minorities.

Bengali is a state language here, so you can cut the crap. Inspite of that your illegal miyas tried to identify themselves as Assamese trying to pass off as citizens.

 

[Black_cats]

41 lakhs Hindus and Muslims found their names excluded from the draft list in Assam alone, out of a total population of about 3 crores state population. Final list will be published next month. You can well imagine the all-India figure.

Congress government back in the day in Assam encouraged Muslim BD immigration and provided them land settlements to further their vote bank, so the actual magnitude is a lot more.

With same criteria a significant number of Ahom would be excluded as well which was not applied to them. Even with the excluded 4 million Assam’s population growth rate is lower than India since 1951. From census data itself there are no proof of illegal migration. Only extreme poor floating people, woman and children fell victim to it.

41 lakhs Hindus and Muslims found their names excluded from the draft list in Assam alone, out of a total population of about 3 crores state population. Final list will be published next month. You can well imagine the all-India figure.

Congress government back in the day in Assam encouraged Muslim BD immigration and provided them land settlements to further their vote bank, so the actual magnitude is a lot more.


That is because they don't brave the BSF bullets crossing into India shamelessly in the dark of the night. And they are persecuted minorities from your country who came to India fearing for their lives in BD.

A privilege well earned in my opinion, leaving their properties and belongings back there for you to loot. They are not economic immigrants like the BD miyas. Even then, they are counted amongst the illegals should they fail to qualify as citizens.


Bengali is a state language here, so you can cut the crap. Inspite of that your illegal miyas tried to identify themselves as Assamese trying to pass off as citizens.

It’s only due to security concern on themselves. As more than 10 million Muslim has already been declared legal more will recognize themselves as Bengali. Assam is a Bengali state to begin with than Ahom state.

 

[namefield_empty]

With same criteria a significant number of Ahom would be excluded as well which was not applied to them. Even with the excluded 4 million Assam’s population growth rate is lower than India since 1951. From census data itself there are no proof of illegal migration. Only extreme poor floating people, woman and children fell victim to it.

I wonder where from you got your fantasy data, as nothing is out on the public domain yet.

Criteria is simple enough for the pea-brained Bangladeshis to comprehend. You come to Assam after 24th of March 1971 and you will be declared an alien irrespective of your religion. Don't try to bring Hindu-Muslim to all discussion.

Assam is a Bengali state to begin with than Ahom state.

As more than 10 million Muslim has already been declared legal

Good for them if they could furnish citizenship documents and legacy data. Unlike your country who drove out the Hindus and tribals we won't do the same to any legal Indian.

 

[TopCat]

It’s only due to security concern on themselves. As more than 10 million Muslim has already been declared legal more will recognize themselves as Bengali. Assam is a Bengali state to begin with than Ahom state.

Thats the irony of this NRC drama staged by Ahomies. Now there will not be any bar for muslim to identify them as bengali anymore. Enough of that blackmailing. Garga Chatterjee (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=34190) already started working on it...

 

[Saiful Islam]

As usual, i see your countrymen doubt your credentials owing to your hard hitting, fact-laden statements but don't let that deter you. Burmese are considered as savages by the Bangladeshis when it's the other way around. Rohingyas are the most backward and regressive thinking community in our neck of the woods.

I would even welcome a Bangladeshi to my state, but these Rohingyas-never ever.. Though Bangladeshis are maintaining distance from the Rohingyas they want other countries to house them! Sheer duplicity, imo.

Well you don't know what Indians are then do you. The most fascist, xenophobic types out there. Sell outs period.

 

[namefield_empty]

Thats the irony of this NRC drama staged by Ahomies. Now there will not be any bar for muslim to identify them as bengali anymore. Enough of that blackmailing. Garga Chatterjee (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=34190) already started working on it...

Yeah, sitting in West Bengal and spewing filth online under instructions from his Miya-loving paymaster is all that deluded brain scientist can do. He won't dare set foot in Assam and his Bengali chauvinism tactics won't save TMC from getting routed in the next assembly polls. Indians of WB have had enough of their miya appeasements and like it or not NRC is coming to WB too.

Well you don't know what Indians are then do you. The most fascist, xenophobic types out there. Sell outs period.

Yet we host more than 4 million of your illegal kind in one state alone, half of them are those driven away from your Shonar Bangla utopia.

 

[TopCat]

Yeah, sitting in West Bengal and spewing filth online under instructions from his Miya-loving paymaster is all that deluded brain scientist can do. He won't dare set foot in Assam and his Bengali chauvinism tactics won't save TMC from getting routed in the next assembly polls. Indians of WB have had enough of their miya appeasements and like it or not NRC is coming to WB too.

NRC will only empower muslim... and BJP will grant citizenship to hindus. Assamese are the one going to be the end looser.

 

[namefield_empty]

NRC will only empower muslim

They were already empowered, enjoying same rights as the rest of us. Maybe it will help them come out of their perpetual victimhood mindset. The aliens on the other hand though...

 

[Black_cats]

I wonder where from you got your fantasy data, as nothing is out on the public domain yet.

Criteria is simple enough for the pea-brained Bangladeshis to comprehend. You come to Assam after 24th of March 1971 and you will be declared an alien irrespective of your religion. Don't try to bring Hindu-Muslim to all discussion.





Good for them if they could furnish citizenship documents and legacy data. Unlike your country who drove out the Hindus and tribals we won't do the same to any legal Indian.

Hardly Ahoms had to go through the same process!!

www.aljazeera.com/amp/indepth/opinion/time-listened-plight-assam-foreigners-180803143309823.html

An impossible route to legal citizenship

To be included in the NRC, Assam residents are required to produce official documents such as land ownership records, birth certificates, high school records or voter lists that would demonstrate that they - or one of their blood ancestors - had been a citizen of India on or before 1971.

On the face of it, this may seem like a reasonable and fair request. However, it is impossible for many Assam residents to meet this demand. In a country which has a long history of widespread illiteracy, poorly maintained land records and corrupt local administrations, obtaining these documents is not easy. Furthermore, many families do not register their children's births or send them to school.

As the Chief Minister of the neighbouring state of Bengal, Mamata Banerjee, pointed out, in a country in which the majority of people don't even know the date of their parents' birth, how can people be expected to produce these documents? Banerjee said even she would not be able to obtain documents that categorically prove that she or her parents were Indian citizens in 1971.

This process is even more skewed against women. Women from the Bengali community in Assam typically don't have birth certificates (like many men), and rarely stay in school long enough to get an official certificate. They are typically married off before they are 18 years old, and therefore their names don't appear alongside their fathers' on the voting lists. They may obtain voter lists in which their names appear next to their husbands', but that is not accepted as proof of their citizenship.

 

[namefield_empty]

typically don't have birth certificates (like many men), and rarely stay in school long enough to get an official certificate. They are typically married off before they are 18 years old, and therefore their names don't appear alongside their fathers' on the voting lists.

False, there are a host of documents accepted as a proof of legacy data other than birth certificate, if someone is not able to furnish even one of them doubts will automatically be raised on them being Indian citizens.
http://www.nrcassam.nic.in/admin-documents.html