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What's Wrong with Pakistan? --BY ROBERT D. KAPLAN

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Yes I do...

But why Pakistani people/media never question their army??? It's their right to do so.

I intended to visit Islamabad in 2006, one of my best mates it British Pakistani (from New Castle)... but then suddenly his marriage happened... and then you know..BIWI ka gulaam ban gaya woh :(


Corruption in Army and baboos and elected officials is the same in India as in Pakistan give and take few rupees.


Anyone who disagrees with me, needs to visit the country across the border to see that.

This Kaplan guy should be asked as to when was he in Pakistan the last time, and how long of time he spent with hardworking farmers and auto mechanics in Pakistan.

the whole OP is load of ignoramus $hit by Kaplan, and then shoveled around so "lovingly" by the expert shovelers from India or India origin. Obviously it is their family business and thus the "lovingly" part.


Kashmir $hit should be cleaned. But if it is there for another 20 years, it hurts both India and Pakistan but not mortally. For both of them, Kashmir is far far away from major industry and trade centers.


FATA $hit is there because the country on the other side of the border has been in one or the other war for almost 50 damned years.

Ask Cambodia and Laos people as to what happened only with 10+ years of war next door. Those countries really really got f'd up just being neighbors to the war ravaged country called Vietnam.

Actions of Pol Pot were just like an Islamist $hit dog. If you know what I mean.


The only difference between India and Pakistan is that ordinary people in India will go ga ga lady gaga when they see a gora or remotely white skin. That happens inside India and it happens when Indians go to work in the West.


So in the 90s, when the global trade opened up, India was a quick beneficiary,

And obviously Pakistan was not.


The day Pakistanis masses quickly copied Chinese, South Koreans, and Indians for being good global citizens, us to will be as poor or as prosperous as Indians, Chinese, or South Koreans.


So the bottom line for all the Indian $hit shovelers on this thread,

Quit!

you are all getting your own @rses soiled.

And

if you are so concerned with the well being of Pakistan, try to make a trip, you may be pleasantly surprised to learn things first hand.

Sitting in dark room and talking $hit about your neighboring country is just like Talib@stards sitting in dark hujra $hitting about Hindus.

Hope you understand this.
 
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There are flaws in this article...but good read...
 
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Yes I do...

But why Pakistani people/media never question their army??? It's their right to do so.

I intended to visit Islamabad in 2006, one of my best mates it British Pakistani (from New Castle)... but then suddenly his marriage happened... and then you know..BIWI ka gulaam ban gaya woh :(


Dang!

Got married huh! That Sob, needs to show who wears the pant in the house.

:lol:

Yeah man. Do try to visit.

you will find plenty of criticism of army, and everyone else.

There are no "sacred" cows in Pakistani society. Everyone is butt of the jokes here.


Peace to you
 
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Let's see mate, have to go to Australia as I have been appointed here for 6 months. Surely once I save I will try to visit. You ready to meet??? lol Just kidding. I am sure Pakistan is beautiful like India and Western and Indian media hypes a lot about troubles in Pakistan. I saw the Beautiful Pakistan thread and I was awe struck with it's natural beauty. But more than beauty I want to experience people of Pakistan, I am sure they are not how they pretend to be on PDF.

Dang!

Got married huh! That Sob, needs to show who wears the pant in the house.

:lol:

Yeah man. Do try to visit.

you will find plenty of criticism of army, and everyone else.

There are no "sacred" cows in Pakistani society. Everyone is butt of the jokes here.


Peace to you
 
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Of course they are, and unaccountable too...10 billions of US funds went where? - I don't think Pakistani's bothered to ask that question because they trust their army.


it is not 10 my dear. 20 billion in 10 years. Roughly 2 billions per year.

Those billions go straight to State Bank of Pakistan. They do not get to the army generals.

It is a HUGE misconception, that Americans transfer the money straight to army account.

there is no such thing.



State bank then uses the hard cash to pay for the stuff we buy from overseas and also part of the loan/interest installments.


Army gets rupees as salaries and expenses.

Dollars spent for army are in the form of equipment purchases from overseas.


That's all.
 
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it is not 10 my dear. 20 billion in 10 years. Roughly 2 billions per year.

Those billions go straight to State Bank of Pakistan. They do not get to the army generals.

It is a HUGE misconception, that Americans transfer the money straight to army account.

there is no such thing.



State bank then uses the hard cash to pay for the stuff we buy from overseas and also part of the loan/interest installments.


Army gets rupees as salaries and expenses.

Dollars spent for army are in the form of equipment purchases from overseas.


That's all.

I am talking about the 10 billion that Zardari transferred to the PA and was only revealed by him this year. There's a thread here on it - check it out.
 
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I am talking about the 10 billion that Zardari transferred to the PA and was only revealed by him this year. There's a thread here on it - check it out.

I haven't seen the thread.


but there are many many many constipated conspiracy theories being spread around by Communists, Islamists, and their Indian lackeys.
 
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Let's see mate, have to go to Australia as I have been appointed here for 6 months. Surely once I save I will try to visit. You ready to meet??? lol Just kidding. I am sure Pakistan is beautiful like India and Western and Indian media hypes a lot about troubles in Pakistan. I saw the Beautiful Pakistan thread and I was awe struck with it's natural beauty. But more than beauty I want to experience people of Pakistan, I am sure they are not how they pretend to be on PDF.

Sounds like a plan.

Oh by the way, don't make it too complicated. and thus prohibitively expensive for you.

There are express / direct bus service from pretty much any major city in India to Amritsar.

The fare is not too much.

Then take a Sardar Ji taxi :lol: to Wagah.

Visit Lahore in your first trip.
Who knows if I am there, I can at least invite you for a PDF dinner. After all someone has to beat that PDF party in Hyderabad by (
@jbgt90,
@tvsram1992,
@SyamaAyas) :lol:

See the city in your first trip.

That should be it.

You can always make a second trip later for cities up North or down South.
 
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I haven't seen the thread.


but there are many many many constipated conspiracy theories being spread around by Communists, Islamists, and their Indian lackeys.

Indians, Communists and Islamists conspiring against you :lol: whatever happened to the Afghans, Jews, CIA, westerners, Zionists, evil yindoo's, Saudie's, xyz's etc?

Congrats on your genuine brainf@rt.
 
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Indians, Communists and Islamists conspiring against you :lol: whatever happened to the Afghans, Jews, CIA, westerners, Zionists, evil yindoo's, Saudie's, xyz's etc
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Those conspiracy theories about Jews, CIA, westerners, Zionists etc. etc. etc. are precisely the handywork of Commies and Islamists.

I thought you knew.

Or as so many Indians, you believe in them too?
 
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Those conspiracy theories about Jews, CIA, westerners, Zionists etc. etc. etc. are precisely the handywork of Commies and Islamists.

I thought you knew.

Or as so many Indians, you believe in them too?

Now that's an original - keep it up - you are thoroughly entertaining all the evil yindoo's here.
 
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I am really sick and tired of ill informed neighbours lecturing us on the inner workings of our country. And without any understanding of the complexity of what is involved harp on about the same of nonsense. Sorry but this is getting old real fast, i am now beginning to understand why some PDF members had a sense of hostility towards the other.
 
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I am really sick and tired of ill informed neighbours lecturing us on the inner workings of our country. And without any understanding of the complexity of what is involved harp on about the same of nonsense. Sorry but this is getting old real fast, i am now beginning to understand why some PDF members had a sense of hostility towards the other.


yeap. So many good Indians, educated lot, settled in the West lot, all loose their senses when it comes to Pakistan.

They will not say a thing about goras, but when it comes their own next door neighbors, people who should be known to you the most, they behave as little $tupid primitive beings, then one has to sit back and ask

--- "did you really say that?" Are you that ignorant?




However as the urdu poet said long time ago

-- Dono taraf ha Aag braber lagee hoovie (both sides are to be blamed).


Us Pakistanis too behave irrationally towards Indians and Hinduism. And that shows us as ignoramus village idiots.


peace
 
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yeap. So many good Indians, educated lot, settled in the West lot, all loose their senses when it comes to Pakistan.

They will not say a thing about goras, but when it comes their own next door neighbors, people who should be known to you the most, they behave as little $tupid primitive beings, then one has to sit back and ask

--- "did you really say that?" Are you that ignorant?




However as the urdu poet said long time ago

-- Dono taraf ha Aag braber lagee hoovie (both sides are to be blamed).


Us Pakistanis too behave irrationally towards Indians and Hinduism. And that shows us as ignoramus village idiots.


peace

In the large schemes of things these are just trivialities..
Indians may think of Pakistanis as illiterate terrorists or super men from Mars..doesnt make an iota of difference to Pakistani's.
Pakistani's may think of Indians as ??...doesnt make an iota of difference there either.

What matters is that the respective nations prosper economically and socially...those are the only barometers that are important all over the world..the rest is just noise.
 
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