What would escalate war with Iran?

[Hack-Hook]

See picture above for key facilities.


What do you mean? That doesn't make sense. Sorry.


They did have concrete signs (satellite pictures) but later it turned out the evidence was fake

well if they can make some fake evidence for Iraq . why they could not made such fake evidence for Iran ?
and for gods sake you put Jabir-ibn-hayyan multi purpose Laboratories there between key facilities , the funny part is yes its a key facility of Iran nuclear program as it's where we gain the know how of producing different form radioisotopes for medical purposes .

well it wont make sense for you because you think west is omnipotent nobody can made something better.the short answer the must powerful usa bunker-buster s a 14 ton bomb that can penetrate 70m in reinforced concrete well the problem is enforced concrete is 5000psi and that bomb only can penetrate 8m if the concrete is 10000psi . now the interesting part is the best concrete that France produce is 20000psi but what our universities send to world competitions is usually around 50000psi . that was funny in these competitions they usually break the concrete cubes with a big press and what happened in the last competition was hilarious the press for two time failed to break 10x10x10cm cube we provided and the third time they tried to break it the press itself break.

 

[atatwolf]

well if they can make some fake evidence for Iraq . why they could not made such fake evidence for Iran ?

They don't need to make fake evidence for Iran because Iran is actually producing it. U.S is making preparations now when Iran gets close to making a bomb, they will act and set Iranian nuclear development back by 4 years.

 

[Surenas]

They don't need to make fake evidence for Iran because Iran is actually producing it. U.S is making preparations now when Iran gets close to making a bomb, they will act and set Iranian nuclear development back by 4 years.

Iran is producing what? And no expert is sure if the US can actually set back Iran's program for 4 years.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

They don't need to make fake evidence for Iran because Iran is actually producing it. U.S is making preparations now when Iran gets close to making a bomb, they will act and set Iranian nuclear development back by 4 years.

Iran is not making WMD's. The IAEA and CIA themselves said they aren't. It's the Israelis spreading propaganda.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

You say, if the US attacks, but the US has not had the guts to attack since the days when the US puppet in Iran was overthrown and you know why? It's because those who run the US are not morons like you, they simply don't want to start something they cannot finish.

I don't think it's the US that scared to attack, it's rather the Iranian retaliation to Israel and Arab countries. Iranian missiles can reach Tel-Aviv and can finish most of Saudis oil drills... They can also attack US bases in Iraq/Afghanistan.

 

[atatwolf]

Iran is producing what? And no expert is sure if the US can actually set back Iran's program for 4 years.

This will set Iranian program back for 4 years:

 

[Armstrong]

@atatwolf : Dude why don't you guys cross over into Iraqi Kurdistan & capture some of it to form a buffer zone between Turkish mainland & Iraqi Kurdistan ! Take care of the PKK from there & don't let them into mainland Turkey !

 

[jbond197]

I guess diplomacy is the need of hour in Iran and a regime change is gonna cool down lots of things. I am sorry but Ahmadinejad is a crack pot and is the reason of most of the mess there.

 

[atatwolf]

@atatwolf : Dude why don't you guys cross over into Iraqi Kurdistan & capture some of it to form a buffer zone between Turkish mainland & Iraqi Kurdistan ! Take care of the PKK from there & don't let them into mainland Turkey !

That would be useless. Iran is providing geographical support to PKk. Recent reporta have shown that they opened camps on Iranian soil. As long as there are country's around such as Iran and Syria who provided support, there is no use in creating buffer zone.

 

[Armstrong]

That would be useless. Iran is providing geographical support to PKk. Recent reporta have shown that they opened camps on Iranian soil. As long as there are country's around such as Iran and Syria who provided support, there is no use in creating buffer zone.

Can the border be mined & fenced or is it like the border we share with Afghanistan with thousands of caves, ravines & gullies spread over a 1000 kms or so which makes it virtually impossible to monitor never mind fence or mine !

 

[Armstrong]

That would be useless. Iran is providing geographical support to PKk. Recent reporta have shown that they opened camps on Iranian soil. As long as there are country's around such as Iran and Syria who provided support, there is no use in creating buffer zone.

Can the border be mined & fenced or is it like the border we share with Afghanistan with thousands of caves, ravines & gullies spread over a 1000 kms or so which makes it virtually impossible to monitor never mind fence or mine !

 

[rayan123]

It is true that war united-states against Iran is unthinkable, with catastrophics consequances, paradoxically also and especially for the americans.

war in iran even if it the sees the likely victory of united states, in the air and on the seas, the united states will have as many losses in a few days or weeks as for one year in Iraq during the worst years!

the economic consequences could be nothing less than the economic crash of the West has already end of breath!

and even in the worst case, all that lot of disasters will only delay for a few years the nuclear program, but also will be guaranteed a nuclear iran

robert gates in october 2012:

"An attack Would Prove catastrophic, and Would make a nuclear Iran inevitable"

no president (and certainly not this dog Zionist obama) does dare utter the word "containment", but it seems to be the only option for the united states.

 

[rayan123]

the united states have no way to prevent to last!

kiegblitz or not!

the united states, already have used the krigbliezt iraq, serbia, vietnam, ...........
(12 million tons of bombs) never heard about shock and awe ?

it never worked during the Gulf War in 1991, the united states allocated 10 000 outputs to identify saddal's mobile launchers to stop scuds falling on israel ..... it did not workd and saddam had only 22 mobile launchers!

iran owns fare more mobile launchers, 40 launchers bases, solid fuel missiles very easy to launch, missiles in silos, and a territory four times larger and extremely montanious.

if the united states have not succeeded in silencing saddam's scud ( toys ) how they expect success in Iran?

iran will coordinate their fire with the insurgents in Iraq, and Afghanistan, the green area will be devastated, and the sadr troops will finish the job, bases in Qatar and bahrain will also be devastated, and overwhelmed by dams missiles, Wed missiles, will also overwhelmed the defenses of US navirs the Iranian featured fast will finish the job, even if in the end the Iranian naval forces are are reduced or even destroyed the united states will suffer unacceptable damage to the opignon .

and the global economy and American will be at the bottom of the throne

and all this, will only help delay the Iranian program will be delayed by 2 to 4 years

no president will dare to say the word " containment" but it's the only option left to US even after the war iran will have de nuclear deterrence !

the united states have no way to prevent to last!

kiegblitz or not!

the united states, already have used the krigbliezt iraq, serbia, vietnam, ...........
(12 million tons of bombs) never heard about shock and awe ?

it never worked during the Gulf War in 1991, the united states allocated 10 000 outputs to identify saddal's mobile launchers to stop scuds falling on israel ..... it did not workd and saddam had only 22 mobile launchers!

iran owns fare more mobile launchers, 40 launchers bases, solid fuel missiles very easy to launch, missiles in silos, and a territory four times larger and extremely montanious.

if the united states have not succeeded in silencing saddam's scud ( toys ) how they expect success in Iran?

iran will coordinate their fire with the insurgents in Iraq, and Afghanistan, the green area will be devastated, and the sadr troops will finish the job, bases in Qatar and bahrain will also be devastated, and overwhelmed by dams missiles, Wed missiles, will also overwhelmed the defenses of US navirs the Iranian featured fast will finish the job, even if in the end the Iranian naval forces are are reduced or even destroyed the united states will suffer unacceptable damage to the opignon .

and the global economy and American will be at the bottom of the throne

and all this, will only help delay the Iranian program will be delayed by 2 to 4 years

no president will dare to say the word " containment" but it's the only option left to US even after the war iran will have de nuclear deterrence !

 

[Sedqal]

Why are Pakistanis in favor of Iran strike? That war will have all the potential to spread into Pakistan too. Best case scenario for Pakistan is that liberals take over Iran (hopefully a non-violent takeover) so Walayat e Faqeeh revolution is not exported to Pk, this will also remove the unhealthy aptitude n Iran to poke fingers at an internal matter of a sovereign state Pakistan (flaming the Shi'ites).

I wonder why Pk does not support the liberals in Iran? (morally not financially)

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Why are Pakistanis in favor of Iran strike? That war will have all the potential to spread into Pakistan too. Best case scenario for Pakistan is that liberals take over Iran (hopefully a non-violent takeover) so Walayat e Faqeeh revolution is not exported to Pk, this will also remove the unhealthy aptitude n Iran to poke fingers at an internal matter of a sovereign state Pakistan (flaming the Shi'ites).

I wonder why Pk does not support the liberals in Iran? (morally not financially)

you'd be hard-pressed to find people here who are in favour of such strikes on the neighbour country (an Islamic Republic!)