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What Would a Hypothetical U.S.-Pakistan War Look Like?
One word: Hell.

by Kyle Mizokami

In the U.S. television series Homeland, the United States and Pakistan are brought to the brink of war. In real life, the two countries are allies, albeit strained ones at that, and many Americans believe Islamabad often actively works against Washington’s interests. If the relationship turned poisonous, how would the United States prosecute a war against Pakistan?

In order to proceed, let’s sketch out two war scenarios. In one, we’ll assume that the United States is pursuing an air-only campaign, in order to punish the country or strip it of some vital capability—nuclear weapons being a prime example. In the second scenario, the United States seeks to topple the country’s government entirely, including the occupation of the capital, Islamabad.

A prolonged U.S. air campaign would be a difficult proposition. Unlike past campaigns against Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, and Afghanistan, Washington would find regional allies who could provide air bases a difficult proposition. Pakistan enjoys warm relations with most of the Sunni states, particularly the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, both of whom have air bases capable of hosting U.S. tactical aircraft, as well as Saudi Arabia and Oman.

A U.S. air campaign directed against Pakistan would largely consist of bomber, carrier, and cruise missiles strikes. Strategic bombers, including the B-1, B-2, and B-52 would conduct strikes from the continental United States and the American base on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. Only these aircraft have the range to strike targets in Pakistan from friendly bases. Depending on the level of international support, long-range bombers could also launch from the United Kingdom, including RAF Fairford, improving sortie rates.

The U.S. Navy would play a major role. U.S. forces would neutralize the relatively weak Pakistani Navy. While the Pakistani Navy operates about one hundred ships, it has only a handful of surface combatants of frigate size or larger, and just five aging diesel-electric submarines. Once these are neutralized the U.S. Navy could bring its aircraft carriers closer to the coastline, conducting airstrikes against military targets. Surface warships and nuclear-powered attack submarines would contribute by launching swarms of Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles against highly defended targets.

An air campaign against Pakistan would be slower and more fraught with difficulty than past campaigns. Pakistan’s Air Force has nearly four hundred fighters, including American F-16 Fighting Falcons, and would need to be quickly destroyed. U.S. Navy and Air Force aircraft could see their first significant air to air combat since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

An all-out invasion of Pakistan would be much more difficult, bordering on impractical. An invasion would require securing the city of Karachi, a coastal city of 14 million, then a march upcountry of approximately 700 miles. Securing Karachi alone would be an immense effort dwarfing efforts to secure Baghdad in the late 2000s, one that required more than 100,000 U.S. troops and the cooperation of local militias.

The Pakistani Army consists of nearly 800,000 active-duty personnel, with significant reserves totaling more than a half-million. Much if not most of this force is arrayed against the border with India, but the U.S. invasion route would actually pass through many of Pakistan’s forward-deployed forces. While U.S. forces would be qualitatively superior, it would be a grinding fight that could be interrupted at any time by Pakistani nuclear weapons.

Of course, there is one regional power that can provide everything the U.S. needs, including local air bases and a large army, navy, and air force, already positioned in the theater with well-sketched battle plans: India. India could help with an air campaign, providing runways for U.S. fighter bombers to operate from, or even contribute its own airpower. Indian ground forces have a far shorter route to Islamabad and overmatch Pakistani forces on the ground.

The question is whether or not India would join a U.S.-led coalition against Pakistan. India has seldom cooperated with the United States in military operations, declining to send troops to Iraq and Afghanistan, among others. India’s cooperation would largely depend on the circumstance, the most likely being the U.S. joining an Indian-led coalition against Pakistan.

Another power that could join such a conflict is China. China and Pakistan enjoy warm relations, and the rhetoric between the two countries suggests a relationship nearing that of a mutual defense pact. But it isn’t, and it’s not clear that China would risk direct conflict with the United States if Pakistan in some way overreached. China might, on the assumption that a U.S. puppet state in neighboring Pakistan would diminish China’s power and influence abroad. It’s worth remembering that the last time Chinese forces fought Americans was after the U.S.-led United Nations forces advanced into a state neighboring Beijing.

A U.S. war with Pakistan would be extremely difficult to wage and fraught with difficulty. It would also be forced to proceed under the assumption that some Pakistani nuclear weapons would survive a sustained effort to destroy them, to be used against U.S. forces or targets in some way later in the campaign. This is the sort of uncertainty that can veto military action and makes a war between Washington and Islamabad an absolute conflict of last resort.

Source: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/what-would-hypothetical-us-pakistan-war-look-141072
 
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If this scenario was to materialise it would have happened when the US and Allies had over 100000 troops in Afghanistan. Attacking a nuclear armed country is a highly risky undertaking and no sane person could or would make that decision. Our only threat and weakness is within and the traitors amongst our midst who sell out the people for money.
 
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US back in 2011 were thinking about invading FATA, Pakistan. Pakistan passed a message via third country to USA that if USA were to invade FATA Pakistan would use its nukes. Pakistan had chosen American regional bases, India, Israel and some puppet Arab countries.
If usa was to ever go to war with Pakistan, Pakistan wouldn’t hesitate and use all its nukes against US and it’s puppets. If Pakistan goes down it’s bringing everyone else down with it. Just how general Hamid Gul said Pakistans tactical maneuverability is far beyond the region.
 
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There won't be any functional Pakistan left in the end.
 
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US back in 2011 were thinking about invading FATA, Pakistan. Pakistan passed a message via third country to USA that if USA were to invade FATA Pakistan would use its nukes.

It would have been a major miscalculation on the US part and such decisions were never gonna come thru. I am not saying Pakistan is stronger than the US and rightfully the Americans are the stronger nation that is just ground realities but they would still experience logistical nightmare in bringing in logistics because they are so far away and would have difficulty putting men on the ground because of logistics in where Pakistan has heavily presence it presents same issues in Taiwan but on a less scale in the logistics department. The Indians may appear dumb and puppets but they will back out of it because what benefit would it be for them... While the American is in his comfort somewhere in Las Vegas while all the population centers in India could be in ruin within an hour this is not a deal India would take it is like accepting a deal based on your own suicide.

US will have issues putting troops on land due to logistics it won't be a fruitful war regardless it could land couple of nukes but that is about it.. Fighting on the eastern threatre entirely is off the table in the US doctrine for WW3. Their own main battle ground starts from Eastern europe that is where they have all their defensive and heavy military presence. I reckon their plan in WW3 will be to expand from that area and slowly thru out the world inch by inch.. It could take them 10 years to conquer their way from East Europe to Shanghai that is probably the more logistic realistic approach but I don't see them being able to walk thru all the nations that are spread thru out these lands..
 
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US back in 2011 were thinking about invading FATA, Pakistan. Pakistan passed a message via third country to USA that if USA were to invade FATA Pakistan would use its nukes. Pakistan had chosen American regional bases, India, Israel and some puppet Arab countries.
If usa was to ever go to war with Pakistan, Pakistan wouldn’t hesitate and use all its nukes against US and it’s puppets. If Pakistan goes down it’s bringing everyone else down with it. Just how general Hamid Gul said Pakistans tactical maneuverability is far beyond the region.

NO, the fact is if Pakistan took the actions against the Taliban and went to fight against them inside own territory because US told,

The Bush administration threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" after the September 11 attacks if the country did not cooperate with America's war on Afghanistan, it emerged yesterday.

So, the fact is no comparison with or without Nuclear bombs.
 
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NO, the fact is if Pakistan took the actions against the Taliban and went to fight against them inside own territory because US told,

The Bush administration threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" after the September 11 attacks if the country did not cooperate with America's war on Afghanistan, it emerged yesterday.

So, the fact is no comparison with or without Nuclear bombs.

20 years ago Pakistan and this pakistan is completely different.. Pakistan is a young country just 70 years old and it was around 50 something 20 years ago.. Pakistan has matured and a different emerging Pakistan. Muzarraf's decision was the right decision within it's timing. Pakistan is 100 times stronger today than it was 20 years back. Nations just automatically keep growing
 
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I doubt they could even attain air superiority over Pakistan let alone a manned invasion through Karachi northward. Guns in nearly half the households, a lot of Pakistanis will turn into guerrilla fighters, and the huge young population will get busy making a massive network of tunnels. Man pads being locally made and available would be a risk to any low flying aircraft for many months and maybe even years. And any SAM system that is destroyed by anti radiation missiles, can be replaced through the Chinese land connection and can pop back up in an area where they thought they had been destroyed. And we didn't even need to talk about the nuclear weapons.
 
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What Would a Hypothetical U.S.-Pakistan War Look Like?
One word: Hell.

by Kyle Mizokami

In the U.S. television series Homeland, the United States and Pakistan are brought to the brink of war. In real life, the two countries are allies, albeit strained ones at that, and many Americans believe Islamabad often actively works against Washington’s interests. If the relationship turned poisonous, how would the United States prosecute a war against Pakistan?

In order to proceed, let’s sketch out two war scenarios. In one, we’ll assume that the United States is pursuing an air-only campaign, in order to punish the country or strip it of some vital capability—nuclear weapons being a prime example. In the second scenario, the United States seeks to topple the country’s government entirely, including the occupation of the capital, Islamabad.

A prolonged U.S. air campaign would be a difficult proposition. Unlike past campaigns against Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, and Afghanistan, Washington would find regional allies who could provide air bases a difficult proposition. Pakistan enjoys warm relations with most of the Sunni states, particularly the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, both of whom have air bases capable of hosting U.S. tactical aircraft, as well as Saudi Arabia and Oman.

A U.S. air campaign directed against Pakistan would largely consist of bomber, carrier, and cruise missiles strikes. Strategic bombers, including the B-1, B-2, and B-52 would conduct strikes from the continental United States and the American base on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. Only these aircraft have the range to strike targets in Pakistan from friendly bases. Depending on the level of international support, long-range bombers could also launch from the United Kingdom, including RAF Fairford, improving sortie rates.

The U.S. Navy would play a major role. U.S. forces would neutralize the relatively weak Pakistani Navy. While the Pakistani Navy operates about one hundred ships, it has only a handful of surface combatants of frigate size or larger, and just five aging diesel-electric submarines. Once these are neutralized the U.S. Navy could bring its aircraft carriers closer to the coastline, conducting airstrikes against military targets. Surface warships and nuclear-powered attack submarines would contribute by launching swarms of Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles against highly defended targets.

An air campaign against Pakistan would be slower and more fraught with difficulty than past campaigns. Pakistan’s Air Force has nearly four hundred fighters, including American F-16 Fighting Falcons, and would need to be quickly destroyed. U.S. Navy and Air Force aircraft could see their first significant air to air combat since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

An all-out invasion of Pakistan would be much more difficult, bordering on impractical. An invasion would require securing the city of Karachi, a coastal city of 14 million, then a march upcountry of approximately 700 miles. Securing Karachi alone would be an immense effort dwarfing efforts to secure Baghdad in the late 2000s, one that required more than 100,000 U.S. troops and the cooperation of local militias.

The Pakistani Army consists of nearly 800,000 active-duty personnel, with significant reserves totaling more than a half-million. Much if not most of this force is arrayed against the border with India, but the U.S. invasion route would actually pass through many of Pakistan’s forward-deployed forces. While U.S. forces would be qualitatively superior, it would be a grinding fight that could be interrupted at any time by Pakistani nuclear weapons.

Of course, there is one regional power that can provide everything the U.S. needs, including local air bases and a large army, navy, and air force, already positioned in the theater with well-sketched battle plans: India. India could help with an air campaign, providing runways for U.S. fighter bombers to operate from, or even contribute its own airpower. Indian ground forces have a far shorter route to Islamabad and overmatch Pakistani forces on the ground.

The question is whether or not India would join a U.S.-led coalition against Pakistan. India has seldom cooperated with the United States in military operations, declining to send troops to Iraq and Afghanistan, among others. India’s cooperation would largely depend on the circumstance, the most likely being the U.S. joining an Indian-led coalition against Pakistan.

Another power that could join such a conflict is China. China and Pakistan enjoy warm relations, and the rhetoric between the two countries suggests a relationship nearing that of a mutual defense pact. But it isn’t, and it’s not clear that China would risk direct conflict with the United States if Pakistan in some way overreached. China might, on the assumption that a U.S. puppet state in neighboring Pakistan would diminish China’s power and influence abroad. It’s worth remembering that the last time Chinese forces fought Americans was after the U.S.-led United Nations forces advanced into a state neighboring Beijing.

A U.S. war with Pakistan would be extremely difficult to wage and fraught with difficulty. It would also be forced to proceed under the assumption that some Pakistani nuclear weapons would survive a sustained effort to destroy them, to be used against U.S. forces or targets in some way later in the campaign. This is the sort of uncertainty that can veto military action and makes a war between Washington and Islamabad an absolute conflict of last resort.

Source: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/what-would-hypothetical-us-pakistan-war-look-141072


Seems they are upset… after losing in Afghanistan they are looking for tonic relief.


the question is US even afford another war ?…

Perhaps they should try invading Cuba … I am sure they can find a nuke program going on there
NO, the fact is if Pakistan took the actions against the Taliban and went to fight against them inside own territory because US told,

The Bush administration threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" after the September 11 attacks if the country did not cooperate with America's war on Afghanistan, it emerged yesterday.

So, the fact is no comparison with or without Nuclear bombs.

Man you have the analytical capability of a tape recorder..

So what reason you will have to wage war ?..

none.

but if you attack Pakistan on lies or for no reason every weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal will be used and call to Jihad will be raised and as india found out on 2019 Pakistan is un afraid to fight a enemy times it’s size.

the question are you will to stomach the losses ? Including india who will be helping US.

this debate is stupid because you will lose.
 
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20 years ago Pakistan and this pakistan is completely different.. Pakistan is a young country just 70 years old and it was around 50 something 20 years ago.. Pakistan has matured and a different emerging Pakistan. Muzarraf's decision was the right decision within it's timing. Pakistan is 100 times stronger today than it was 20 years back. Nations just automatically keep growing

Next generation Pakistan will say the same after 20 years later that we are 200℅ strong then 2021, and Pakistan is completely different compared to 2021 but situation will be remain the same.
 
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So, the fact is no comparison with or without Nuclear bombs.

Pakistan SF is in para with rest of the world, and general Pakistan has better infantry than US.

with 200M people and if a call to jihad is raised by the COAS millions of men will be mobilized…it takes 8 weeks to train a conscript soldier..and if at least 5 million are called up it is pretty much game over for the US.
 
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Next generation Pakistan will say the same after 20 years later that we are 200℅ strong then 2021, and Pakistan is completely different compared to 2021 but situation will be remain the same.

I know you will like that but that is just not how things work and besides shouldn't you be busy building temples for your new GOD the US... There is no GOD on earth just saying GOD is the only invincible entity
 
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Next generation Pakistan will say the same after 20 years later that we are 200℅ strong then 2021, and Pakistan is completely different compared to 2021 but situation will be remain the same.

No..

China will be able to replace air losses and depending on situation Russia could supply additional aircraft.

as long as PAF around US will make little gains…
 
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Seems they are upset… after losing in Afghanistan they are looking for tonic relief.


the question is US even afford another war ?…

Perhaps they should try invading Cuba … I am sure they can find a nuke program going on there


Man you have the analytical capability of a tape recorder..

So what reason you will have to wage war ?..

none.

but if you attack Pakistan on lies or for no reason every weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal will be used and call to Jihad will be raised and as india found out on 2019 Pakistan is un afraid to fight a enemy times it’s size.

the question are you will to stomach the losses ? Including india who will be helping US.

this debate is stupid because you will lose.

It is about comparison between US and Pakistan?

So nothing has changed if you asked to any thrid country. Pakistan missiles will not able to reach US but only US Navy is enough for Pakistan if you ask..
Ohio-class submarine is more than enough.
No..

China will be able to replace air losses and depending on situation Russia could supply additional aircraft.

as long as PAF around US will make little gains…

Again china? Common man!!!

All just about may be Or may be not..
 
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Seems they are upset… after losing in Afghanistan they are looking for tonic relief.

The article is from more than a year ago.. from early 2020. An old article
 
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