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So Pakistan Defense Forums has been online since 2005 they was an earlier version made in 2002 but can the old timers tell how was it like back in the 2000s I been lurking here since like 2011 been online here since like 2018, would you guys say the quality of posts and discussion were better when it started and is the forum also the future of the forum as well how will PDF manage to exist in the next decade Mods please pitch in your thoughts
 
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Whenever someone opens/comments on an old thread, I always find almost all the commenters to be good and well versed on a topic they are commenting on. None of them had any 'thanks' probably because this feature wasn't available back in the days. Half of the posters never show up again(now) and other half are permanently banned which I always wonder why?
 
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So Pakistan Defense Forums has been online since 2005 they was an earlier version made in 2002 but can the old timers tell how was it like back in the 2000s I been lurking here since like 2011 been online here since like 2018, would you guys say the quality of posts and discussion were better when it started and is the forum also the future of the forum as well how will PDF manage to exist in the next decade Mods please pitch in your thoughts

It was beautiful.

Having come in from PTH, I was used to writing long notes, and some of my posts spanned three or four pages, AND THEY WERE READ! Accurately, meticulously, intelligently read. What I got in terms of response was awesome; there were other Pakistani fora that were slightly ahead in terms of individual intellectual power, but this offered a range and a breadth of opinion that just blew away the few of us who were participating from India.

There was no lack of patriotic zeal, but there was always an innate courtesy, that has become associated in my mind with the properly educated Pakistani, who, even under pressure, manages to clothe his thoughts in elegant form. I have no idea where they went; only a handful are left. Many have changed names, and done that so often that it is difficult to spot them as the same people.

Then came the deluge. That was probably 2012 onwards, maybe a year earlier, and the Internet Hindu was born and came charging in. PDF never recovered; even though there came a phase of harsher supervision, and Pakistani reaction to the muck that was floating around, and even though many middle-of-the-road Indian members left, the other side of this dismal development has stayed on. Instead of the khaki chaddi, the green chaddi holds sway, and without much rebuke or disciplining.

Life goes on.
 
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I joined this forum to learn something about Pakistan and its defense related issues. I don't take part in discussion because I am more interested in learning and understanding and also defense is not my stronghold. Joined this forum in 2009, after visiting as guest for 2 years. so, you can say, have been there for last 12 years. @Joe Shearer has nicely explained, how the forum used to be in those days. I mean you could do your PHD by just going through the lengthy discussion on Kashmir conflict. Mods were ruthless, even words like "'wet dream" were not tolerated.
Indians came with some knowledge and brought diversity to the forum.
Many times in past, this forum was cited by some other sites as '"Think Tank" of Pakistani defense.
It was well respected place, for chit-chat we were advised to join another forum (i wont name it:-)).
 
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It was beautiful.

Having come in from PTH, I was used to writing long notes, and some of my posts spanned three or four pages, AND THEY WERE READ! Accurately, meticulously, intelligently read. What I got in terms of response was awesome; there were other Pakistani fora that were slightly ahead in terms of individual intellectual power, but this offered a range and a breadth of opinion that just blew away the few of us who were participating from India.

There was no lack of patriotic zeal, but there was always an innate courtesy, that has become associated in my mind with the properly educated Pakistani, who, even under pressure, manages to clothe his thoughts in elegant form. I have no idea where they went; only a handful are left. Many have changed names, and done that so often that it is difficult to spot them as the same people.

Then came the deluge. That was probably 2012 onwards, maybe a year earlier, and the Internet Hindu was born and came charging in. PDF never recovered; even though there came a phase of harsher supervision, and Pakistani reaction to the muck that was floating around, and even though many middle-of-the-road Indian members left, the other side of this dismal development has stayed on. Instead of the khaki chaddi, the green chaddi holds sway, and without much rebuke or disciplining.

Life goes on.
Very appropriately articulated and yes, that's the jist of it.

Been here since the past 19 or so years, Had different ID during pre-2008 period.
 
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The religious needle was always there.

Indians were still interested in engaging academically on Kashmir.

The religious nutjobs had not yet discovered this place.

There was more USA.

There was much less China.

There was hardly any Bangladesh or the Middle East (except for Israel weeping).

Both sides spoke much more fluent English.

@Joe Shearer @Oscar @jbgt90 @waz @lastofthepatriots @VCheng @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Chinese-Dragon @gambit @TruthSeeker

Cheers, Doc

Nostalgia is good, but I'd rather improve what it has become now, and where it is headed in the future. The past is only in the rear-view mirror.
 
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Nostalgia is good, but I'd rather improve what it has become now, and where it is headed in the future. The past is only in the rear-view mirror.

You are literally a cuckold and have one foot in the grave. What does anything you say matter? You are like Hussain Haqqani on steroids for the forum.
 
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Nostalgia is good, but I'd rather improve what it has become now, and where it is headed in the future. The past is only in the rear-view mirror.

So do suggest what you feel is needed for the future.

Or where you see it in the future.

Say anything man. Your passive aggressiveness is very 2016 now. :D

Cheers, Doc
 
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So do suggest what you feel is needed for the future.

Or where you see it in the future.

Say anything man. Your passive aggressiveness is very 2016 now. :D

Cheers, Doc

Its future is surely going to be determined by the policies set by the management and the actions taken to implement them. The trends are already clear.
 
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