What was brought down by the AMRAAM fragment shown by IAF chief ?

[pakdefender]

Indian Air force chief paraded an AMRAAM shell in the press conference

Some details to consider

1. Abhinandan's Mig-21 was shot down over Azad Kashmir and his aircraft wreckage fell in Pakistani controlled territory, the fragments of the missile that struck his plane would have fallen in Azad Kashmir as well.

2. The AMRAAM shell that the Indian chief is holding was recovered some where from Indian controlled territory

3. This indirectly confirms that this AMRAAM struck another target , apart from Abhinandan's Mig-21, over Indian occupied Kashmir and brought is down

The question then is what was brought down by this AMRAAM (it was not Abhinadan Mig-21 for sure )

Are they admitting that they had more than one air-to-air loss that day

 

[Pukhtoon]

Indian Air force chief paraded an AMRAAM shell in the press conference

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Some details to consider

1. Abhinandan's Mig-21 was shot down over Azad Kashmir and his aircraft wreckage fell in Pakistani controlled territory, the fragments of the missile that struck his plane would have fallen in Azad Kashmir as well.

2. The AMRAAM shell that the Indian chief is holding was recovered from Indian controlled territory

3. This confirms that the AMRAAM struck a target over Indian occupied Kashmir and brought is down

The question then is what was brought down by this AMRAAM (it was not Abhinadan Mig-21 for sure ) ? given that the fragment was recovered from Indian territory

Their Ego.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Indian Air force chief paraded an AMRAAM shell in the press conference

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Some details to consider

1. Abhinandan's Mig-21 was shot down over Azad Kashmir and his aircraft wreckage fell in Pakistani controlled territory, the fragments of the missile that struck his plane would have fallen in Azad Kashmir as well.

2. The AMRAAM shell that the Indian chief is holding was recovered some where from Indian controlled territory

3. This indirectly confirms that this AMRAAM struck another target , apart from Abhinandan's Mig-21, over Indian occupied Kashmir and brought is down

The question then is what was brought down by this AMRAAM (it was not Abhinadan Mig-21 for sure )

Are they admitting that they had more than one air-to-air loss that day

The air force chief looks like he used too much poppy straight out of Afghanistan.

 

[GumNaam]

incidentally, what aircraft is this? this picture came only in the last 3 days after we shot down the indian jets and it aint the one that fell on our side, not the mig21, that's for sure...

 

[Suff Shikan]

incidentally, what aircraft is this? this picture came only in the last 3 days after we shot down the indian jets and it aint the one that fell on our side, not the mig21, that's for sure...
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Tis image is of BAE Hawk i think and its not of 27th Feb

 

[Skyliner]

incidentally, what aircraft is this? this picture came only in the last 3 days after we shot down the indian jets and it aint the one that fell on our side, not the mig21, that's for sure...
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IAF trainer jet hawk.

 

[GumNaam]

IAF trainer jet hawk.

Tis image is of BAE Hawk i think and its not of 27th Feb

ah...gotcha.

 

[Super Falcon]

They found only AMRAAM sheel and F 16 where it is which they claim shotdown

This sheel of AMRAAM raytheon sell agreement shows sold to taiwan

 

[Taha Samad]

So here is my theory:

- F-16s were not involved in the Air Strikes itself. Mirages and JF-17s may have carried those out.
- PAF stationed formations of both F-16 and JF-17 well inside Pakistan territory to prevent any hot-pursuit by IAF.
- The strike package was not to cross LOC as per plan; but few aircraft(s) may have done minor airspace violation inadvertently.
- The strike package delivered its payload and exited safely.
- The IAF chased the strike package and crossed LOC. The F-16 fired BVR at SU-30/Mirage 2000 and JF-17 fired BVR at Mig-21.
- IAF is embarrassed to admit its second loss of SU-30 and but instead is complaining about F-16s to US. This is why they displayed AIM-120 to public.
- If AIM-120C5 was not PAF, DG ISPR would have done a press conference very next day that xyz serial number is not in our inventory. So this silence tells you something.
- PAF is worried about US sanctions; cause this may have been evaluated as violation of end-user agreement. Legal agreement always have general terminology with room for interpretation. Example: "that PAF will not use it for offensive operations against another country till full scale war/hostilities breaks out etc". So its my interpretation vs yours. PAF may say that the F-16 were their to defend Pakistani Airspace so its defensive; but that airspace violation came as result PAF airstrike so it can be considered to be part of larger offensive mission.
- This will explain why you do not know the name of other Wing Commander. PAF is probably waiting for things to cool-off and then they will confirm the name of pilot who was awarded the kill and may even hint at the type aircraft it shotdown.

 

[sparten]

Who cares. It’s not like the US is selling us stuff these days anyway.

 

[Vapnope]

Modi's Pants...

 

[hunter_hunted]

incidentally, what aircraft is this? this picture came only in the last 3 days after we shot down the indian jets and it aint the one that fell on our side, not the mig21, that's for sure...
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Look people surrounding it . it is definitely not kashmir

 

[salman-1]

Some rumours are being confirmed now that we shot 1 Mig 21, 1 Su 30 and a Hawk as well. The Mi 17 was there own missile kill. The unknown wing commander did the hunt on his F16s. I don't know why it's being kept hidden, may be American pressure as USA wants to sell F21 project as for F16s.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

incidentally, what aircraft is this? this picture came only in the last 3 days after we shot down the indian jets and it aint the one that fell on our side, not the mig21, that's for sure...
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BAE Hawk Trainer. Notice the Vertical Stabilizer and Tail Design.

 

[Taha Samad]

So here is my theory:

- F-16s were not involved in the Air Strikes itself. Mirages and JF-17s may have carried those out.
- PAF stationed formations of both F-16 and JF-17 well inside Pakistan territory to prevent any hot-pursuit by IAF.
- The strike package was not to cross LOC as per plan; but few aircraft(s) may have done minor airspace violation inadvertently.
- The strike package delivered its payload and exited safely.
- The IAF chased the strike package and crossed LOC. The F-16 fired BVR at SU-30/Mirage 2000 and JF-17 fired BVR at Mig-21.
- IAF is embarrassed to admit its second loss of SU-30 and but instead is complaining about F-16s to US. This is why they displayed AIM-120 to public.
- If AIM-120C5 was not PAF, DG ISPR would have done a press conference very next day that xyz serial number is not in our inventory. So this silence tells you something.
- PAF is worried about US sanctions; cause this may have been evaluated as violation of end-user agreement. Legal agreement always have general terminology with room for interpretation. Example: "that PAF will not use it for offensive operations against another country till full scale war/hostilities breaks out etc". So its my interpretation vs yours. PAF may say that the F-16 were their to defend Pakistani Airspace so its defensive; but that airspace violation came as result PAF airstrike so it can be considered to be part of larger offensive mission.
- This will explain why you do not know the name of other Wing Commander. PAF is probably waiting for things to cool-off and then they will confirm the name of pilot who was awarded the kill and may even hint at the type aircraft it shotdown.

@Bilal Khan 777 , sir any comment on the theory above. The silence of DG ISPR since that day is confusing to say the least. But I think the way things are, we may have to wait till at least 23rd March or 14th Aug to get a confirmation.

Some rumours are being confirmed now that we shot 1 Mig 21, 1 Su 30 and a Hawk as well. The Mi 17 was there own missile kill. The unknown wing commander did the hunt on his F16s. I don't know why it's being kept hidden, may be American pressure as USA wants to sell F21 project as for F16s.

If anything F-16 shooting down SU-30, will be great selling point for LM. Its probably PAF not wanting to invite US sanctions. We are not buying stuff from them. But need to maintain these for another 10 years. That won't be possible in presence of US sanctions.