What US can do if China dumps its debt

[gambit]

Good question and so good reasons made me have no courage to ask why communism was abolished in America?

There are several ways to reject a political ideology. The quickest is by force, as in governmental force, by seeking out adherents and remove them from society. The slower method is by counter arguments, as in the battle of ideas in the arena of rhetorics. Despite McCarthyism which was quite short lived, communism in America was not so much 'abolished' as it was successfully challenged in the arena of rhetorics.

 

[Tractor]

The paradoxes of the Communist state

1. Nobody works, but the plan is always fulfilled.

2. The plan is fulfilled, but the shelves in the stores are empty.

3. The shelves are empty, but nobody starves.

4. Nobody starves, but everybody is unhappy.

5. Everybody is unhappy, but nobody complains.

6. Nobody complains, but the jails are full.

So at last some one break the jail and let capitalism back.

 

[Thomas]

I do not know how to understand the freedom of Americans.
Do Americans believe that freedom is only a slogan and votes?

Let me tell you how to understand the freedom of Chinese people.
1# The most important freedom is the freedom of thought. Whether you are a communist or capitalist, you can not say that the other is wrong. You can not force someone to like you thought.
2# You have freedom, Premise that can not interfere with the freedom of others.

Chinese re-education camps fly in the face of those two points. There are many people in them who spoke out agianst the government on issues. Or gathered to worship God in their homes rather then "Official Government Churches". Start criticizing the Government about corruption and see how long it takes for the police to knock on your door. Yes there may be laws to allow such things. But those laws are there simply for one thing to exert control over the masses. And allow the Governemnt to stop dissent agianst the communist party.

 

[cross1993]

Are you sure that prisoners in China more than the USA?

China have both communism and capitalism now.
This is the Chinese people's gray. Not white, Not black.

 

[Dharmocol]

^^^now that was funny

 

[cross1993]

Chinese re-education camps fly in the face of those two points. There are many people in them who spoke out agianst the government on issues. Or gathered to worship God in their homes rather then "Official Government Churches". Start criticizing the Government about corruption and see how long it takes for the police to knock on your door. Yes there may be laws to allow such things. But those laws are there simply for one thing to exert control over the masses. And allow the Governemnt to stop dissent agianst the communist party.

Lol.... Your comments just proves you do not understand China.
Just proves that America's propaganda to demonize China. That is brainwashing.

Listen to me:
I am opposed to communism, I hate corruption.
Price made too quickly. F*U*C*K Hu Jintao.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The paradoxes of the Communist state

1. Nobody works, but the plan is always fulfilled.

2. The plan is fulfilled, but the shelves in the stores are empty.

3. The shelves are empty, but nobody starves.

4. Nobody starves, but everybody is unhappy.

5. Everybody is unhappy, but nobody complains.

6. Nobody complains, but the jails are full.

Except that it is actually America that has the biggest prison population in the world.

The United States of America has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Though home to a little less than 5% of the world’s population, the US holds 25% of the world’s prisoners.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Original source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/us/23prison.html?_r=1

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Also, VCheng, do you find it wrong that your country of origin is allied to a "Communist state"... and your country of adoption is in an economic partnership with a "Communist state"?

 

[gambit]

Except that it is actually America that has the biggest prison population in the world.

How many of them are political prisoners? That is the context of the joke.

 

[Thomas]

Falun Gong is a cult. And it's funded by the USA government.
I suggest you go look at the Falun Gong website. You'll understand why...

At one time the Chinese Government considered Fulan Gong to be ok. It was when they started to attract so many people that Government began to panic and label them a cult.

There are organizations here in the U.S. I consider to be a cult. But that doesn't mean it would be ok to arrest and put them in prison for their beliefs. Why? Because it would be promoting intolerance. And denying them a basic human right of freedom of expression and worship. The exception to that would be if they promote crimes against other people or physical harm to it's members.

If the Communist party really did value human expression and free speech. They would stop sending political prisoners to the re-education camps, allow people to worship God in their homes, and stop persecuting the Fulan Gong.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If the Communist party really did value human expression and free speech. They would stop sending political prisoners to the camps, allow people to worship God in their homes, and stop persecuting the Fulan Gong.

The priorities are like this: Food+water -> Stability+security -> Economic opportunities -> Opportunities for self-actualization.

"Free speech" doesn't rank that highly, although if you notice... one of our Chinese members isn't a big fan of Hu Jintao (putting it lightly) and that is perfectly fine.

 

[anon45]

You are the typical American.

PS: I am not a Communist, nor believe in communism. But I do not oppose the communists who believe.
Everyone has the freedom to choose values, As long as it does not prevent others.

There is also value in disagreement and argument of values, albeit peacefully.

 

[gambit]

The priorities are like this: Food+water -> Stability+security -> Economic opportunities -> Opportunities for self-actualization.

Other countries achieved those much quicker without communism. That proved China made a huge mistake. Ya think?

 

[anon45]

Good question and so good reasons made me have no courage to ask why communism was abolished in America?

It wasn't, do you want to see their website?

Home cpusa

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Other countries achieved those much quicker without communism. That proved China made a huge mistake. Ya think?

Not really.

Democracy is great when it exists in "developed" countries like those in Europe (Switzerland etc.) and in East Asia (Japan etc).

However, how does it fare, in large "developing countries"?

Some examples: Nigeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, South Africa, etc.

The closest example you can get of a developing country that is of a similar "size" to China, is India. Yet China is now the 2nd largest economy on Earth and India isn't even in the top ten largest economies. Even though we started from the same place, China's economy is four times bigger than India's and growing faster too.

That is not necessarily a failure of democracy, but a failure to apply democracy to developing nations.