what shall we do with afghanistan?????

[tarrar]

why? thats not in our interests… having india in afghanistan will destabilize our country so we need to do more to curb your presence in that country.


i think we need payback these guys for every drop of pakistani blood that was spilled because of them… don't you think?

India is already present in Afghanistan & they are helping rented terrorists in every possible way, specially they are fully helping rented terrorists in Balochistan province.

 

[A.Rafay]

@MastanKhan Can you elaborate your choice? What kind of an alliance do you think can happen between Pak and Afghan?

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

Nothing, You have already done a great damage to this nation. Now leave it alone please.

 

[suresh1773]

India is already present in Afghanistan & they are helping rented terrorists in every possible way, specially they are fully helping rented terrorists in Balochistan province.

Apples & oranges,the Baloch problem has been going on right from 1947.At that time there was no Indian Embassy,no RAW,No CIA,No KGB,No Taliban.More then 5 wars have been fought in Balochistan. Are Indains coming to Balochistan fro kidnapping,torture & killing of Baloch activists.About Indian embasies,they were constructed in 2008 after the Northern Alliance came to power. Before that the Taliban were ruling 90% of Afghanistan.It seems to me that suddenly one day Pakistan discovered the presence of RAW in AFghanistan. Are indians responsible for the current mess in Pakistan whether it is sectarian or political voilence in Karachi,Isalmabad(Qadri,Altaf).People who live with guns die with guns.

 

[Owl of Abott]

as we all know by now that our neighboring country is harboring terrorists who are doing all these bombings in pakistan..
after operation zarb e azb comes to a stop what shall we do with afghanistan?
they are clearly harboring our enemies and even opened up our back yard to our old nemesis "india"..
their government is hostile and increasingly their population is also hostile to pakistanis.

so I'm asking you guys what shall we make of these guys?
what will the army do?
any inside info on our plans to deal with afghanistan? plz share it here.

also what shall pakistan do with between the darri and pathans, shall we make them fight and support the pathans as usual?

the important question:
what shall pakistan do abut the indian presence in afghanistan?
how much indian presence shall pakistan tolerate?

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simply one thing!we help taliban to remove this karzai regime from kabul since they are anti-pakistan,and taliban never harboured our enemies when they ruled afghanistan,supporting taliban is our only choice.

 

[suresh1773]

simply one thing!we help taliban to remove this karzai regime from kabul since they are anti-pakistan,and taliban never harboured our enemies when they ruled afghanistan,supporting taliban is our only choice.

What about the mess & the shit created by Taliban inside Pakistan

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

simply one thing!we help taliban to remove this karzai regime from kabul since they are anti-pakistan,and taliban never harboured our enemies when they ruled afghanistan,supporting taliban is our only choice.

This is naive approach, people in pakistan should try to understand the demographic and ethnical divide in afghanistan and how relying only on pashtun taliban is damaging pakistan's interests in afghanistan. Pakistan should try to look for friends and allies among all ethnicities of afghanistan that are willing to cooperate with us after some give and take.

What about the mess & the shit created by Taliban inside Pakistan

We have found a big sympathiser of pakistan from across the border in india

 

[Aepsilons]

A regional alliance. This is an opportunity for Pakistan to take the reigns !

What about the mess & the shit created by Taliban inside Pakistan

The more the reason for Pakistan to form a military alliance with Afghanistan. Perhaps, with this, Pakistani Army / Special Forces can work together with Afghanistan to rout Taliban inside Afghanistan. Joint military cooperation between both Pakistan and Afghanistan can strengthen interoperability and stability.

 

[Owl of Abott]

This is naive approach, people in pakistan should try to understand the demographic and ethnical divide in afghanistan and how relying only on pashtun taliban is damaging pakistan's interests in afghanistan. Pakistan should try to look for friends and allies among all ethnicities of afghanistan that are willing to cooperate with us after some give and take.



We have found a big sympathiser of pakistan from across the border in india

we have no other choice,and plus taliban are not a single force,the haqqanis and hizb-e-islami group are separate from taliban,atleast an afghanistan under taliban would be notionally pro-pakistan and they won,t let america use afghanistan as a terror base to support our enemies.

our real enemy is america not india.

What about the mess & the shit created by Taliban inside Pakistan

the pakistani taliban are a totally different group from the afghan taliban,infact the afghan taliban have said themselves that they have nothing to do with pakistani ntaliban.TTP was a group manufactured by america to conduct terror operations within pakistan.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

we have no other choice,and plus taliban are not a single force,the haqqanis and hizb-e-islami group are separate from taliban,atleast an afghanistan under taliban would be notionally pro-pakistan and they won,t let america use afghanistan as a terror base to support our enemies.

You are naive as far as your knowledge about afghanistan is concerned , all these afghan taliban and haqqani, hikmatyar are from pashtun ethnicity and favoring only one ethnicity in a highly divided multi-ethnical afghanistan has brought the disaster which we are witnessing since past many years. Pakistani establishment has learnt it and I am sure their game plan for future is going to be different where paksitan must reach out to all ethnicities in afghanistan to look for new possible friends and allies, this is not a static world one has to change the game plan according to the current needs.

 

[nair]

Afghanistan is one of the most unpredictable country and I dont think anyone can predict the exact state of afghanistan 4 years from now..... God knows which way they go once US troops leave Afghanistan........

A stable Afghanistan is in the interest of Both India and Pakistan...... More to Pakistan as the boarder they share is big and there is lot of cultural similarities in bordering areas....I think over a period of time Pakistan has gone back from their plan of "Strategic Depth"

Well the mistrust India and pakistan have towards each other will make things tough for both the countries.... It will be more tough to India as there are terrorists who are pro pakistan....

I hope Afghanistan becomes a stable nation.......That is what i voted for

 

[Owl of Abott]

You are naive as far as your knowledge about afghanistan is concerned , all these afghan taliban and haqqani, hikmatyar are from pashtun ethnicity and favoring only one ethnicity in a highly divided multi-ethnical afghanistan has brought the disaster which we are witnessing since past many years. Pakistani establishment has learnt it and I am sure their game plan for future is going to be different where paksitan must reach out to all ethnicities in afghanistan to look for new possible friends and allies, this is not a static world one has to change the game plan according to the current needs.

taliban were able to buy out a lot of leaders and warlords from the northern alliance who agreed to join them,this would happen again so we don,t need to think about other communities at all,since it is the taliban,s job.although pakistan should reach out to all the communities but they won,t.

 

[suresh1773]

We have found a big sympathiser of pakistan from across the border in india

People who live with guns die with guns.Who created the Taliban in the first place. Are Indians responsible for the sectarian & political voilence (Qadri,Altaf Huessin).Are Indians responsible for the increasing crime, terrible law & order in Pakistan.

Reminds me of Newton's 3rd law of motion.

I am not a sympathiser of Pakistan in any way.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

People who live with guns die with guns.Who created the Taliban in the first place. Are Indians responsible for the sectarian & political voilence (Qadri,Altaf Huessin).Are Indians responsible for the increasing crime, terrible law & order in Pakistan.

Reminds me of Newton's 3rd law of motion.

I am not a sympathiser of Pakistan in any way.

It is matter of honour for those people.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

as we all know by now that our neighboring country is harboring terrorists who are doing all these bombings in pakistan..
after operation zarb e azb comes to a stop what shall we do with afghanistan?
they are clearly harboring our enemies and even opened up our back yard to our old nemesis "india"..
their government is hostile and increasingly their population is also hostile to pakistanis.

so I'm asking you guys what shall we make of these guys?
what will the army do?
any inside info on our plans to deal with afghanistan? plz share it here.

also what shall pakistan do with between the darri and pathans, shall we make them fight and support the pathans as usual?

the important question:
what shall pakistan do abut the indian presence in afghanistan?
how much indian presence shall pakistan tolerate?

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@Umair Nawaz @A.Rafay @Contrarian @nair @Nair saab @Marwat Khan Lodhi @Sher Malang

@FaujHistorian @Hyperion @Aeronaut @DESERT FIGHTER @KingMamba @Akheilos @Ravi Nair @dexter @Devil Soul @Zarvan @RAMPAGE

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Please see Afganistan as Nation not as strategic depth ..
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Pak and taliban - good or bad
Pak used taliban/terrorist against USSR and then against india as strategic asset...
Pak had formidamel clout in taliban in 9os era...
even plane hijacked of Indian airline been to kandhahar and we have to release some terrorist..
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
same terroist found in pak in muderd of danial peal...
Masood Azhar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
all these guys in pak ..courtesy Taliban...
so point is Taliban was used by pak establishment for thier benefit against India in afg...
not that wepon is killing people in pak...good or bad talib ... its same..
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hey are clearly harboring our enemies and even opened up our back yard to our old nemesis "india
can we interfer in pak as you ahve good relastion with china and we had war with you..on same logic?
Afg is independent country ruined by partly USSR then USA and then PAk...
if they getting help from india its their right and sovereignty ...
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India as enemy...
yes both country had war... btter realation...
please understand indians hate terrosiam not pak .. or people...
if you stop harbouring them.. thing will be diffrent...
i know hating india is imp paramerte for many organisation to exit in pak itself so its not so simple..
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their government is hostile and increasingly their population is also hostile to pakistanis.
see dichotomy..
pak provide many afgani people shelter .. still they hate you...
you are best judge why they do ?
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after operation zarb e azb comes to a stop what shall we do with afghanistan?
Zarb ops is just bandaid to big problem..
it may take care of terrorist from other side of border ..
but are they real cause of concern?
if afg is so much problem... make durand line wired like we did in kashmir...
much of the problem lies inside pak than outisde
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what will the army do?
army at ground have limited option...
either stop the or kill them
it will take more diplomatic work as there are many offshots of local leadership which need to be taken to table ..
army in pak have power to take call but international diplomacy need to be govt -either elcted or miilitary ..to handle it
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what shall pakistan do abut the indian presence in afghanistan?
what Pak can do positively .. to over ride india in works we do in afg .. in infra, health and other sector..
negativelty it can use bombing consulate like did in herat ...
Afg is indepedant nation so they need whoever who cna help them..
-can india say same thing for chinas presence in pak ..?
how much indian presence shall pakistan tolerate?
First its not pak right to decide who will be in afg or not..
its their leaders or local ledaership to decided who they want there
http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/can-india-fix-afghanistan/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Abdullah Abdullah (Afghanistan Presidential candidate) on Indian Standard Time - YouTube
Bay Laag 16th January 2014 Pakistan, India, Afghanistan Khittay Ki Surat e haal - YouTube
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@qamar1990
nice question.. basic but imp