What script does Languages in Pakistan use?

[Kompromat]

That's not true anymore, i'd say a vast majority of Pakistanis speak fluent Urdu but as a second/national language. I speak 4, most in my family are tri lingual.

Thank you both. I've been curious about it because I was shocked when someone posted that only about 8% of Pakistanis are fluent in Urdu, so I wondered how much commonality there might be between the languages used and where they got their alphabet, vocabulary, etc.

That's not true anymore, i'd say a vast majority of Pakistanis speak fluent Urdu but as a second/national language. I speak 4, most in my family are tri lingual.

Thank you both. I've been curious about it because I was shocked when someone posted that only about 8% of Pakistanis are fluent in Urdu, so I wondered how much commonality there might be between the languages used and where they got their alphabet, vocabulary, etc.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thank you both. I've been curious about it because I was shocked when someone posted that only about 8% of Pakistanis are fluent in Urdu, so I wondered how much commonality there might be between the languages used and where they got their alphabet, vocabulary, etc.

Not fluent. Its indigenous to 8% population (Urdu speaking migrants from India).


It is our national language.. So everybody can speak,write (since our scripts are similiar) and understand it... It unifies the country..

As for Persian .. Rough idea about what's being talked about.. Because of similiar words..

hindi can't speak,write (different scrip) or understand it (unless the speaker is using a bastardised version of hindi mixed with Urdu - still 50-60%) words,pronunciations,accent or whatever will be different)... Indians can't really pronounce Urdu even if they can speak or understand it..

 

[Kompromat]

That's not true anymore, i'd say a vast majority of Pakistanis speak fluent Urdu but as a second/national language. I speak 4, most in my family are tri lingual.

Thank you both. I've been curious about it because I was shocked when someone posted that only about 8% of Pakistanis are fluent in Urdu, so I wondered how much commonality there might be between the languages used and where they got their alphabet, vocabulary, etc.

@Desertfalcon - My favorite script is Nastalique.

 

[Zibago]

لو جی نیاتماشا

 

[WAJsal]

Thank you both. I've been curious about it because I was shocked when someone posted that only about 8% of Pakistanis are fluent in Urdu, so I wondered how much commonality there might be between the languages used and where they got their alphabet, vocabulary, etc.

That is highly incorrect, i come from a remote area, almost every one speaks Urdu and even some basic English for the tourists. Basic language used for communication are the local ones, but Urdu is commonly spoken and known.

Thats why i hate urdu, i think we should have make hindko, Gilgati or any other non major language from Pakistan with their script as our National language..

Urdu is imposed on us by early Muhajir elite, its shame that we use a National language which is not our.

5-6 languages are spoken in Gilgit, Brushiki, Shina, Khowar, Waki, Balti... Urdu is the best option, it became our identity and we had to adopt it. What exactly is your point?

 

[dadeechi]

That figure is quite wrong nearly all Pakistani (educated at least primary) can speak and understand Urdu. Fun fact is that our Punjabi language is quite close to Urdu and many mix words of Punjabi in Urdu and we call it Gulabi Urdu.

Not fluent. Its indigenous to 8% population (Urdu speaking migrants from India).


It is our national language.. So everybody can speak,write (since our scripts are similiar) and understand it... It unifies the country..

As for Persian .. Rough idea about what's being talked about.. Because of similiar words..

hindi can't speak,write (different scrip) or understand it (unless the speaker is using a bastardised version of hindi mixed with Urdu - still 50-60%) words,pronunciations,accent or whatever will be different)... Indians can't really pronounce Urdu even if they can speak or understand it..

I think the intermingling is in part due to the Bollywood movies which had predominantly consisted of Urdu writers and Punjabi Producers/Actors.

Are Lollywood movies created in Urdu only? Do you have any other local movies shot in Sindhi or Punjabi?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think the intermingling is in part due to the Bollywood movies which had predominantly consisted of Urdu writers and Punjabi Producers/Actors.

Are Lollywood movies created in Urdu only? Do you have any other local movies shot in Sindhi or Punjabi?

Yes we have regional cinema .. But it lacks quality ...

 

[Max]

That is highly incorrect, i come from a remote area, almost every one speaks Urdu and even some basic English for the tourists. Basic language used for communication are the local ones, but Urdu is commonly spoken and known.

5-6 languages are spoken in Gilgit, Brushiki, Shina, Khowar, Waki, Balti... Urdu is the best option, it became our identity and we had to adopt it. What exactly is your point?

Ok, forget about Gilgati languages, what about hindko?
Its from KPK, whoever know punjabi can understand it, i am against Urdu bcoz its foreign (indian) language with borrowed words from farsi and have foreign (farsi) script. what about our own regional languages? Why Nation of 200 million need a borrowed language?

Btw i agree that initialy we need urdu to unite all groups, but we should now look for our own language.

 

[Armstrong]

Are the languages similar? If you speak Urdu, can you understand much Persian?

Urdu borrows its vocabulary heavily from Persian and its grammar from Sanskrit; throw in some of the more local languages and you've essentially got a rich and diverse language that borrows bits and pieces from every language its come into contact with.

So you can understand a word here and there if Persian is being spoken but mostly you can't figure out the gist of the sentence being spoken. But yup if you can read Urdu you can read Persian.

Fun Fact : Our National Anthem is in Persian; 'cause Persian was the language of the literary elite (and before that the political elite) in the Indian Subcontinent. A little like how French was spoken by the aristocracy in Prussia while German was spoken and written by the common man.

And Urdu and Hindi are mutually understandable like Norwegian and Swedish !

 

[WAJsal]

Ok, forget about Gilgati languages, what about hindko?
Its from KPK, whoever know punjabi can understand it, i am against Urdu bcoz its foreign (indian) language with borrowed words from farsi and have foreign (farsi) script. what about our own regional languages? Why Nation of 200 million need a borrowed language?

Btw i agree that initialy we need urdu to unite all groups, but we should now look for our own language.

Why impose Hindko on Punjabis or the Sindhis? they are the majority? why not Punjabi. Your debate is incorrect. Urdu is our recognition, and we had to adopt it. Language problems are long solved after 67 years.

Btw i agree that initialy we need urdu to unite all groups, but we should now look for our own language.

Urdu is our language.

 

[Max]

Why impose Hindko on Punjabis or the Sindhis? they are the majority? why not Punjabi. Your debate is incorrect. Urdu is our recognition, and we had to adopt it. Language problems are long solved after 67 years.

Urdu is our language.

Urdu is Indian Muslims language, it was born in ganga valley, not in our land.

Once dari, sanskrit and other languages were too our recognition. but we rejected them for new languages.

I didnt suggest major languages like Punjabi, sindhi, pashto, balochi bcoz it can lead to divide among major ethnic groups. We can agree on any non major language though.

 

[Spectre]

Urdu borrows its vocabulary heavily from Persian and its grammar from Sanskrit; throw in some of the more local languages and you've essentially got a rich and diverse language that borrows bits and pieces from every language its come into contact with.

So you can understand a word here and there if Persian is being spoken but mostly you can't figure out the gist of the sentence being spoken. But yup if you can read Urdu you can read Persian.

Fun Fact : Our National Anthem is in Persian; 'cause Persian was the language of the literary elite (and before that the political elite) in the Indian Subcontinent. A little like how French was spoken by the aristocracy in Prussia while German was spoken and written by the common man.

And Urdu and Hindi are mutually understandable like Norwegian and Swedish !

Most accurate assessment of the linguistics in this thread

Spoken Urdu/Hindi allows a symbiotic (some would say parasitic) bridge between India and Pakistan. It allows for shared joys and sorrows of our common history to be continually refreshed.

I would wager that had Pakistan adopted Arabic dialects or the pure Persian ones then I dare say our people would have had a chance to break from the past and move on considering there is not much people to people exchanges between our two countries due to security concerns.

P.S. Just a wild hypothesis.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

A better subtitute would have been Persian.. It was the lingua Franca of modern day Pak before 47.

 

[dadeechi]

Most accurate assessment of the linguistics in this thread

Spoken Urdu/Hindi allows a symbiotic (some would say parasitic) bridge between India and Pakistan. It allows for shared joys and sorrows of our common history to be continually refreshed.

I would wager that had Pakistan adopted Arabic dialects or the pure Persian ones then I dare say our people would have had a chance to break from the past and move on considering there is not much people to people exchanges between our two countries due to security concerns.

P.S. Just a wild hypothesis.

True. Urdu and Hindi have ensured that the people on both sides of the border continue to remain closer.

 

[Desertfalcon]

That is highly incorrect, i come from a remote area, almost every one speaks Urdu and even some basic English for the tourists. Basic language used for communication are the local ones, but Urdu is commonly spoken and known.

I think that @DESERT FIGHTER pointed out where I went wrong. I must have seen a 8% figure for native speakers with no other native language, for Urdu. I suspected that it might not be accurate as I couldn't imagine how Urdu could be the national language if understood by so few Pakistanis. My bad...