What kind of video is it?

[sparklingway]

you guys should read Diaries of Field Marshal Ayub Khan

The annotated and edited ones that were released just a couple of years back and conveniently ignored '65 and were for the years '66-'72 ?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

The annotated and edited ones that were released just a couple of years back and conveniently ignored '65 and were for the years '66-'72 ?

read it just for the perspective...

not for actual information

most of it is just 4-liners and small paragraphs for each entry

 

[vandemataram]

when individual's like Mr. Sethi, Hassan Nissar and some other comment against pakistan My indian friends very quickly comment that this person is the one pakistani's must listen, excellent video, vise person.... .and and and .. . . . ..
but against Hamid Gul, Aslam Baig, Col: Imam, Zaid Hamid (specially) their most of the time flame the thread
Why??????/
i see it like this
that the person who speak in my favor is a wise person but the one against me is a fool, biased . . . .???

and to the video i Myself dont like few people and even dont like to watch their vid:
We must learn from our mistakes but not in that way to disgrace your nation, people, Leaders. this is totally wrong.
we have to accept the mistakes but just to not do it again to not repeat the same mistakes again.

Excuse me Sir, Mr. Sethi is one of the most prominent and mainstream media personalities in Pakistan along with Mr Nissar.

I know for one, he firmly believes that India is behind the BLA and the unrest in Balochistan and the same goes for Kashmir.

So in effect he is not pro India but he is being true to his salt; of unbiased journalism..

And may I know what do you have to say regarding Mr Pervez Hoodbhoy? Or for that matter ACM Asghar Khan??

Dont jump and proclaim that they are gaddars and that they should be tried for treason...

A sane voice, at the end of the day, is a sane voice...and the names that you have mentioned..well...you see what they have done to your country...

Thank you very much..

 

[vandemataram]

The whole thing started back when Jinnah declared Urdu as the national language recognizing the fact that Urdu was the only language spoken and understood throughout united Pakistan. Soon after his speech, the Bengalis recorded their protest and demanded that Bengali should also be made the national language while totally ignoring the fact that unlike Urdu, only handful of West Pakistanis could communicate in Bengali. This hyper-nationalistic view did not help the relations of East and West Pakistan and right from the very beginning, East Pakistanis lost sort of confidence among the West Pakistanis. Mind you that Pakistan had just come into being and fighting on petty issues such as national language was not perceived as good gesture on behalf of the Bengalis.

A lot of problems could have been avoided by simply granting the East Pakistan provincial autonomy but alas, it could not happen due to the shortsightedness of our leaders including Mr. Liaquat Ali Khan.

1. It was a forced decision to make Urdu the national language of East Pakistan. And contrary to what you say, Urdu was never a language which was known to the East Pakistanis. This was socially, culturally and politically impossible. There was no doubt that Urdu alone cannot be the language of the Dominion of Pakistan.

And the resolve of Mr Jinnah at the Jagannath Hall of the Dacca University stating that Urdu and Urdu alone is going to be the language of united Pakistan, nothing could hsve been more potentially disastrous.

Urdu till today is not widely written, spoken or understood in B'desh let alone between 50s and the 70s. There was no fact, other than uber nationalism propounded by Mr Jinnah to forego the language spoken by the majority of United Pakistan.


2. The voice of the Bengalis was complete moderation. They did not demand anything like replace Urdu with Bengali, but they wanted that both these languages be made the official languages of Pakistan and not the language of the elites - Urdu. You should have taken into consideration the moderate demand.

3. Even if the West Pakistanis could not comprehend Bengali you should have said that okay

"For all official communication in East Pak it is going to be Bengali and in West Pak it is going to be Urdu and during cross cultural/national level discussions we stick to English", it was very simple...

4. Even after so many years you have not realised that the ghetto that was created for Bengali and the speakers were the main reason behind this. The Bengalis worked and lived in silos it is as simple as that. And talking about nationalism it hasnt served your purpose even after so many years.

Bengalis were, are and will forever be nationalistic, as they have a culture (transcending religion mind you!!!) and a great history or literature and architecture and it was no way possible that you become blind to this and start propagating something which is self-serving and still got away with that.

There was a price to be paid and it was paid in full.

Thank you very much

 

[vandemataram]

you guys should read Diaries of Field Marshal Ayub Khan

Field Marshal?

Aka Archibald Wavell or Auchinleck?

I guess Ayub Khan is more than enough...

good luck....

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Field Marshal?

Aka Archibald Wavell or Auchinleck?

I guess Ayub Khan is more than enough...

good luck....

I think you're confused.



good luck with what?

 

[vandemataram]

I think you're confused.



good luck with what?

Confused with what?

The time and capability proven ranks of Field Marshals on these two guys or the self proclaimed/styled Field Marshal..

thanks

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

self-proclaimed



good luck?

 

[vandemataram]

self-proclaimed



good luck?

So you are contesting whether the rank was self styled or not?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

my God, are u kidding me.


did you really just misinterpret my four-word post??


move on....i give up.