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What is this Indo-Scythian peoples?Friends please clear my doubt

what is the difference between Scythians and Persians.?
No reliable information cant found from internet about the origin of Nair people in Kerala.

Scythians were people who roamed the vast Eurasian and Central Asian steppes. Persians and Scythians are both Iranic people. Persians themselves were invaders/migrants from Eurasian Steppes but had settled in modern day Iran and assimilated the local population. They also become more civilized and developed a sophisticated culture different from Scythians. Some Scythians did invade Northern India and were assimilated into local culture and religion. I read somewhere that many Punjabis specially Sikhs tend to have some genetic similarities with Scythians.
Modern day Ukraine may have been the home land of some of the Scythian tribes. Their descendants were later known as Sarmations or Alani/Ard Alani/Alans. Today they still exist and are known as Ossetians.
Another theory is that some of them may have migrated towards north eastern Europe and become the modern day Slavs. But this theory is not widely supported by academics. Maybe a small population of Sarmatians may have been absorbed into different eastern European population to make a Slavic stock.
 
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scythians were most probably a multi racial sub siberian tribal confederation stretching from ukrain to the pamir region. they r famous for building kurugans, burial mounds found all along this region. Have doubts whether jats and rajputs are their descendants since there has been minimal gene flow into the subcontinent since last few milinias.

Gene flow may happens.Rajputs and Sikhs are warriors.Nairs in Kerala also carry warrior background
 
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Scythians were people who roamed the vast Eurasian and Central Asian steppes. Persians and Scythians are both Iranic people. Persians themselves were invaders/migrants from Eurasian Steppes but had settled in modern day Iran and assimilated the local population. They also become more civilized and developed a sophisticated culture different from Scythians. Some Scythians did invade Northern India and were assimilated into local culture and religion. I read somewhere that many Punjabis specially Sikhs tend to have some genetic similarities with Scythians.
Modern day Ukraine may have been the home land of some of the Scythian tribes. Their descendants were later known as Sarmations or Alani/Ard Alani/Alans. Today they still exist and are known as Ossetians.
Another theory is that some of them may have migrated towards north eastern Europe and become the modern day Slavs. But this theory is not widely supported by academics. Maybe a small population of Sarmatians may have been absorbed into different eastern European population to make a Slavic stock.
i highly doubt that sikh jatts have any genetic similarity to the scythians. A lot of the paternal haplotypes amongst us are most probably subcontinental in origin. Scythian remains have shown R1a1 paternal haplotypes but i dont think the downstream markers r the same as R1a found in the subcontinent.

We are talking about Indo-Scythians, the descendants that mixed into the local population.
bro it is very difficult to ascertain whether their r any south asian descendants they might have.

Pushtun's ancestors were the Sakas a tribe of Scythians.
actually pashtun paternal haplotype frequency is quite similar to the ones found in Punjab.
 
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Can some one post a map of gene flow of Indo-Scythians ?.That may give a clear picture
 
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They ruled what would become North India and Pakistan, it is highly unlikely they had no descendants. Certain ethnic groups in India like Jats and Rajputs have some non continental genes.
Indo-Scythians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Indo-Scythians in Indian literature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They even had an impact on our literature.
thats true but until there r some further genetic studies it is difficult to ascertain. even the british ruled india but they hardly left anygenetic imprint on the indian population.
 
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What is this Indo-Scythian peoples?Can we find out the direct descendants of these ancient peoples in India ,Pakistan or any other places in South Asia?.Friends can you please clear my doubt?
@FaujHistorian, @kurup @DRAY @acetophenol@Indo-guy ,@jarves
They basically assimilated into the local populations of the area Especially among the Iranians and Pashtuns, but it is not far off to think that alot of them became a part of the local Indian Populations.
As far as i know East Iranian Saka tribes resembled them the Greatest and in the modern day The Pakhtoon "Sarkzai tribe" are perhaps their most pure(comparitive lineage(not sure if that is the right word for it).
Linguistically speaking Ossestian , Pashto are among the most similar to the language of Scythians.
Generally the East Iranic people are believed to be their descendants while a large portion of their population became a part of the Pashtoons as well.(btw i did not include details of other people just South Asia)
 
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what is the difference between Scythians and Persians.?
No reliable information cant found from internet about the origin of Nair people in Kerala.Some articles says they are from Nepal and some other says they are Indo-Scythians,But the facial features of Nairs and Nepalese are quite diffferent.But Indo-Scythians pure descendants can be found from Punjab and its area.like you mentioned jats ,rajputs etc

I don't think there is any authenticity of Nair originating from Nepal as during ancient times Nepal was inhabited by Tibeto-Burmese Kirata people. But as I mentioned, the high percentage of ANI(Ancestral North Indians) or Eurasian ancestry among South Indians clearly shows ancestry partly originating from North India through migration.
 
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Indians can't be pure Indo-Scytians because as its proven by latest genetic tests of Rajputs of Rajasthan, they have become Indo-Bhanghees. If Indo-Scytians are jats then there is only pure place left in South Asia where they live, the land of pure.

Results from Rajasthan rajputs genetics Harappadna.

S- Indian: 48%
Baloch: 35%
Caucasian: 5%
NE EURO: 4%

Yes these are results of Rajputs of rajasthan and not Bhils or what ever. Rajasthan bhils S-Indian is 67%. Rajputs of Rajhasthan have higher S-Indian then even dalits of Punjab.
 
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Indians can't be pure Indo-Scytians because as its proven by latest genetic tests of Rajputs of Rajasthan, they have become Indo-Bhanghees. If Indo-Scytians are jats then there is only pure place left in South Asia where they live, the land of pure.

Results from Rajasthan rajputs genetics Harappadna.

S- Indian: 48%
Baloch: 35%
Caucasian: 5%
NE EURO: 4%

Yes these are results of Rajputs of rajasthan and not Bhils or what ever. Rajasthan bhils S-Indian is 67%. Rajputs of Rajhasthan have higher S-Indian then even dalits of Punjab.
Lets see the source? Rajputs only make up 10% of Rajasthan so before continuing let's eye the source. You where claiming this on another thread and then when asked for a source you couldn't respond.:rofl:
@bandit
 
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One thing people have to understand is that when ever the invaders invaded large civilizations like India was that they were out numbered by the local population. Usually the invaders mixed with the ruling elite classes. So they did not make a huge difference in the genetic make up of the local population. Invaders eventually mixed with ruling classes and adopted the native cultures.
 
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Lets see the source? Rajputs only make up 10% of Rajasthan so before continuing let's eye the source. You where claiming this on another thread and then when asked for a source you couldn't respond.:rofl:
@bandit

I did some research. harappadna.org is the source. Rajasthan rajputs have 48% of south indian and bhils 67%, as one can see there is huge difference between the two. And you was right bhils are not like Rajputs. But rajhastani rajputs are like dalits of punjab.

There will be few rare cases where they didn't mix with tribals. Otherwise it looks like they did, not suprised since they make 10% of population.
 
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