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what is the top 10 Air Defence forces ?

Anas Ali

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i would like to know your opinion about this , it really interests me , i hope everyone gives there opinion .

i think the list wont get out of the following countries in my opinion:
usa-china-russia-france-uk-pakistan-india-south koria-germany-egypt-sudia arabia-algeria-israel-italy-japan-north koria-ukraine
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Best defence is offence, so best air defence is strong air force. But if we talk about ground air defence per se, then Russia is #1 out of question. Second is China. In ME there is nearly a tie between Egypt and Syria.
 
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If ur talking AIR defence network without airforce.Russia,massive,modern,diverse.
Then china i agree with 500.USA don't need air defence because its always on the offensive with its air force instead.
 
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i agree with both of you but i want to know more about the power of ground air defense around the world at least top ten of them
 
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You said Top 10 but i can count 19 in your list..... Btw Did you do any research before coming to this conclusion???
 
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Best defence is offence, so best air defence is strong air force. But if we talk about ground air defence per se, then Russia is #1 out of question. Second is China. In ME there is nearly a tie between Egypt and Syria.

Egyptian air-defense command have much more , sophisticated, upgraded, and diverse AD systems and much more in numbers. EAD is one of the most complicated in the world. It can't be compared to the Syrian one. I mean, it's an army in itself with 150 thousand personal.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-defence/210603-egyptian-air-defense-command.html

My ranking:

1- Russia
2- China
3- The USA
4- Egypt

I'm not sure about the rest, but UAE has a very powerful AD systems, but still in relatively small numbers.
 
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1-Russia
2-China
3-Iran
4-North Korea
5- and then maybe Syria


Well, as you can see there isn't any NATO member state or an ally of US. Because there are two different sides, two different tactics. One chooses Large air defence and massive armor support while the ones choose superior air power and an advanced large navy.
 
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US air defense is good....just never much chance to test it (one of the things that make us powerful is experience in a broad range.....especialy logistics....unfortunately our ADA has less "true" combat experience than most branches)
 
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My List ...

North Korea
Syria
Pakistan
Iran

MY LIST

1.) Indian air Force air defence
2.) indian Navy force AIr Defence
3> indian Army air defence
4.) DRDO
5.) Indian air force infantry man pads
6.) Indian navy forceinfantry manpads
7) indian Army infantry Manpads
8.) Indiand Stretigic Ballistic Defence Force
9.) indian ISRO
10.) indian CYBER UNIT FOR ELECTRONIC COUnter mesures
 
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MY LIST

1.) Indian air Force air defence
2.) indian Navy force AIr Defence
3> indian Army air defence
4.) DRDO
5.) Indian air force infantry man pads
6.) Indian navy forceinfantry manpads
7) indian Army infantry Manpads
8.) Indiand Stretigic Ballistic Defence Force
9.) indian ISRO
10.) indian CYBER UNIT FOR ELECTRONIC COUnter mesures

I like the way you burned :D
 
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Egypt i would say has a pretty vast air defence,though part of it is antiquated there are new elements now like bukm1,pac-3,skyguard,SLAMRAAM. I put egypt right up there after these 2.
 
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thanks guys but i don't understand why some members mentioned Syria , i don't think there is an country that has been violated in 2012 and 2013 like Syria of course it was by isreal , it just feel like it very weak to me maybe it will improve i heard they just bought pantsir s1 and s-300
 
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If ur talking AIR defence network without airforce.Russia,massive,modern,diverse.
Then china i agree with 500.USA don't need air defence because its always on the offensive with its air force instead.
- First understanding: Ground air defense is essentially a short term solution to a long term problem.

- Second understanding: No one ever win a shooting war by being on the defensive.

The long term problem here is the conflict under which ground air defense is an element. The goal of any shooting war, from here on shortened to simply 'war' for sake of brevity, is to deny the enemy the capabilities to wage war and the only solution of that problem is to take the war to enemy home soil and that require another element: offensive air operations.

Since the posture of ground air defense is naturally permanently defensive but if there is no companion offensive air policy, the absence of offensive air inevitably would make the overall posture of the war persistently defensive, then even though the enemy will require respite periods in order to restock his offensive air resources, he will do so with the understanding that if his capability to rearm is faster than yours, he will eventually outpace your defenses and will achieve THE goal: the denial of the enemy's capabilities to wage war.

In his perspective, the enemy is you.

A perfect example of this is the Vietnam War. Put aside the political rhetoric on how the US 'lost' that war and focus on the technical aspects of that war. North Vietnam's ground air defense capabilities were formidable enough that only a superpower, the US, is capable of going against such a defense. But the problem for the North Vietnamese is that they were incapable of any offensive air policy, not even against South Vietnam, of which basing was available for US offensive air. Of course, North Vietnam could not conduct any offensive air against US home soil. US offensive air power attacked North Vietnam's industrial base at will. It was only political respite periods successfully pleaded by North Vietnam that allowed rearming. If the US was not convinced of North Vietnam's (repeated) plead for partitioned peace, US offensive air would definitely overwhelmed any Soviet-China resupply of ground air defense resources to North Vietnam.

No different with Desert Storm but in this war, the US-led alliance decidedly refused to apply the incrementalism of offensive air policy from the Vietnam War and prosecuted offensive air to the fullest capabilities. The US-led alliance conducted not just offensive air operations, which is the physical realm, but also as much as technology allowed in the EM spectrum, blinding the Iraq ground air defense system of tactically important sensors necessary for coordination between leadership and discrete units.

It is not true that the US does not need ground air defense capabilities, we do. But we do so with the 2nd understanding. Offensive air policy give US the respite periods we need to rearm and reinforce our defensive methods, if necessary, while at the same time harass or even destroy the enemy his capabilities to wage war.
 
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