What has Pakistan achieved from hostilities with India?

[I S I]

There was a time when Pakistanis themselves used to say that 3 'As' run Pakistan which is Allah, Army and America.

Now you came to. He said she said they said ?

Mojority of the Indians said & believed back in the day that they would become Super Power by 2012. So that makes you guys the number one retard of a country.
http://articles.economictimes.india...s/28389376_1_space-programme-kalam-superpower

 

[Tom M]

If you see Indian media out of 30 political debates 20 would be on Pakistan. and they win Elections based on Who hates Pakistan more. Arnab goswami literally has orgasms on debates relating to Pakistan.

Nowhere in Pakistan parties take votes based on india hatred.

Well out of the 70 years history, how many years did the political parties actually got a chance to rule Pakistan ?? LOL

 

[I S I]

Which is by constantly hit by US drone attack and OBL episode.
i dont want to mention newer surgical strike,however atleast you will admit the drone attacks on your so called sovereignty.

As i said, we had accord of drone strikes in FATA with the USA.

 

[el che]

LOL and what about Christians Dalits sikhs assamis and many others they arent Muslim

Christians? Apart from very few stray incidences. The Christian community is well respected and there are thousands of missionary schools in India. This is coming from Pakistan who kill in the name of Blasphemy law. Don't compare India with Pakistan.

Dalit issue is being taken care of with rereservations in govt institutions. The society is progressing and caste system is dying a slow death.

Sikhs? 1984 is three decades ago. Sikhs are respected and represented in all institutions. They are glorified for their hard work and bravery. They also hate muslims to the core.

There is nothing wrong with Assam. ULFA is dead and these groups only care about money and living a lavish life. The North East insurgents. The burning issue in Assam is growing Muslim population and Bangladeshi immigration.

Out of all the above issue the most serious is dalit which is hindering the progress of some states, up and bihar. But absolutely no threat to national integrity. It is social issue which will be resolved in a few decades completely.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Now you came to. He said she said they said ?

Mojority of the Indians said & believed back in the day that they would become Super Power by 2012. So that makes you guys the number one retard of a country.
http://articles.economictimes.india...s/28389376_1_space-programme-kalam-superpower

There is a difference between what one says and what has/had happened in the past. Do you really believe that the US never ever had any sway in Pakistan? The fact that you guys permitted them to carry out drone strikes is enough to prove what kind of sway they had or probably even have

 

[Khan_21]

Well out of the 70 years history, how many years did the political parties actually got a chance to rule Pakistan ?? LOL

The 30+ years they got no one uttered India's name. While on India's side the moment election comes around there is contest to who will try to brow beat Pakistan more

 

[I S I]

There is a difference between what one says and what has/had happened in the past. Do you really believe that the US never ever had any sway in Pakistan? The fact that you guys permitted them to carry out drone strikes is enough to prove what kind of sway they had or probably even have

The only reason we allowed America to use drone strikes in Federal Administered areas back in 9/11 days was because of our inability to carry out COIN operations in mountain areas because we had no tech & experience in it. We started gaining that experience in 2009 war in North Waziristan when we cleared Swat from terrorists.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Pakistan has nothing to do in URI attack. It is your media which is blaming Pakistan. It was just futile effort of modi to divert attention from Kashmir issue, and from human rights violations. Indian government is responsible for such unrest in Kashmir & curfew of 3 months on civilians.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Christians? Apart from very few stray incidences. The Christian community is well respected and there are thousands of missionary schools in India. This is coming from Pakistan who kill in the name of Blasphemy law. Don't compare India with Pakistan.

Dalit issue is being taken care of with rereservations in govt institutions. The society is progressing and caste system is dying a slow death.

Sikhs? 1984 is three decades ago. Sikhs are respected and represented in all institutions. They are glorified for their hard work and bravery. They also hate muslims to the core.

There is nothing wrong with Assam. ULFA is dead and these groups only care about money and living a lavish life. The North East insurgents. The burning issue in Assam is growing Muslim population and Bangladeshi immigration.

Out of all the above issue the most serious is dalit which is hindering the progress of some states, up and bihar. But absolutely no threat to national integrity. It is social issue which will be resolved in a few decades completely.

lol a typical bakht BS respone when the whole worls knows that last year your own army chief called dalits "Dogs"
and a global terrorist is your sitting PM who has blood of 2000 people on his hand.

They also hate muslims to the core.

You just proved my point
Jai ho

 

[alee92nawaz]

I was just going through an article in dawn (http://www.dawn.com/news/1287227/mounting-tensions) and was just thinking, 'What has Pakistan achieved from hostilities with India? ' Pakistan/ISI in the 90s' waged a very successful, low cost proxy war on India. Disgruntled youth from Kashmir were made to cross LOC, were trained, brainwashed, armed and sent to fight Indian forces and interests. But after 9/11 everything changed, add to that India invested heavily to seal the LOC and cross border infiltration was no longer easy. But never the less ISI continued with it's game now by using unemployed youth from Pakistan instead of Kashmiri youth and by using it's assets in Indian Kashmir (separatists)

They send anybody willing..i have met those guys first hand lol..they don't accept bodies back but huge janaza prayers were held for few

With changed scenario after 9/11 and with the Indian/world economy getting integrated the narration of freedom struggle by guns is no longer acceptable and is classified as terrorism all across the globe. Never the less ISI still continued and it did harm India and Indian interests to a certain degree but what Pakistanis failed to realize it that it has harmed Pakistan more than it can ever harm India

So, what has Pakistan achieved so far?

(1) Firstly Pakistan's international image got ruined, which meant less tourism, less business, less FDI leading to weaker economy and poverty. Add to that suspicion with which Pakistani passport is looked at all across the west. An example is my boss had to travel to Pakistan for some work but he decided against it as he said it will become difficult for him to get a US or UK visa if his passport gets stamped with a Pakistani Visa

(2) Secondly because of fighting and losing multiple wars with a bigger enemy, the Army became the most important institutions in Pakistan which meant democratic institutions never got nurtured, massive defence budget, interference of Army in politics etc which again leads to instability which means weaker economy

Now if it would have been 90's it would have made sense for ISI to continue their game. But now with nukes in picture (eliminating chances of one side winning a war), does it makes sense for Pakistan to keep playing 'I bleed you' and 'you bleed me' game any longer? Or do they really believe that some terrorist attacks will make India negotiate on it's terms and thus keep on harming themselves more than they can ever harm India? Your thoughts guys

 

[Tom M]

The 30+ years they got no one uttered India's name. While on India's side the moment election comes around there is contest to who will try to brow beat Pakistan more

And you may be under the impression that BJP and Modi got elected just because of Pakistan bashing ?? Well if that is the case I would salute your intellect.

 

[Khan_21]

And you may be under the impression that BJP and Modi got elected just because of Pakistan bashing ?? Well if that is the case I would salute your intellect.

Not entirely 100 %. But can you deny they dont mention Pakistan all the time? Bringing up new ways and strategies to deal with Pakistan?. One is always accusing the other of not able to handle Paksitan properly and shud be given the chance this time.

Its in the top 5 mandates for sure.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Sikhs? 1984 is three decades ago. Sikhs are respected and represented in all institutions. They are glorified for their hard work and bravery. They also hate muslims to the core.There is nothing wrong with Assam. ULFA is dead and these groups only care ab

That is great news for Pakistan. So by your reckoning 2% of India [Sikhs] hates to the core 12% of India [Muslims] which must mean big, big trouble in big, big India. The elephant is going to try to bite it's own a*ss I guess? Should make for interesting news.

Dalit issue is being taken care of with rereservations in govt institutions. The society is progressing and caste system is dying a slow death.

Some progress made but a lot progress to be made. Now price of a Dalit life has increased to 15 Rupees.

Link > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36921346

 

[HAIDER]

India and Pakistan both need early election and get rid of both PM early as possible.

 

[Malhaar]

That is great news for Pakistan. So by your reckoning 2% of India [Sikhs] hates to the core 12% of India [Muslims] which must mean big, big trouble in big, big India. The elephant is going to try to bite it's own a*ss I guess? Should make for interesting news.


Some progress made but a lot progress to be made. Now price of a Dalit life has increased to 15 Rupees.

Link >

only UP, Bihar, Bengal and Hyderabad.