According to ten year old news we were in talks with Ukraine for accusation of Air to Air missiles what happened to that deal? furthermore keeping in view of current situation in Ukrain would it effect its defence deals with Pakistan ???
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BBC Monitoring International Reports
Source: Defense-Express web site, Kiev, in Russian 20 Aug 04, BBC Monitoring
August 25, 2004
Pakistan is going to buy weapons worth almost 1bn dollars from Ukraine, a web site has reported, quoting unnamed "informed sources". According to the web site, who was commenting on a recent visit by senior Pakistani military officials to Ukraine, Pakistan would also like to jointly manufacture tanks with Ukraine for export to Saudi Arabia. Pakistan was said to be currently interested in Ukrainian APCs, tank upgrades, guided munitions and air-to-air missiles. The following is the text of the article by Mykola Syruk, posted on the Ukrainian web site Defense Express on 20 August under the title "Is a major new arms contract in the offing in Ukraine?":
On 19 August, a Pakistani military delegation led by Gen Muhammad Aziz Khan, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (JCSC) of Pakistan's armed forces, completed a six-day official visit to Ukraine and left for home. Although this was the first official visit by such a high-ranking military leader, it did, in effect, take place under a veil of secrecy. Not a single publication was allowed to cover the Pakistani delegation's visit, and not a single news conference was organized. The Ukrainian Defence Ministry confined itself to an announcement that the development of military and military-technical cooperation was discussed at a meeting between the Pakistani delegation, Oleksandr Oliynyk, acting head of the defence department, and Gen Serhiy Kyrychenko, chief of the general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces. The Pakistani general's meeting with representatives of the Ukrainian arms trade and defence establishment indicates that Pakistan has an interest in continuing to purchase armaments and military hardware in Ukraine.
It should be recalled that Islamabad has not lost interest in Ukrainian weapons since the completion in 1999 of the major contract to supply Pakistan with 320 T-80UD tanks, worth about 640m dollars. When he was in Ukraine two years ago, Zakir Jaffer, head of Ahmed Jaffer & Company Ltd, which specializes, among other things, in supplying the Pakistani army with military hardware, confirmed Pakistan's interest in expanding and renewing the partnership with Ukraine in the field of military-technical cooperation. The Pakistani arms dealer stressed that collaboration in that area could be extended by cooperation in joint production. The result of the Pakistani arms dealer's "reconnaissance assault" was the signing in the summer of 2002 of a contract worth some 100m dollars for the state-owned Kharkiv Malyshev plant to supply 285 6TD engine-transmission sections for the Al Khalid, Pakistan's new main battle tank. This was previously known as project MBT-2000. Zakir Jaffer also recalled the successful experience of running Ukrainian KrAZ (Kremenchuk motor vehicle plant) vehicles in Pakistan, specifying that Pakistan was currently interested in renewing the army's fleet of heavy vehicles. Incidentally, the AvtoKrAZ open joint-stock company has already prepared a new right-hand drive vehicle for Pakistan. At the same time, the Pakistani arms dealer spoke of the prospects for cooperation in the aviation field, and particularly of Pakistan's need for military transport aircraft and helicopters to carry army personnel. According to some reports, a consignment of Ukrainian military transport helicopters taken from the arsenals of the Ukrainian Defence Ministry was delivered to Pakistan.
But now, informed sources maintain, what is at stake is a contract worth virtually a billion (dollars, presumably) to supply Pakistan with armaments and military hardware, which may be signed with Islamabad shortly. The Pakistani general wanted to check with his own eyes to see what sort of goods he was being offered in Ukraine. First and foremost, cooperation will be continued in the armoured vehicle field. Some reports say that Pakistan intends to produce, jointly with Ukraine, tanks that will be exported to Saudi Arabia. At the test site of Kharkiv's Malyshev plant, the JCSC chairman of Pakistan's armed forces was shown the Ukrainian tank-building industry's capacity to modernize tanks and create new armoured equipment. In particular, he saw a development by the Morozov engineering design bureau, Kharkiv - a multipurpose wheeled transport vehicle, offered in two versions - as a multipurpose vehicle with increased cross-country ability and a carrying capacity of up to two tonnes, and an armoured personnel carrier that is intended to carry loads and people and provides protection against small arms and weapons of mass destruction.Obviously, the visitor was able to see for himself that the Ukrainian "Hummer" was just as good as its American counterpart but cost only half as much. It is likely that the Pakistani general was also shown the T-64 "Bulat" tank that has been upgraded for the Ukrainian army and a version of the modernized T-55. There are over 500 such tanks in Pakistan. Evidently, Muhammad Aziz Khan was offered Ukrainian know-how for improving the combat performance of the Chinese-made T-59 tanks that are in service with the Pakistani army. There are more than 1,000 such tanks in Pakistan, and they are in need of modernization, in which, incidentally, Ukraine is taking part. It is well known that 50 modifications have been made to the tank's original design. In particular, the 520-hp engine has been replaced with a new, Ukrainian-made engine with a capacity of 730 hp. The armour has been strengthened, and a more powerful, 125-mm gun has been fitted, as well as an electronic fire control stabilization system, which can be used while the vehicle is in motion, and night vision equipment. So the supply of Ukrainian engines for these tanks may well continue, and the Ukrainian share in upgrading the vehicles may possibly increase. The Ukrainian arms dealers may also have convinced the Pakistani military of the advantages of the latest guided munitions, which were successfully tested at the beginning of this year. If so, a major contract can be expected as a follow-up, since the tanks that are in service with Pakistan's ground forces will be equipped with these munitions, and so too will those that are to be exported. Finally, experts think, Pakistan is showing considerable interest not only in ground-based high-precision weapons made in Ukraine, but also in developments that might strengthen the state's air defences. Accordingly, at the invitation of Valeriy Shmarov, director-general of the Ukrspetseksport state company, the Pakistani general also visited the Artem state joint-stock holding company. Evidently, the visitor was shown the Kiev company's latest air-to-air missiles. The experts are not ruling out the possibility that Islamabad will soon conclude with Ukraine a contract to supply new air-to-air missiles that can hit air targets at a range of up to 100 km.
The seriousness of the two sides' intentions is corroborated by the fact that JCSC chairman Muhammad Aziz Khan was received by Yuriy Prokofyev, head of the committee for military and technical cooperation and export control policy under the Ukrainian president. The meeting was also attended by representatives of the Progress specialized foreign trade firm. It was, of course, through Progress that the famous tank contract was negotiated. Ukraine conducts trade with Pakistan in weapons and dual-purpose products through that company. It may well be that formal approval was given at this meeting to the largest deal to supply arms to Pakistan since the tank contract
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BBC Monitoring International Reports
Source: Defense-Express web site, Kiev, in Russian 20 Aug 04, BBC Monitoring
August 25, 2004
Pakistan is going to buy weapons worth almost 1bn dollars from Ukraine, a web site has reported, quoting unnamed "informed sources". According to the web site, who was commenting on a recent visit by senior Pakistani military officials to Ukraine, Pakistan would also like to jointly manufacture tanks with Ukraine for export to Saudi Arabia. Pakistan was said to be currently interested in Ukrainian APCs, tank upgrades, guided munitions and air-to-air missiles. The following is the text of the article by Mykola Syruk, posted on the Ukrainian web site Defense Express on 20 August under the title "Is a major new arms contract in the offing in Ukraine?":
On 19 August, a Pakistani military delegation led by Gen Muhammad Aziz Khan, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (JCSC) of Pakistan's armed forces, completed a six-day official visit to Ukraine and left for home. Although this was the first official visit by such a high-ranking military leader, it did, in effect, take place under a veil of secrecy. Not a single publication was allowed to cover the Pakistani delegation's visit, and not a single news conference was organized. The Ukrainian Defence Ministry confined itself to an announcement that the development of military and military-technical cooperation was discussed at a meeting between the Pakistani delegation, Oleksandr Oliynyk, acting head of the defence department, and Gen Serhiy Kyrychenko, chief of the general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces. The Pakistani general's meeting with representatives of the Ukrainian arms trade and defence establishment indicates that Pakistan has an interest in continuing to purchase armaments and military hardware in Ukraine.
It should be recalled that Islamabad has not lost interest in Ukrainian weapons since the completion in 1999 of the major contract to supply Pakistan with 320 T-80UD tanks, worth about 640m dollars. When he was in Ukraine two years ago, Zakir Jaffer, head of Ahmed Jaffer & Company Ltd, which specializes, among other things, in supplying the Pakistani army with military hardware, confirmed Pakistan's interest in expanding and renewing the partnership with Ukraine in the field of military-technical cooperation. The Pakistani arms dealer stressed that collaboration in that area could be extended by cooperation in joint production. The result of the Pakistani arms dealer's "reconnaissance assault" was the signing in the summer of 2002 of a contract worth some 100m dollars for the state-owned Kharkiv Malyshev plant to supply 285 6TD engine-transmission sections for the Al Khalid, Pakistan's new main battle tank. This was previously known as project MBT-2000. Zakir Jaffer also recalled the successful experience of running Ukrainian KrAZ (Kremenchuk motor vehicle plant) vehicles in Pakistan, specifying that Pakistan was currently interested in renewing the army's fleet of heavy vehicles. Incidentally, the AvtoKrAZ open joint-stock company has already prepared a new right-hand drive vehicle for Pakistan. At the same time, the Pakistani arms dealer spoke of the prospects for cooperation in the aviation field, and particularly of Pakistan's need for military transport aircraft and helicopters to carry army personnel. According to some reports, a consignment of Ukrainian military transport helicopters taken from the arsenals of the Ukrainian Defence Ministry was delivered to Pakistan.
But now, informed sources maintain, what is at stake is a contract worth virtually a billion (dollars, presumably) to supply Pakistan with armaments and military hardware, which may be signed with Islamabad shortly. The Pakistani general wanted to check with his own eyes to see what sort of goods he was being offered in Ukraine. First and foremost, cooperation will be continued in the armoured vehicle field. Some reports say that Pakistan intends to produce, jointly with Ukraine, tanks that will be exported to Saudi Arabia. At the test site of Kharkiv's Malyshev plant, the JCSC chairman of Pakistan's armed forces was shown the Ukrainian tank-building industry's capacity to modernize tanks and create new armoured equipment. In particular, he saw a development by the Morozov engineering design bureau, Kharkiv - a multipurpose wheeled transport vehicle, offered in two versions - as a multipurpose vehicle with increased cross-country ability and a carrying capacity of up to two tonnes, and an armoured personnel carrier that is intended to carry loads and people and provides protection against small arms and weapons of mass destruction.Obviously, the visitor was able to see for himself that the Ukrainian "Hummer" was just as good as its American counterpart but cost only half as much. It is likely that the Pakistani general was also shown the T-64 "Bulat" tank that has been upgraded for the Ukrainian army and a version of the modernized T-55. There are over 500 such tanks in Pakistan. Evidently, Muhammad Aziz Khan was offered Ukrainian know-how for improving the combat performance of the Chinese-made T-59 tanks that are in service with the Pakistani army. There are more than 1,000 such tanks in Pakistan, and they are in need of modernization, in which, incidentally, Ukraine is taking part. It is well known that 50 modifications have been made to the tank's original design. In particular, the 520-hp engine has been replaced with a new, Ukrainian-made engine with a capacity of 730 hp. The armour has been strengthened, and a more powerful, 125-mm gun has been fitted, as well as an electronic fire control stabilization system, which can be used while the vehicle is in motion, and night vision equipment. So the supply of Ukrainian engines for these tanks may well continue, and the Ukrainian share in upgrading the vehicles may possibly increase. The Ukrainian arms dealers may also have convinced the Pakistani military of the advantages of the latest guided munitions, which were successfully tested at the beginning of this year. If so, a major contract can be expected as a follow-up, since the tanks that are in service with Pakistan's ground forces will be equipped with these munitions, and so too will those that are to be exported. Finally, experts think, Pakistan is showing considerable interest not only in ground-based high-precision weapons made in Ukraine, but also in developments that might strengthen the state's air defences. Accordingly, at the invitation of Valeriy Shmarov, director-general of the Ukrspetseksport state company, the Pakistani general also visited the Artem state joint-stock holding company. Evidently, the visitor was shown the Kiev company's latest air-to-air missiles. The experts are not ruling out the possibility that Islamabad will soon conclude with Ukraine a contract to supply new air-to-air missiles that can hit air targets at a range of up to 100 km.
The seriousness of the two sides' intentions is corroborated by the fact that JCSC chairman Muhammad Aziz Khan was received by Yuriy Prokofyev, head of the committee for military and technical cooperation and export control policy under the Ukrainian president. The meeting was also attended by representatives of the Progress specialized foreign trade firm. It was, of course, through Progress that the famous tank contract was negotiated. Ukraine conducts trade with Pakistan in weapons and dual-purpose products through that company. It may well be that formal approval was given at this meeting to the largest deal to supply arms to Pakistan since the tank contract
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