We weren't worried but it was you who always seemed to be worried.You started arms race in the region because you knew that your current strength despite being bigger than Pakistan is still not competitive enough so you started race in Air defenses,Nuclear submarines,long range missile/hypersonic missiles i.e: brahmos with help of Russia, advanced fighter jets i.e: rafale and you didn't consider su-30mki competitive enough for the role.
If India's only concern was Pakistan its forces wouldn't he have been that big & broad in deterrence but smaller, more advanced and limited to dettering only a few threats.
India forces wouldn't have been going for long range ships, such a big array of MilSATs and aircrafts in that number.
India's nuclear program was only & only because of dissentions with Chinese nuclear program, UNSC members and American attempt of intervention in 1971.
Other neighbors are living very peacefully, its only Pakistan getting messed.
Moreover, it doesn't make sense that India will be limited to region. It's 60% of landmass, 70% population and 80% of economy itself. India is not a very big country but South Asia is too small to be qualify as a region where military strategies can be focused.
Pakistan is indeed a chapter in India's security concerns but its only one chapter, an important factor because it happens to be a nuclear power and ironically our neighbor but not dominating and most important at all.
and about that export stuff you posted..My reply was that you have more industries licensing producing the stuff and that's what you are re-exporting because you have more labour with cheap cost of production.The most recent example is of chinook helicopters that along with purchasing you are also manufacturing its parts for boeing and will export it back to the company.
India's large amount of aerospace exports come from Space industry, then companies like Tonbo Imaging, Reliance, Mahindra Aerospace and Tara Aerospace Avionics. Mahindra is biggest producer of yes, licensed stuff also.
Most of high quality stuff, specially supplies to NATO countries will be license produced while desk stuff for countries which can't afford better.
Now, R&D spending will reflect share of this stuff. Like in case of JFT or Mushak.
Pathetic reply, first develop basic level comprehension skills before posting on an international forum.
Like this:
The only you should be worried about is that Pakistan has lauched an indeginous next generation fighter program due to the experience gained in JF-17 project.
Which third party was able to keep your panties wet for so long?
You know, almost every topic ends up like this one in this "International Forum". I come only for timepass here.
On Defence Forum India, we would have got notices and thread would have locked till now for digressing from topic & personal attacks, on Sinodefence, they would have banned us permanently.
I haven't added anything thing to the discussion happening earlier just trying to seperate facts from fiction.
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By you I donot mean "India" as a whole and just you as a person who was trying to get smart and collect some information that might not be available in public sphere. I have just raised a couple of points that counter your arguments.
There was no argument there, you carried out a personal attack while you could simply quote something about Project Azm directly. But you boasted even there irrationally.
1) Pakistanis publish way less patents and journals and that automatically means that Pakistan is not doing any R&D espacially in the context of missile program.
My response was that defense related public sector enjoy complete monopoly in the context of defense sector in Pakistan so a patent is not always on the priority list for such organizations, on contrary they imply special SOPs to guard against leakage of information for defense related projects.
I guess I've given that patent argument in response to some other program, to indicate technical prowess because someone thinks that Indian projects are delayed for no reason and Pakistani counterparts will succeed in meantime with low spending for no reason again.
What is Pakistani R&D budget btw?
2) Pakistan was not able to take back Kashmir and might not in the near future as well.
My reply was on similar lines that India also claims whole of Kashmir but couldn't take it away from either Pakistan or China even though the landmass of India is almost seven times bigger than Paskistan.
Geopolitical scenario neither will let India seize Pakistani Kashmir anytime soon. Nor India should try to IMO.
Changing demographics and balance of population Muslims with Indian religions has already created havoc in Eastern India & Myanmar. Moreover, Pakistani Kashmir's population is likely to be even more Indophobic.
Last I remembered, you had access to so many western suppliers and China was under sanctions from all since the 90s.
What the heck? India was sanctioned besides 80s, was economically even weaker and didn't get access to anything except assembly.
China was never sanctioned truly, UNSC seat never let it happen.
Before Sino Soviet split, it had full access to Soviet stuff and post that Clinton and Bush establishments were so friendly.
It isn't a coincidence that almost every Chinese project is a copy of theirs.
Is this how you justify your failures and incompetence?
J83 or J9? Before J20, which capable Chinese independent plane even took off?
It all started from LAVI (F-16) into J10 and Flankers in J11,15 & 16.
What about other programs? All failed!!! Do you see a pattern here?
Ballistic Missiles, SAMs, Interceptors, FFGs, DDGs, Submarines, Helos, LVs.
Indian companies supply even stuff to NATO.
The army's changing requirement depends now. They had INSAS but they don't have Excalibur and Ghatak.
This incompetence is not just militarily, it's across the board, you can't feed your population, half a billion defecates in the open. India is basically a giant shit hole.
It's less than 100 million and I don't guess China was any different before 90s.
Chinese liberalisation in economy happened in 1978 increasing incomes and Indian ones since 90s except the sanctions.
For rest of post, it was garbage. No matter how much shit you spew, PRC is yet to design a VCE. Case closed.
I would also love to see KAVERI perform under 'Chinese' environment, while we are at it, why not we succumb the F135 to Indian environments, since this is your definition of testing environment.
The pressure inside core drops in tropical area. "Definition" of testing isn't even a thing here.
Yeah, Kaveri is underpowered for intended LCA but can power smaller one, anywhere.
OO yah, you don't even have the right wind tunnels to test engines.
Only one thing I agreed.
I am open to technicalities, but what did you actually build or tested? Or it remains on paper?
No you aren't. Real time testing and validation isn't technicality.
You are using it to escape from technicalities. Your only argument is its not operational or on platform.
As I told before, you have nothing to do with technology. You are here to thump chest for results of what Chinese defence research personnel. You don't even know about their job.
So we are supposed to say you are ahead on paper?
Indeed yes, besides metallurgy, its done.
Gosh, YOU DO NOT HAVE EXPERIENCE BUILDING EVEN SIMPLE TURBOJETS.
Built two called 14 U & 14UB in 80s & 90s.
coz turbojet cycle in Kaveri is necessary.
