What happened to Hindus in Kashmir in 1990s is happening again in UP's Kairana

[ranjeet]

Forget them. They are boring and will be irrelevant. Check out the fan pages of Owaisi, Azam Khan and other leaders on Facebook. I love those young Moslem comments against Hindus. While one Hindu would say someone pig and the whole gang will call the Hindu all sorts of things... They are mostly technically 'Indian'. Some are from other countries as well.

I heard BJP had their top bosses in UP today, did they say anything about Kamlesh Tiwari?

 

[The_Showstopper]

Thank God, I thought you are going to say let the SC has the final say on this matter.

LOL You post a report of a single incident and want to cover all of them under the same umbrella

 

[SarthakGanguly]

@ranjeet - What did I say? Some justification can ALWAYS be found if you look hard enough. All that matters ultimately is intent.

Hitler would have invaded Poland, regardless of its return of Danzig. Our position with respect to Islamism is already in stone. We are not to be allowed to exist. Other than in servitude.

Can you read Urdu? Urdu newspapers? Books and pamphlets found numerously in the markets of Old Delhi and Hyderabad?

I heard BJP had their top bosses in UP today, did they say anything about Kamlesh Tiwari?

Kamlesh Tiwari should have been released on bail. He has the freedom to speak his mind. Regular laws should have been applied. Instead he 'threatens national security'.

 

[ranjeet]

LOL You post a report of a single incident and want to cover all of them under the same umbrella

So Hindus killed an Ex congress MP without any planning but went on a killing spree in the whole state under well coordinated plans.

@ranjeet - What did I say? Some justification can ALWAYS be found if you look hard enough. All that matters ultimately is intent.

Hitler would have invaded Poland, regardless of its return of Danzig. Our position with respect to Islamism is already in stone. We are not to be allowed to exist. Other than in servitude.

Can you read Urdu? Urdu newspapers? Books and pamphlets found numerously in the markets of Old Delhi and Hyderabad?.

Nope don't know Urdu but have read Tufail's work on what urdu magazines proudly publish.

 

[The_Showstopper]

So Hindus killed an Ex congress MP without any planning but went on a killing spree in the whole state under well coordinated plans.

I posted you sources and you seem to be in denial..

 

[SarthakGanguly]

So Hindus killed an Ex congress MP without any planning but went on a killing spree in the whole state under well coordinated plans.

Maududis can't be bothered.

But for anti Hindu dharmics, you can point them to Sanjiv Bhatt's writ petition here. He claimed that the Gujarat police and administration had a conspiracy. The SC found nothing such. It's a bit lengthy but worth it.
http://supremecourtofindia.nic.in/FileServer/2015-10-13_1444718418.pdf

 

[The_Showstopper]

[Kamlesh Tiwari should have been released on bail. He has the freedom to speak his mind. Regular laws should have been applied. Instead he 'threatens national security'.

When Babu Bajrangi can go on bail then why not Kamlesh...

 

[itachii]

No I am just explaining your logic... If 2002 happened because of Godhra then it also implies that Train bombings happened because of Bombay riots... Agree?

how can you compare a spontaneous riot by ordinary folk, with a well planned attack by a notorious underworld goonda. 2002 was a riot while 1993 was an attack on nation.

Oh common... people were also killed in Assam riots, so no not just for foreigners. I already stated that uneducated lot don't really get to know what war memorials are forget about their importance.

Does that mean if uneducated hindus from all around the country start rioting for hindus displaced in kashmir is justifiable. assam riots was b/w ingenious bodos and illegal muslim bangladeshis, why should muslims of mumbai have concern for illegal immigrants of bd that are changing the demography of NE ?

Demography has being changing on both the sides...

Is it changing on the other side because, muslim businessmen are targetted and are being demanded to pay protection money ?

 

[ranjeet]

I posted you sources and you seem to be in denial..

You posted a media report, what's next? you going to copy and paste chapters and paragraphs from "Gujarat Files"?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Nope don't know Urdu

The Nastaliq script should be learnt by all Dharmic people. Urdu dailies are a brilliant window to the dominant Muslim mindset. The opinions section is always awesome. They obviously know that Hindus don't read them, hence they are far more honest and politically incorrect.

 

[ranjeet]

When Babu Bajrangi can go on bail then why not Kamlesh...

Babu Bajrangi killed Muslims, they come dime a dozen. Kamlesh went for the Gangotari.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

When Babu Bajrangi can go on bail then why not Kamlesh...

They can't be compared.

Kamlesh is almost innocent. A personal opinion about another man can never be considered a crime. It is ridiculous.

 

[The_Showstopper]

how can you compare a spontaneous riot by ordinary folk, with a well planned attack by a notorious underworld goonda. 2002 was a riot while 1993 was an attack on nation.

Weren't we discussing what incident lead to what? So now from justifying why it happened, Now you get into semantics. LOL so attack on Gujarati Indian muslims is not an attack on nation but attack on people of Bombay is?

Does that mean if uneducated hindus from all around the country start rioting for hindus displaced in kashmir is justifiable. assam riots was b/w ingenious bodos and illegal muslim bangladeshis, why should muslims of mumbai have concern for illegal immigrants of bd that are changing the demography of NE ?

Where did I even justify? And how did you come a conclusion that they were illegal Bangladeshis. Any source to back your claim?

Is it changing on the other side because, muslim businessmen are targetted

Indeed, not just muslim business men but muslims in general were targeted during Muzzafarnagar riots.

They can't be compared.

Kamlesh is almost innocent. A personal opinion about another man can never be considered a crime. It is ridiculous.

Well even MF Hussain had his opinions. What's your say about him?

I hope you also believe those below are also innocent...

'Derogatory' Facebook post against Narendra Modi lands man in jail

http://archive.indianexpress.com/ne...inst-narendra-modi-lands-man-in-jail/1276705/

PM Narendra Modi’s morphed photo lands Karnataka youth in jail

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...pm-modis-morphed-picture-on-facebook-2804410/

Two jailed in MP for morphed RSS leader Mohan Bhagwat image

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...jailed-in-mp-for-morphed-mohan-bhagwat-image/

Babu Bajrangi killed Muslims, they come dime a dozen.

Naah... There are few of them(some with potential and some(one to be specific) has already reached that level) prowling on this forum

You posted a media report, what's next? you going to copy and paste chapters and paragraphs from "Gujarat Files"?

You were not even able to post one such report and instead drew analogies from an individual case whose decision can be challenged any moment...

 

[Marxist]

Yes .In 1921 and during Tipu's Invasion

list is long Maradu ,some areas in northern malabar ...etc

 

[itachii]

Weren't we discussing what incident lead to what? So now from justifying why it happened, Now you get into semantics. LOL so attack on Gujarati Indian muslims is not an attack on nation but attack on people of Bombay is?

How can you compare both ? 2002 weren't planned and executed after an year with the help of Indian arch enemy. Those who involved in 2002 didn't run away from India to find safe heaven in pakistan. If you say attack on muslims is an attack on India, doesn't it mean attack on Hindus is an attack on India too ??

Indeed, not just muslim business men but muslims in general were targeted during Muzzafarnagar riots.

let's not get in to Muzzafarnagar again, we discussed the root cause of muzzafarnagar to death in pdf.