Wrong. 100% of Americans want the war to end and the bloodshed to stop but 100% of Americans dont want peace at the cost of letting Al Qaeda win! 50% of the people may not want to send more troops to Afghanistan but 100% of Americans support our troops no matter where they are! And 100% of Americans want to win!
You're wrong, dearie!! So far, your Vice President Biden is also of the view not to increase the troops. Loads and loads of Americans think that White House is mortgaging the nation's economy on war. A host of Americans, and let me repeat it again, 52% of Americans want US to withdraw the troops from Afghanistan.
You're making no sense while you say 100% of Americans support US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. Well, you should read this news while you talk with so much confidence that 100% American support US-led Nato forces in Afghanistan:
washingtonpost.com
Call this news an ISI's conspiracy or anti Americanism schemed by Pakistanis lol.
Besides, generally who endorses the presence of US troops in Afghanistan, I know that. The number of middle class and poorly educated people I'd say. The mostly educated ones don't support this WAR and of course the presence of US Troops. I'm not talking as 'every' well-educated person opposes the war, I'm talking generally.
What are you talking about -- winning? All you want is to 'win', but you, or rather Washington, never thought of winning the hearts and minds of the residents of Afghanistan, the Afghanis. Instead, you want to win as if by subduing them to an utmost extent. Bad thing!! Pride has a fall!!
You confusing the statistics of people favoring additional troops to Afghanistan with the statistics of people favoring defeating Al Qaeda!
The US is not going to ever let Al Qaeda win, where ever they hide and we are not going to abandon Afghanistan to the Taliban either. The US will not let Afghanistan become another haven for terrorists, come what may! It might take time and it might be bloody but in the end the Taliban will either fall in line or be swept aside. Nobody in this world can expect to kill 3000 American civilians and expect America to give up! Obama or Bush, the American people do not forgive or forget! You should understand this!
Well, as I said you need to look around yourself, in America, to understand who wants what. I can't understand your obsession while you say so surely that 100% supports US troops no matter where they're. Well, you need to check these newses, and keep yourself abreast about Anti War Protests 'within' your own country.
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BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Thousands join anti-war protest
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Iraq protesters march on Pentagon - Conflict in Iraq- msnbc.com
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Scores arrested in protest at White House - UPI.com
It was sometime back that a group of American students protested against the US invasion in Afghanistan and Iraq. They demonstrated a protest in New York along with a massive support of students. Many were arrested.
Dear, when you say that 3000 Americans were killed in 9/11 carnage, I say you had one 9/11. We're having daily 9/11s in Pakistan -- since 9/11 happened. You're endorsing the evil policies and imperialism of Bush administration. While a legion of Obama's supporters, I know, want US troops to vacate Afghanistan and Iraq before long.
You obviously have very little understanding of the US or its policies. Biden is a joke, nobody listens to him and he was never right about anything! He wanted to invade IRaq and didnt want to support the surge! He is a fool and a clown and nobody cares about his opinions!
And you've a great understanding of what's happening in Afghanistan and Iraq, eh? It's my country that suffers, it's my neighbor country that suffers and anything and everything that happens in Afghanistan always have an impact over Pakistan. So more than you, who's sitting across the oceans, we actually know how we're suffering and how innocents are getting killed each passing day. And when US Army or any army 'regrets the loss of innocent lives', I ASK whose life isn't INNOCENT? We all are Innocents!!
This is absolute nonsense and absolutely irrelevant. First, Kennedy didnt listen to the CIA and the Pentagon when he okayed the Bay of Pigs operation! Moreover it was Eisenhower who actually came up with the whole plan. It failed because the CIA was incompetent not because the US military couldnt go into Cuba and sling Castro up by his neck!
Bush despite his misguided reasons for going into Iraq was actually quite successful in the way Iraq turned out in the end because he listened to his generals and his advisers!
That's what I'm saying. Kennedy didn't listen to the professional military advice. In 1961, many of Kennedys Generals and advisors argued with Kennedy to increase the number of troops in South Vietnam and save the South Vietnamese government from collapsing. Kennedy, however, categorically refused the idea of surging the number of troops. He already had the embarrassing experience during the Bay of Pigs episode when he paid heed to CIA and his Generals and faced international humiliation. The wise man favored a strategy of arming and reinforcing the South Vietnamese Army, and of teaching them new counterinsurgency tactics instead of increasing the number of troops. This strategy worked well. It couldnt have been better than this. At the time of Kennedys assassination in November 1963, the Pentagon had recorded only 108 American military personnel killed.
And about Cuba and Castro, well, CIA did want to assassinate Castro back then. Now c'mon dear, don't be so innocent about CIA's evilness. You need to read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/us/17inquire.html?_r=1&em
Firstly, the CIA is NOT military! And secondly, you say that Obama should not pull a "Bay of Pigs" and not listen to his generals and his advisors but Kennedy did just that and caused the "Bay of Pigs" incident!
Yes, follow a failed outlook at a war! I think NOT!
I think most likely after the Afghan election results are out Obama is going to either ask NATO for more troops from Europe or send more American forces in to finish the job or maybe even do both!
The situation in Afghanistan is not conducive to anybody's security, be it Europe or America.
The real problem however still lies in Pakistan and Pakistan's ability to police its own border and sort out its own troubles. The failure of the Pakistani military's fight against the Taliban would be the greatest deciding factor in the decision to send more troops to Afghanistan.
That's what I'm saying. Obama should adopt a wise strategy just like Kennedy did in Vietnam war. Read my above explanations about counterinsurgency tactics and number of deaths recorded.
I'm of the view that Obama won't increase the troops. I'm rather hoping that actually.
Yesterday, Obama made the request in a meeting with Vice President Biden and a small group of senior advisers helping him decide whether to expand the war.
The president has two choices: One is to drastically increase the number of troops in Afghanistan by 40,000 to 60,000. Another is to do nothing or order a purely symbolic increase. Each choice will surely provoke a legion of critics. Not committing to a troop increase, Obama can lose the support of American troops on the ground, influential policy media, and 48% of American population that want increased military presence. However, committing to a troop increase will upset Vice-President Biden who opposes escalation, those who endorsed and celebrated the presidents Nobel Peace prize, and, well, the other half of the American population.
In either case, the president must unite the American people behind his choice.
And lastly, you alleging Pakistan Army is failed to cope with this drastic situation. Let me ask you, what US-led Nato forces have done in Afghanistan in last 8 years? The so-called super-power is yet unable to seize the poppy and opium international trade in Afghanistan, let alone subduing Talibans and al Qaeda