What did the pythagoras mean by ' Everything is made from numbers ?'

[El Sidd]

There is no big deal, you are acting like a drama queen. You took extreme position and then you want to wash you hands off by declaring that you don't want to discuss religious matters.

Ok

 

[nang2]

Mathematics is the religion of the universe. Everything around you sings to a tune and that tune is writ in numbers. You abstract physical reality with maths. Therefore to understand nature we must learn it's language - Maths.

As our understanding of maths improves we can see the patterns and the behaviour of universe which wwe can of course use to design all manner of things around us. From bridges, buildings, rockets, missiles, to medicine math is the recipe that underpins everything. So Pythagoras was spot on.

Abstracted physical reality isn't the reality. It is not the language of universe but a human language to communicate with one another in order to share the understanding of the universe.

 

[Godman]

Where do you think the knowledge of numbers or anything and everything came to mankind?

The Human brain.
Abrahamic god is entirely shown to be non-interventionist when it comes to science and the early societies that started using numbers certainly didn't worship the abrahamic god.
Omni means all or every. Omnipotence allows god to do anything ,Omniscience allows god to know everything and Omnipresence allows god to be everywhere.
So this being exists everywhere and nowhere in past ,present ,the future at the same time and knows about everything. Putting some numbers isn't going to change anything

Ignoring the headache inducing things and putting things simply, a omnipotent god is not going to care. Its human nature to associate patterns and symbols with things and it is highly unlikely just associating numbers or symbols with divinity and putting them everywhere is going to please god. It is closer to weird occultism or trying to win favors by excessively praising someone.
The numbers are just numbers and symbols are just symbols

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The Human brain.
Abrahamic god is entirely shown to be non-interventionist when it comes to science and the early societies that started using numbers certainly didn't worship the abrahamic god.
Omni means all or every. Omnipotence allows god to do anything ,Omniscience allows god to know everything and Omnipresence allows god to be everywhere.
So this being exists everywhere and nowhere in past ,present ,the future at the same time and knows about everything. Putting some numbers isn't going to change anything

Ignoring the headache inducing things and putting things simply, a omnipotent god is not going to care. Its human nature to associate patterns and symbols with things and it is highly unlikely just associating numbers or symbols with divinity and putting them everywhere is going to please god. It is closer to weird occultism or trying to win favors by excessively praising someone.
The numbers are just numbers and symbols are just symbols

Who created human brain ?

Abrahamic God, taught the first man all the names before he was send to earth. Knowledge is with the divine, and he who taught the mankind whatever he wished. While keeping a lot hidden, while revealing some of that hidden knowledge to those who he wished.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Abstracted physical reality isn't the reality.

Reality is what we humans can concieve as 'reality'. Therefore if we abstract a reality that to us is reality.

It is not the language of universe but a human language to communicate with one another in order to share the understanding of the universe.

It is the translation of the universe in a language we can understand - therefore it is in my view language of the universe in translation.

 

[Godman]

Who created human brain ?

Abrahamic God, taught the first man all the names before he was send to earth. Knowledge is with the divine, and he who taught the mankind whatever he wished. While keeping a lot hidden, while revealing some of that hidden knowledge to those who he wished.

The first "man" is a vague concept.

If god created numbers then either all of it is divine or non of it is divine. There cannot be special numbers associated with god specially when the god is beyond such concepts

 

[nang2]

Reality is what we humans can concieve as 'reality'. Therefore if we abstract a reality that to us is reality.


It is the translation of the universe in a language we can understand - therefore it is in my view language of the universe in translation.

What I meant by "reality" is the one that is separate from our consciousness. Our consciousness conceives that reality via senses and logic, which serve as a filter between the reality and us. What you conceive is not the reality itself, just like what is in the mirror is not really you, especially when that mirror is not flat.

In addition, you don't need a language to understand the universe. For example, animals don't have languages. They don't need a translation of the universe but nonetheless they can understand the part of universe that concerns them or they cannot survive.

 

[El Sidd]

For example, animals don't have languages.

Animals not only have a language but sense of culture and society as well.

 

[Asimzranger]

 

[nang2]

Animals not only have a language but sense of culture and society as well.

yes but that doesn't mean a loner would lose its capacity to understand the universe.

 

[El Sidd]

yes but that doesn't mean a loner would lose its capacity to understand the universe.

You cannot understand the universe. You can comprehend it by mathematical Observations.

All Universal laws are susceptible to short comings

 

[nang2]

You cannot understand the universe. You can comprehend it by mathematical Observations.

All Universal laws are susceptible to short comings

well, if you define comprehension of universe as mathematical understanding, then yes. but that seems to be a circular definition. Anyway, animals do understand numbers though they can barely count to more than 4.

 

[El Sidd]

well, if you define comprehension of universe as mathematical understanding, then yes. but that seems to be a circular definition. Anyway, animals do understand numbers though they can barely count to more than 4.

Who knows.

They have their own language or understanding of counting.

 

[Verve]

Hi,
I'm unable to understand this point . I'm thinking over it and couldn't get the answer.
Pythagoras was a philosopher who believed in worshiping the numbers . He conceptualised the numbers in different forms .

He said that all things are made from numbers . All things are numbers . In short he believed that being and existence is based on numbers .
How so ?

@HannibalBarca @El Sidd @Joe Shearer @Kaptaan @django

Source of all energy is Sound.

Sound is measured by maths.

Every single thing resonates due to sound.

It's just that his mind could only get as far as the maths of it all so ended up worshipping it instead.

That's the short of it.

 

[El Sidd]

Source of all energy is Sound.

Sound is measured by maths.

Every single thing resonates due to sound.

It's just that his mind could only get as far as the maths of it all so ended up worshipping it instead.

That's the short of it.

Stop explaining islamic stuff.