What defines a Pakistani muslim?

[Man of Thoughts]

^^ I'm sorry but my intelligence level cannot match yours sire.

Kindly explain in simpler words for us lesser beings.

yes 0f course your intelligence level cannot match mine

In my post i have said that This is the definition of not only Pakistani but all Muslim

Wether it is Indian or Pakistani

 

[Zee-Gen]

^ Jahanpana...Tusi great ho :ROFL:

Anyways, this seems like a religious text to me. If this is, please don't bother translating. Instead tell me how this doesn't apply to Indian muslims or the woman in the question who won the election on BJP ticket?

Or the so called 'rent-a-muslim'...

It is really hard to translate, but since you people can speak and understand urdu, here it is:

YouTube - Noor Jahan sings Kalam-e-Iqbal Live on PTV - Har lehza hai Momin ki nai shaan

 

[Man of Thoughts]

As I had anticipated, a religious text.

this is not religious text but explanation is related to religious

 

[JamesBond]

You guys are going off-topic.

I got what you are trying to convey. That is the definition of muslims as given in the religious texts of islam.

Now please tell me how this doesn't apply to Indian muslims or the woman in the question who won the election on BJP ticket?

Or the so called 'rent-a-muslim'...

 

[Man of Thoughts]

You guys are going off-topic.

I got what you are trying to convey. That is the definition of muslims as given in the religious texts of islam.

Now please tell me how this doesn't apply to Indian muslims or the woman in the question who won the election on BJP ticket?

Or the so called 'rent-a-muslim'...

I have said this in my previous posts that this is not for Pakistani Muslims but every Muslim in the world despite he or she is Pakistani or Indian or from any other country

This is the ideal definition of a Muslim

 

[MUDDASSERA]

diff ques....!

 

[JamesBond]

You really got zero Brain

I have said this in my previous posts that this is not for Pakistani Muslims but every Muslim in the world despite he or she is Pakistani or Indian or from any other country

This is the ideal definition of a Muslim

In that case you are completely off topic...because your post in no way answers the questions whose answers I seek

 

[Spring Onion]

The correct question which needs to be asked what defines an an Indian Muslims as an Indian.

The parameter is so clear. An Indian Muslims is Indian only when he/she is ready to Hindu norms. An Indian Muslim considered very Good and true Indian when he/she helps in preparation for dohsera and other Hindu festivals.

When he/she arranges puja on different Hindu festivals. When he/she sing vande mataram.

And when he/she starts considering cow slaughter on eid as forbidden and a sin.

There are many other criteria for defining an Indian Muslim according to majority Hindu view point.



Now come to Pakistan NO Hindu, Sikh, Christian is required to adopt Islamic ways to prove him/herself as true Pakistani.


As far as We being Pakistanis and being Muslims we are very clear

Pakistan is our Identity Islam is our Ideology.

 

[Man of Thoughts]

This defines not only Pakistani but all Muslims

For my Indian Friends

The meaning of this literature is

1.The the Muslim is the one who never disobey Allah,
In his talks,in his work.in his doing things He never disobey Allah's orders
2.He is merciful,courageous and never gave up on the RIGHT thing

3.whatever he do he always reflect Quran

4.He is the one who is like Heaven for their friends and Hell for their Foes

And Please don't relate it with Taliban or other muslims who donot obey Islam
This is the definition of true muslim

 

[JamesBond]

The correct question which needs to be asked what defines an an Indian Muslims as an Indian.

Wrong thread lady. Anyways, you should know what prompted me to create this thread.

 

[Man of Thoughts]

In that case you are completely off topic...because your post in no way answers the questions whose answers I seek

your Question is What is the Definition of a Pakistani Muslim

Any Pakistani is first muslim and than Pakistani
and same goes for every Muslim

if you want to know definition of pakistani Muslim You should Know what is a Muslim first

 

[Spring Onion]

Wrong thread lady. Anyways, you should know what prompted me to create this thread.

Not all. This is very much relevant.

Your question is totally wrong for reasons


1. For being a Pakistani you need not to be a Muslim necessarily

2. The definition of good or bad Muslims NOT at all makes you a Pakistan.

3. You can be one of most sinister Muslim and still be a Pakistan.

4. Now what defines a good Muslim then this is a universal criteria for all Muslims defined in the Quran and Sunnah. This has nothing to do with any nationality.



5. Now coming to your question and the pretext which prompted you to hurl a wrong question here for starting this thread. Your argument is about that Indian Muslim lady who joined BJP BUT at what cost ? At the Cost of her own values and by adopting to ways and attire that is considered by Indian Hindus as more closed to defining an Indian.

6. You and all other Indian members were and are trying to confuse things. because A. Wearing a sari or a shalwar Kameez is not the issue. The real issue is She had to replace her attire for more acceptance in Hindu dominated party. Now this is more important to note. Why BJP did not accept an Indian woman with wearing a Burqa ? Why she had to give up shalwar Kameez for Sari?


Why Indian hindu dominated political paradigm can not accept something that they consider more closed to Islamic values?


It clearly Shows and proves Muslims in India are welcomed as long as they are willing to distort their faith and belief.

The prime examples are

1 Shahrukh Khan who has married a Hindu Woman and his children are being exposed to amalgamation of a fake combination of Hinduism and Islamic ways.


2. The Salam Khans who's one brother is married to again a Hindu woman, who's mother if i am not wrong was a Hindu woman (now i am wrong correct me)

there are many other examples. The list goes on.

 

[JonAsad]

5. Now coming to your question and the pretext which prompted you to hurl a wrong question here for starting this thread. Your argument is about that Indian Muslim lady who joined BJP BUT at what cost ? At the Cost of her own values and by adopting to ways and attire that is considered by Indian Hindus as more closed to defining an Indian.

6. You and all other Indian members were and are trying to confuse things. because A. Wearing a sari or a shalwar Kameez is not the issue. The real issue is She had to replace her attire for more acceptance in Hindu dominated party. Now this is more important to note. Why BJP did not accept an Indian woman with wearing a Burqa ? Why she had to give up shalwar Kameez for Sari?


Why Indian hindu dominated political paradigm can not accept something that they consider more closed to Islamic values?


It clearly Shows and proves Muslims in India are welcomed as long as they are willing to distort their faith and belief.

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Very good points sis

 

[ek_indian]

The correct question which needs to be asked what defines an an Indian Muslims as an Indian.

The parameter is so clear. An Indian Muslims is Indian only when he/she is ready to Hindu norms. An Indian Muslim considered very Good and true Indian when he/she helps in preparation for dohsera and other Hindu festivals.

First the thread is not about it. Youare free to open a new one. Second, you have produced no facts/logic/evidence to support your . Now please do not post vague/singlestanding exapmples.

And yes....a Muslim is considered very good coz he is considered to have a open mind and big heart. But this is not restricted to Muslims only. Hindus. Sikhs, Christians all come under this. There are many Hindus who participate in Muslim festivals also.

As for true Indian theory, apart from very samll section, no body cares about true anything nonsense. This samll section itself is not comprised on one religion only. Recently Jama Musjid imam thrashed a news persoannal (who happens to be a muslim as well) calling him gaddar and what not. So imam is also part of misguided people who tends to define who is true and who is not.

When he/she arranges puja on different Hindu festivals. When he/she sing vande mataram.

And when he/she starts considering cow slaughter on eid as forbidden and a sin.

There are many other criteria for defining an Indian Muslim according to majority Hindu view point.

We all know vande matram is resolved. So chill out.
Cow slaughter is happening in India and as far as I know this is nowhere related to religion.

Now come to Pakistan NO Hindu, Sikh, Christian is required to adopt Islamic ways to prove him/herself as true Pakistani.

No one is questionsing that. Why to answer an question which is not asked.

As far as We being Pakistanis and being Muslims we are very clear

Pakistan is our Identity Islam is our Ideology.

Unnecessary chest thumping. No one has enquired about it.

 

[JamesBond]

If only some members could understand the question and the purpose of asking it...