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What can turn around pakistan

  • 1- nawaz sharif & bubloo from london

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • 2- Imran khan from bani galla

    Votes: 19 39.6%
  • 3- Bilawal young mind(with help of zardari)

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • 4- listening to establishment/Elite

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • 5- Reforms that will irk people and establishment and you will thus be booted out from goverment

    Votes: 22 45.8%

  • Total voters
    48
Only two options
1- Send Military back to their job and let politicians run their $hitshow even if they tank this country to ground.
2- Declare country a defacto Military state and run it with firm dictatorship no khasi system of politicians and army hybrids in power.

It has to be one or the other bcz there is no place to have grey system for our country to progress. Establishment has done too many disastrous experiments within grey areas so its time to give it a rest.

This Khasi Civil Military hybrid regime experiment is the root cause of state of affairs. There should be end to unconstitutional Judicial Military and Civil govt overreach in other branches of state.
 
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since PDM is now in power and may remain in power for quiet some time. I have decided to quit trolling

##so what can turn around pakistan##

We need Good policies and very unpopular decisions that will hurt the elite, so these are unlikely to happen

1- Energy independence--
Every country first solved its energy crisis. India, germany and china went for CHEAP DIRTY LIGNITE coal but since we are more responisble then germany (& rich) we went for oil in 1990s and LNG in PMLN era.
PPPP did spent a huge sum on thar so credit to them(JV with sino/engro)
PMLN didnt followed through their assesssment was thar is useless so they did not spent a penny.
PTI said well we have already excess power so we dont need any more projects and tried to cancel current ones till china got angry
We did see some hydro work in PPPP era and some expensive hydro signed in PMLN era (again without bidding)

So currently there is no real solution to problem, govt has to close old plants and cough up 400-500b/yr for subsidy on electricity, wait for more hydro dams to come on and add some solar on hydro dams to drop the price(since solar is very cheap these days)
We can increase demand by increasing ekectric vechiles, electric trains etc(ignored in ML1)

2- Food independence
Very little work done
Currently oil, tea, sugar beet, pulses, milk products bill is 4 billion dollars these are easily subs in few years but lacks any govt focus

Govt needs to idnetifiy areas, then distribute free seeds grantee return price and heavily tax imported alternatives

3- Small energering products mobile phones
Bill of 1b$
Mobile phones attracted attention, quiet abit work done but other completely ignored

4- cotton
A raw product since our production halfed
Some work done but hybrid seed adoption needed

PPPP had done excellent job in this area. They doubled rice production with better seeds

5- refined oil, petro chemicals
we have no oil refineries
little work done on this
4+b $ imports of refined oil and oil products
We just cant rely on foreign investment alone. Govt needs to cough up money and do a JV. Ban old refineries(stop buying furnsce oil) but elite wouldnt want this. Elite owns this refineries that were brough as SCRAP FROM WEST AND SETUP HERE)

6- primary education and banking
We have bad primary education and micro financing hence rural develpment is stented
We should learn from india and bengaldesh

7- health
Health card is a revolution.
However guidelines need to be establishment
For delivering care.
One if my friends went to hospital with STEMI and wqsnt given appropiate meds despite them knowing because they wanted to do a procedure for money. This was a govt hospital.

8- Taxation
FBR should be closed, everyone arrested and their assessts looked upon
Open up a parrallel CBR which should have hires from outside
This will fix tax problem but impossible since people and elite dont want this

Pakistan 70% tax is sales tax.

9- New EXPORT based industrial zones
We need industrial zones that are
1- free land
2- near to port
3- utilities like water, gas and elecriciy availble to them

We need these states near gaddani, omara and on coast line rather then inland

10- Get rid of old organization
Since elite will not let refinement
We should immediately sell PIA and steel mills

They can be sold for free. There loans should be taken over by the goverment (only way to sell it and all employees immediately fired
The foreign assets sold at appropiate timings

This will impact hajj and nawaz sharif foreign trips but so be it

11- Technical education

Govt needs to establish techinical schools in every tehsil..so far we only hace them at district level
We have more univerisities with MA urdu then technical schools !!!

12- remittences stream lining--mostly acheived no more space here

13- financing
We need foreign finanacing this should be acheived by using our assests
WAPDA has worked on this but other govt power sector distribution orhanization should leverage their assets

14- manfacturing

Govt needs to go into manfacturing with JV give zero tax and other benefits

15- judicary reforms
Credit rating and property protection
Increase judges number
Make separate courts for investors

16. Infrstruture
Complete ML1 and last link motorway
Need a new port near karachi as karachi wait times are high/gawadar too far

17. Tourism
Need visa on arrival for countries
Still not there

18. Terroism
Need safe city projects and usw to trace terror facilitators

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None of these are new things..you can find them in PMLN PPPP and PTI manefesto but noone implements them mostly because rich elite dont want to loose billions in their buisness..

So far PTI with PPPP close second have done the most reforms..
Inna lillahi wa inna ilyhi rajioon.
That's all I want to say.
 
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A honest leadership working for the betterment and uplift of the people especially the lower and middle classes (90%) of the population.
Army do your job. You are subservient to the people - Quaid e Azam said this.
Education for all
Hospitals for everyone. Affordable medical services.
Water
Electricity
Gas
Infrastructure which caters to the industrial growth.
Exports. Move from low tech to medium and then high tech
Jobs Jobs and jobs
Judiciary provide Justice for All.
Land reforms. End jaghirdars and waderas rule
Law and order which in turn will attract investors and investment.
Curtail non-development expenditures (establishment).
Development of minerals- gold. Iron ore. Oil and gas. Gypsum. Salt. Valuable stones. Coal etc
Give elected government their full term in office.
Reforms
Development of tourism
Development of water resources and reservoirs
Take active care of our depleting environment
There is so much more one can list down because no government has given any sort of attention towards these issues.
To summarize all of this: implement constitution in true spirit.
 
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  1. since PDM is now in power and may remain in power for quiet some time. I have decided to quit trolling

##so what can turn around pakistan##

We need Good policies and very unpopular decisions that will hurt the elite, so these are unlikely to happen

1- Energy independence--
Every country first solved its energy crisis. India, germany and china went for CHEAP DIRTY LIGNITE coal but since we are more responisble then germany (& rich) we went for oil in 1990s and LNG in PMLN era.
PPPP did spent a huge sum on thar so credit to them(JV with sino/engro)
PMLN didnt followed through their assesssment was thar is useless so they did not spent a penny.
PTI said well we have already excess power so we dont need any more projects and tried to cancel current ones till china got angry
We did see some hydro work in PPPP era and some expensive hydro signed in PMLN era (again without bidding)

So currently there is no real solution to problem, govt has to close old plants and cough up 400-500b/yr for subsidy on electricity, wait for more hydro dams to come on and add some solar on hydro dams to drop the price(since solar is very cheap these days)
We can increase demand by increasing ekectric vechiles, electric trains etc(ignored in ML1)

2- Food independence
Very little work done
Currently oil, tea, sugar beet, pulses, milk products bill is 4 billion dollars these are easily subs in few years but lacks any govt focus

Govt needs to idnetifiy areas, then distribute free seeds grantee return price and heavily tax imported alternatives

3- Small energering products mobile phones
Bill of 1b$
Mobile phones attracted attention, quiet abit work done but other completely ignored

4- cotton
A raw product since our production halfed
Some work done but hybrid seed adoption needed

PPPP had done excellent job in this area. They doubled rice production with better seeds

5- refined oil, petro chemicals
we have no oil refineries
little work done on this
4+b $ imports of refined oil and oil products
We just cant rely on foreign investment alone. Govt needs to cough up money and do a JV. Ban old refineries(stop buying furnsce oil) but elite wouldnt want this. Elite owns this refineries that were brough as SCRAP FROM WEST AND SETUP HERE)

6- primary education and banking
We have bad primary education and micro financing hence rural develpment is stented
We should learn from india and bengaldesh

7- health
Health card is a revolution.
However guidelines need to be establishment
For delivering care.
One if my friends went to hospital with STEMI and wqsnt given appropiate meds despite them knowing because they wanted to do a procedure for money. This was a govt hospital.

8- Taxation
FBR should be closed, everyone arrested and their assessts looked upon
Open up a parrallel CBR which should have hires from outside
This will fix tax problem but impossible since people and elite dont want this

Pakistan 70% tax is sales tax.

9- New EXPORT based industrial zones
We need industrial zones that are
1- free land
2- near to port
3- utilities like water, gas and elecriciy availble to them

We need these states near gaddani, omara and on coast line rather then inland

10- Get rid of old organization
Since elite will not let refinement
We should immediately sell PIA and steel mills

They can be sold for free. There loans should be taken over by the goverment (only way to sell it and all employees immediately fired
The foreign assets sold at appropiate timings

This will impact hajj and nawaz sharif foreign trips but so be it

11- Technical education

Govt needs to establish techinical schools in every tehsil..so far we only hace them at district level
We have more univerisities with MA urdu then technical schools !!!

12- remittences stream lining--mostly acheived no more space here

13- financing
We need foreign finanacing this should be acheived by using our assests
WAPDA has worked on this but other govt power sector distribution orhanization should leverage their assets

14- manfacturing

Govt needs to go into manfacturing with JV give zero tax and other benefits

15- judicary reforms
Credit rating and property protection
Increase judges number
Make separate courts for investors

16. Infrstruture
Complete ML1 and last link motorway
Need a new port near karachi as karachi wait times are high/gawadar too far

17. Tourism
Need visa on arrival for countries
Still not there

18. Terroism
Need safe city projects and usw to trace terror facilitators

####

None of these are new things..you can find them in PMLN PPPP and PTI manefesto but noone implements them mostly because rich elite dont want to loose billions in their buisness..

So far PTI with PPPP close second have done the most reforms..

1) Honest leadership which PDM does NOT have.
2) Establishment to apologize to public for playing the role of facilitator in bringing imported government.
3) Bring IK back with Tareen to put the economy back on recovery track.
4) PDM & establishment must stop putting hurdles in the way of economic recovery
5) major judiciary reforms and all judges and lawyers must be part of TAXNET.
6) New law to be implemented to make sure corruption cases to be resolved within 90 days.
7) The salvation of pakistan lies in removing provinces and making divisions as the 2nd tier of government.
8) Every system has to be digitalization, completely paperless system.
9) Decentralization a power to district level and distribution of responsibility from Federal, to divisions and districts.
 
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since PDM is now in power and may remain in power for quiet some time. I have decided to quit trolling

##so what can turn around pakistan##

We need Good policies and very unpopular decisions that will hurt the elite, so these are unlikely to happen

1- Energy independence--
Every country first solved its energy crisis. India, germany and china went for CHEAP DIRTY LIGNITE coal but since we are more responisble then germany (& rich) we went for oil in 1990s and LNG in PMLN era.
PPPP did spent a huge sum on thar so credit to them(JV with sino/engro)
PMLN didnt followed through their assesssment was thar is useless so they did not spent a penny.
PTI said well we have already excess power so we dont need any more projects and tried to cancel current ones till china got angry
We did see some hydro work in PPPP era and some expensive hydro signed in PMLN era (again without bidding)

So currently there is no real solution to problem, govt has to close old plants and cough up 400-500b/yr for subsidy on electricity, wait for more hydro dams to come on and add some solar on hydro dams to drop the price(since solar is very cheap these days)
We can increase demand by increasing ekectric vechiles, electric trains etc(ignored in ML1)

2- Food independence
Very little work done
Currently oil, tea, sugar beet, pulses, milk products bill is 4 billion dollars these are easily subs in few years but lacks any govt focus

Govt needs to idnetifiy areas, then distribute free seeds grantee return price and heavily tax imported alternatives

3- Small energering products mobile phones
Bill of 1b$
Mobile phones attracted attention, quiet abit work done but other completely ignored

4- cotton
A raw product since our production halfed
Some work done but hybrid seed adoption needed

PPPP had done excellent job in this area. They doubled rice production with better seeds

5- refined oil, petro chemicals
we have no oil refineries
little work done on this
4+b $ imports of refined oil and oil products
We just cant rely on foreign investment alone. Govt needs to cough up money and do a JV. Ban old refineries(stop buying furnsce oil) but elite wouldnt want this. Elite owns this refineries that were brough as SCRAP FROM WEST AND SETUP HERE)

6- primary education and banking
We have bad primary education and micro financing hence rural develpment is stented
We should learn from india and bengaldesh

7- health
Health card is a revolution.
However guidelines need to be establishment
For delivering care.
One if my friends went to hospital with STEMI and wqsnt given appropiate meds despite them knowing because they wanted to do a procedure for money. This was a govt hospital.

8- Taxation
FBR should be closed, everyone arrested and their assessts looked upon
Open up a parrallel CBR which should have hires from outside
This will fix tax problem but impossible since people and elite dont want this

Pakistan 70% tax is sales tax.

9- New EXPORT based industrial zones
We need industrial zones that are
1- free land
2- near to port
3- utilities like water, gas and elecriciy availble to them

We need these states near gaddani, omara and on coast line rather then inland

10- Get rid of old organization
Since elite will not let refinement
We should immediately sell PIA and steel mills

They can be sold for free. There loans should be taken over by the goverment (only way to sell it and all employees immediately fired
The foreign assets sold at appropiate timings

This will impact hajj and nawaz sharif foreign trips but so be it

11- Technical education

Govt needs to establish techinical schools in every tehsil..so far we only hace them at district level
We have more univerisities with MA urdu then technical schools !!!

12- remittences stream lining--mostly acheived no more space here

13- financing
We need foreign finanacing this should be acheived by using our assests
WAPDA has worked on this but other govt power sector distribution orhanization should leverage their assets

14- manfacturing

Govt needs to go into manfacturing with JV give zero tax and other benefits

15- judicary reforms
Credit rating and property protection
Increase judges number
Make separate courts for investors

16. Infrstruture
Complete ML1 and last link motorway
Need a new port near karachi as karachi wait times are high/gawadar too far

17. Tourism
Need visa on arrival for countries
Still not there

18. Terroism
Need safe city projects and usw to trace terror facilitators

####

None of these are new things..you can find them in PMLN PPPP and PTI manefesto but noone implements them mostly because rich elite dont want to loose billions in their buisness..

So far PTI with PPPP close second have done the most reforms..
hahaha ppp did excellent job some how some still trying to give safe passage for ppp hoth (ppp & pmln) political parties are equally corrupt & criminals corrupt must be need to finish from top to bottom with no defference...
 
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Establishment goes back to barracks.
Slash defense budget by 30%.
PDM stooges in jail where they belong.
Abettors, handlers, stooges in jail for conspiracy.
Free and fair elections.
Free to buy commodities from whoever Pakistan sees fit.
Ironfist accountability.
 
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Imposition of Zakat @ 2.5% of wealth is the solution to Pakistan's current economic problems and not increasing prices of utilities or fuel. Tax the rich instead of the poor.
 
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hahaha ppp did excellent job some how some still trying to give safe passage for ppp hoth (ppp & pmln) political parties are equally corrupt & criminals corrupt must be need to finish from top to bottom with no defference...
Everything is relative
Excellent job compared to PMLN
This shows how bad PMLN
 
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Imposition of Zakat @ 2.5% of wealth is the solution to Pakistan's current economic problems and not increasing prices of utilities or fuel. Tax the rich instead of the poor.
I'm not sure how much revenue the exchequer can get through the proposal you have put forth, but this is the only post that objectively addresses the cash inflow required to improve anything anywhere! Without proposal to get more 💰 for the federal government, all improvement ideas are just a pie in the sky. :undecided:
 
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We are already witnessing it. All those who are responsible for misery of my country and its people laid bare and exposed. The revolution already begun, let it take it course. Dont stand in its way, dont try to sabotage it, you will burn everything including yourselves. If this nation can go in a rally all charged, yet remain all disciplined, no property damage, no harassments of females etc etc. Just go and talk to anyone on the street and you will see how no body is buying PDM or neutral sponsored narrative, people after a very long time no who is the enemy and who is responsible for their misery.
Ever since Sialkot speech, we are on knifes edge, just dont F*UK with us.
 
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WE have a situation on hand in the country, caused by the premature departure of a prime minister in 44 months rather than the 60 months stipulated in the Constitution.

His early exit, forced by the opposition and encouraged by the establishment’s new policy of staying ‘apolitical’, now poses an existential threat to the country as it has triggered grave economic uncertainty and invited a strong negative reaction from large sections of the public.

The untimely fall of Pakistani governments is nothing new. Research reveals that the maximum tenure a PM has held in Pakistan’s history is 50 months. This was Pakistan’s first PM, Liaquat Ali Khan, who was assassinated on the job. From Liaquat Ali Khan to Ayub Khan’s martial law regime, prime ministers lasted an average 19 months only.

Only two other PMs among the 23 we have had since independence (not counting the interim PMs and military rulers) ever came close to Liaquat Ali Khan’s record: Nawaz Sharif, whose 2013-2017 stint lasted 49 months, and Yousuf Raza Gilani, who held office from March 2008 to April 2012 for 49 months.
 
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