What can turn around pakistan?

[ziaulislam]

since PDM is now in power and may remain in power for quiet some time. I have decided to quit trolling

##so what can turn around pakistan##

We need Good policies and very unpopular decisions that will hurt the elite, so these are unlikely to happen

1- Energy independence--
Every country first solved its energy crisis. India, germany and china went for CHEAP DIRTY LIGNITE coal but since we are more responisble then germany (& rich) we went for oil in 1990s and LNG in PMLN era.
PPPP did spent a huge sum on thar so credit to them(JV with sino/engro)
PMLN didnt followed through their assesssment was thar is useless so they did not spent a penny.
PTI said well we have already excess power so we dont need any more projects and tried to cancel current ones till china got angry
We did see some hydro work in PPPP era and some expensive hydro signed in PMLN era (again without bidding)

So currently there is no real solution to problem, govt has to close old plants and cough up 400-500b/yr for subsidy on electricity, wait for more hydro dams to come on and add some solar on hydro dams to drop the price(since solar is very cheap these days)
We can increase demand by increasing ekectric vechiles, electric trains etc(ignored in ML1)

2- Food independence
Very little work done
Currently oil, tea, sugar beet, pulses, milk products bill is 4 billion dollars these are easily subs in few years but lacks any govt focus

Govt needs to idnetifiy areas, then distribute free seeds grantee return price and heavily tax imported alternatives

3- Small energering products mobile phones
Bill of 1b$
Mobile phones attracted attention, quiet abit work done but other completely ignored

4- cotton
A raw product since our production halfed
Some work done but hybrid seed adoption needed

PPPP had done excellent job in this area. They doubled rice production with better seeds

5- refined oil, petro chemicals
we have no oil refineries
little work done on this
4+b $ imports of refined oil and oil products
We just cant rely on foreign investment alone. Govt needs to cough up money and do a JV. Ban old refineries(stop buying furnsce oil) but elite wouldnt want this. Elite owns this refineries that were brough as SCRAP FROM WEST AND SETUP HERE)

6- primary education and banking
We have bad primary education and micro financing hence rural develpment is stented
We should learn from india and bengaldesh

7- health
Health card is a revolution.
However guidelines need to be establishment
For delivering care.
One if my friends went to hospital with STEMI and wqsnt given appropiate meds despite them knowing because they wanted to do a procedure for money. This was a govt hospital.

8- Taxation
FBR should be closed, everyone arrested and their assessts looked upon
Open up a parrallel CBR which should have hires from outside
This will fix tax problem but impossible since people and elite dont want this

Pakistan 70% tax is sales tax.

9- New EXPORT based industrial zones
We need industrial zones that are
1- free land
2- near to port
3- utilities like water, gas and elecriciy availble to them

We need these states near gaddani, omara and on coast line rather then inland

10- Get rid of old organization
Since elite will not let refinement
We should immediately sell PIA and steel mills

They can be sold for free. There loans should be taken over by the goverment (only way to sell it and all employees immediately fired
The foreign assets sold at appropiate timings

This will impact hajj and nawaz sharif foreign trips but so be it

11- Technical education

Govt needs to establish techinical schools in every tehsil..so far we only hace them at district level
We have more univerisities with MA urdu then technical schools !!!

12- remittences stream lining--mostly acheived no more space here

13- financing
We need foreign finanacing this should be acheived by using our assests
WAPDA has worked on this but other govt power sector distribution orhanization should leverage their assets

14- manfacturing

Govt needs to go into manfacturing with JV give zero tax and other benefits

15- judicary reforms
Credit rating and property protection
Increase judges number
Make separate courts for investors

16. Infrstruture
Complete ML1 and last link motorway
Need a new port near karachi as karachi wait times are high/gawadar too far

17. Tourism
Need visa on arrival for countries
Still not there

18. Terroism
Need safe city projects and usw to trace terror facilitators

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None of these are new things..you can find them in PMLN PPPP and PTI manefesto but noone implements them mostly because rich elite dont want to loose billions in their buisness..

So far PTI with PPPP close second have done the most reforms..

 

[Black.Mamba]

PMLN can do

What exactly was achieved in the last 30 years by PMLN?

 

[ziaulislam]

PMLN can do but IK should stop container politics and let others work.

I agree ..we were fastest developing manfacturer and export were booming during 1990s and 2012-2018

We had excellent energy decisions and we implanted cheap thar coal plants during nawaz sharif era

Biggest of all we have excellent health refroms and many industrial zones setup during nawaz sharif era

Even though gujrat doubled it exports last year we surpassed them by increasing exports from 25b to 21000 million.

What exactly was achieved in the last 30 years by PMLN?

Alot

All big food chains are now operated by bubloo

In london

 

[Menace2Society]

Make people understand they will need to tighten their belts and suffer for 10 years and a competent effective leader to push through the necessary reforms.

 

[Wood]

It would be nice if you can allow for multi select in your post OP. I think the current government has to implement tough reforms.

On the content of your post, you have not explained where the money for all these programs will come from? Even improving tourism will require a blitz marketing campaign. Pakistan needs more loans for most of the ideas you have suggested

 

[Trailer23]

@ziaulislam
You started this Topic a few months back... How come you did not mention your Handsome leader?

future Hope, Junaid safdar nawaz join politics

 

[Black.Mamba]

Nuclear Power
One of the most disciplined Armed forces
Pakistan didnt become like Syria or Iraq despite facing worst terrorist attacks.
Motorways network all over Pakistan
Metros
We have one of the best doctors
Our pilots trained GCC countries airforce pilots

I can list 1000s of things...but waste of time explaining IK fans because for them IK is more important than Pakistan

I just saw your joining date, you must be the same troll from maryam's cell who travels to Sweden, the USA, France, and Pakistan in a matter of minutes.

- Nuclear power, armed forces, not becoming Syria, pilot training - have nothing to do with PMLN or any other political party.

- Best doctors - lol go and ask about doctors, and their conditions. If we had so good doctors why Nawazo ran away to london?

- Motorways - Only Lahore to Islamabad and that too for massive kickbacks.
- Metro - Lahore metro is absolutely useless, a waste of money and space, and poorly planned.

 

[ziaulislam]

Nuclear Power
One of the most disciplined Armed forces
Pakistan didnt become like Syria or Iraq despite facing worst terrorist attacks.
Motorways network all over Pakistan
Metros
We have one of the best doctors
Our pilots trained GCC countries airforce pilots

I can list 1000s of things...but waste of time explaining IK fans because for them IK is more important than Pakistan

Incredible
Now pakistan human development index is great with motorways we are at 140 such a big number best thing is motorways/meyros built on loans is it will stay put even if we bankrupt, ingenious plan...atleast the elite can enjoy prados.

Nuclear weapons are incredible assets hence why noone can dare drone our people in KPK we have therefore independent policy

With respect to syria thank people of KPK who revolted via vote rather then a gun

I just saw your joining date, you must be the same troll from maryam's cell who travels to Sweden, the USA, France, and Pakistan in a matter of minutes.

- Nuclear power, armed forces, not becoming Syria, pilot training - have nothing to do with PMLN or any other political party.

- Best doctors - lol go and ask about doctors, and their conditions. If we had so good doctors why Nawazo ran away to london?

- Motorways - Only Lahore to Islamabad and that too for massive kickbacks.
- Metro - Lahore metro is absolutely useless, a waste of money and space, and poorly planned.

How dare you
Bhahsa dam at 480b rupees is useless
Orange line at cost of 400b rupees(2.6b$ loan means that its now 500+b rupees) is far beneficial for people of lahore

Can you ride in bhahsa dam?? No, but u can ride in orange line. Infact bhasha dam is a hazarad so many people will die by drowning in them


Enough trolling for a day
@higmncprv Atleast claim more money i hope they are paying you per post rather then lumsum

I just saw your joining date, you must be the same troll from maryam's cell who travels to Sweden, the USA, France, and Pakistan in a matter of minutes.

- Nuclear power, armed forces, not becoming Syria, pilot training - have nothing to do with PMLN or any other political party.

- Best doctors - lol go and ask about doctors, and their conditions. If we had so good doctors why Nawazo ran away to london?

- Motorways - Only Lahore to Islamabad and that too for massive kickbacks.
- Metro - Lahore metro is absolutely useless, a waste of money and space, and poorly planned.

On doctors..i concur.. We have best docs in pakistan. The idiots like me ran away and sitting in USA/overseas

@ziaulislam
You started this Topic a few months back... How come you did not mention your Handsome leader?

future Hope, Junaid safdar nawaz join politics

Well they are now in power so no fun in trolling anymore..though my trolling was serious concern on the fact that they are being bought back in power..people thought i was joking there..i wasnt..signs were clear when maryum went quiet, shahbaz suddenly given relief and zaradari said we got green signal

 

[Asimzranger]

vote for chachi maryam, Pakistan will reach to mars

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Nuclear Power

Lol this was started and completed by PMLN?

One of the most disciplined Armed forces

Very disciplined indeed
The truth is that we have lost civilian governmental control over military.
There is no one to hold military accountable.
Thank you PMLN and PPP for their incapabilities to control military.

Pakistan didnt become like Syria or Iraq despite facing worst terrorist attacks

sadly this person is our PM now.

We have one of the best doctors

Ah
If only you could have encountered Pakistani government hospitals

Our pilots trained GCC countries airforce

And our civilian pilots have fake liscenes.
Courtesy of PMLN?

I can list 1000s of things...but waste of time explaining IK fans because for them IK is more important than Pakistan

No you can not even list 100 let alone 1000.

Metros

Orange line also.
Truth is they are making no big profits to help economy.

Motorways network all over Pakistan

This is good.

Do not post videos of Islamabad.
Islamabad does not make even 1% of Pakistani population.Islamabad is city of elite who do not care for rest of Pakistanis.

PMLN ruled Punjab (bila shirkat e gaire) and situation is that cholistanis are dying of thirst.no water.

Imagine your area has water shortage and your beloved leader rules that area for three decades and did absolutely nothing that can give you water.

Apne ap ko cholistani bana kar socho.Even PTI did not care for these poor souls.Thats the situation of our beloved leaders.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Importing cheaper oil from Russia/Iran can save Pakistan from economic crisis.

Heavy industries need to be restarted with the help of China and Russia

Agriculture sector research, dams, growing trees...

This is a race against time. South Asia already going through unprecedented heatwaves,

In coming times, wars will be fought for water.

India is already building projects on rivers blocking flow to Pakistan.

 

[MisterSyed]

Nuclear Power
One of the most disciplined Armed forces
Pakistan didnt become like Syria or Iraq despite facing worst terrorist attacks.
Motorways network all over Pakistan
Metros
We have one of the best doctors
Our pilots trained GCC countries airforce pilots

I can list 1000s of things...but waste of time explaining IK fans because for them IK is more important than Pakistan

The park in front of my home has been degrading since i was born, they strapped every old Swing off it if it was broken. Only in 2020 it got renovated and painted back. Islamabad 4k hd super uhd video won't help your corrupt noonie toonie a55

Alot of Places were degrading and getting destroyed due to rust and sh1t, They need to be maintained these Takaat ke Pujaris just made some roads to scam the public and left them to rust

 

[ziaulislam]

Lol this was started and completed by PMLN?

Very disciplined indeed
The truth is that we have lost civilian governmental control over military.
There is no one to hold military accountable.
Thank you PMLN and PPP for their incapabilities to control military.

View attachment 844178 sadly this person is our PM now.


Ah
If only you could have encountered Pakistani government hospitals

And our civilian pilots have fake liscenes.
Courtesy of PMLN?

No you can not even list 100 let alone 1000.

Orange line also.
Truth is they are making no big profits to help economy.

This is good.

Do not post videos of Islamabad.
Islamabad does not make even 1% of Pakistani population.Islamabad is city of elite who do not care for rest of Pakistanis.

PMLN ruled Punjab (bila shirkat e gaire) and situation is that cholistanis are dying of thirst.no water.

Imagine your area has water shortage and your beloved leader rules that area for three decades and did absolutely nothing that can give you water.

Apne ap ko cholistani bana kar socho.Even PTI did not care for these poor souls.Thats the situation of our beloved leaders.

Have you seen excellent roads in south punjab..ignorant youthia


Bottom line is pakistan cant prosper simply because elite of pakistan think the current struggling pakistan suit them best and it does hence why my otherself supports PMLN why @Areesh thinks i am a double agent

Importing cheaper oil from Russia/Iran can save Pakistan from economic crisis.

Heavy industries need to be restarted with the help of China and Russia

Agriculture sector research, dams, growing trees...

This is a race against time. South Asia already going through unprecedented heatwaves,

In coming times, wars will be fought for water.

India is already building projects on rivers blocking flow to Pakistan.

Lol.. Biggest problem of pakistanis is that they dont understand that world is captialist

China russia wont start your industry..your policies will

In 10yrs if pakistan survives(& will elite will make sure of it) we will be talking on how bengaldesh is power house just like vietname korea (countries in ruin in 1980s)

Make people understand they will need to tighten their belts and suffer for 10 years and a competent effective leader to push through the necessary reforms.

Not really
If you implement tax reforms and correct documentation you will noy only be able to get more revenues but be able to leverage more(more laons for development)

Issue has always been elite rather then anything else

PMLN PPPP are just symptoms of real problem ...

which is elites & corruption like me, who dont want to be taxed and dont want low margin exports or import substution or pay taxes on their business(service industry)

Same elites also basically ran the country when IK was in power

IK backed out of several reforms due to this

 

[Nefarious]

Default resulting in Pakistan spring

 

[Asimzranger]

Showbaz say mulk nai sumbal raha