Well done PDF! Now let's get to the other level

[HalfMoon]

So basically you want to unify Pakistan and India under muslim leadership, correct?
If that was the aim, then I think you would disagree with the partition altogether.

Jinnah was anyways offered to be the 1st PM of united India.

Partition was a tactical step to gain strength not the end goal.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Partition was a tactical step to gain strength not the end goal.

Can you make another thread and go discuss it there?

 

[magra]

Partition was a tactical step to gain strength not the end goal.

Without partition, there was a chance for peaceful muslim leadership of united India.
Partition fomented Hindu-muslim distrust and now the only way for muslims to rule united India would be a forceful violent struggle. In such a struggle, muslims are at an acute disadvantage since at the end, they dont have the numbers. Even if they somehow win, they would only rule over ashes as the struggle would lay down the entire subcontinent to ruins.

 

[HalfMoon]

Jinnah was anyways offered to be the 1st PM of united India.

Unlike Gandhi who was a failed lawyer, Jinnah was a smart and successful lawyer.

He knew that he would just be a dummy in India with Hindus pulling the strings from behind.

He wanted Muslims to have full power and control. Hence Pakistan was born.

 

[magra]

Unlike Gandhi who was a failed lawyer, Jinnah was a smart and successful lawyer.

He knew that he would just be a dummy in India with Hindus pulling the strings from behind.

He wanted Muslims to have full power and control. Hence Pakistan was born.

As PakistanForever has suggested, open a separate thread for this discussion.

 

[HalfMoon]

Can you make another thread and go discuss it there?

I am just responding to @magra

@magra Please create a new thread and do not detail this thread.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I am just responding to @magra

@magra Please create a new thread and do not detail this thread.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

 

[SIPRA]

Unlike Gandhi who was a failed lawyer, Jinnah was a smart and successful lawyer.

He knew that he would just be a dummy in India with Hindus pulling the strings from behind.

He wanted Muslims to have full power and control. Hence Pakistan was born.

Just to clarify, without going into other aspects of this discussion. There was no such offer, made to Quaid e Azam. It is all mere propaganda.

 

[HalfMoon]

Just to clarify, without going into other aspects of this discussion. There was no such offer, made to Quaid e Azam. It is all mere propaganda.

You are correct. Gandhi proposed it but Nehru did not accept it as Nehru wanted to be the PM.

 

[SIPRA]

You are correct. Gandhi proposed it but Nehru did not accept it as Nehru wanted to be the PM.

Gandhi didn't propose it to Quaid e Azam. He made this suggestion to Mountbatten, in a meeting. When Mountbatten discussed it with Nehru, he refused blankly. There is no historical evidence that Mountbatten ever even mentined it to Quaid e Azam.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Terms like Apna, Desi, Asian, Muslim merely weaken the national identity of Pakistan

Those are slang and regional terms and Pakistan was made for muslims so how does that weaken the national identity of Pakistan.

 

[magra]

Gandhi didn't propose it to Quaid e Azam. He made this suggestion to Mountbatten, in a meeting. When Mountbatten discussed it with Nehru, he refused blankly. There is no historical evidence that Mountbatten ever even mentined it to Quaid e Azam.

Gandhi offer of Jinnah PM-ship 1947 - CabinetMissionPlan

sites.google.com

 

[Mirzali Khan]

But then it lowers the quality of PDF and brings it to their level. Their is no progress or growth. It prevents PDF from becoming a top defence forum like the ones that the americans, Chinese, European and Russian defence forums have. Apparently, the indians have also now started trolling Chinese defence forums too.

The indians are too limited, low IQ and one dimensional. The indian mindset can be summed up by the following:

(1) india is the greatest civilisation and superpower of the world
(2) Pakistan needs to be destroyed
(3) If you do not believe that india is the hyper power of the universe, then you need to be insulted and shouted at.

The above is now too boring and tedious.

Ever since the Afghan stuff has calmed down a bit after 8/15/2021, I just went back to check out indian spaces and see what they have been doing and its all the same stuff lol "hinduphobia"and "hindu/muslim things" was not as entertained as the afghan antics.

 

[SIPRA]

Gandhi offer of Jinnah PM-ship 1947 - CabinetMissionPlan

sites.google.com

Read the contents again and tell me, where does it say that this offer was communicated to Quaid e Azam. What really happened, I have already told.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Those are slang and regional terms and Pakistan was made for muslims so how does that weaken the national identity of Pakistan.

Afghaniyon se phat ti hain Pakistaniyon ki...

They'll fight wars with India, are still fighting it out in some ways , get giga chad balls like no other nation when put up against India

but Afghanis are kryptonite to Pakistani balls

(read up on his views on Radcliff and Durand line post to understand what he is talking about, the Muslim identity alone wont suffice (I agree with him though- but this Afghani s*** is a weird phenomenon in Pakistanis)