We never lose friends, we simply learn who the real ones are.

[Homo Sapiens]

Please enlighten me ...I especially pride myself on getting the point

I didn't mentioned any individual western country's name in my earlier post.

 

[pragmatic_dude]

I didn't mentioned any individual western country's name in my earlier post.

Sorry...read fast and replied fast...did not notice the brackets highlighting Muslim world.

 

[Nilgiri]

The way hasina is bitching about Pakistan, forget abut turkey and other countries. Bangladesh will only left alone.

LOL, dont upset their fragile ego like that buddy. They will call you names!

We can all watch the reality unfold anyway after this current wave of dreaming in BD REM sleep.

 

[LuCiFeR_DeCoY]

You 20 million fools live here.

We make you pay 1971 tax of 15 billion per year. This also includes cost to feed 20 million Muslims of your country.

Why don't they go back to their supa pawa Bangladesh back?

Now, all the debt are well paid off you can take those 20 million and the Biharis to India.
And since you count people as refugee who displaced during 48 India-Pakistan division. Bangladesh has more those kind of people than India(my grandma father was from India, Nodia).We will be back to West Bengal in Millions

 

[Saiful Islam]

India came out to the first supporting of Myanmar over Bangladesh.
It's a big slap on pro-Indian Bangladeshi who support India over its national interest.They even choose not to join SARC summit in Pakistan after Indian request.I hope this situation will be a lesson they learn hard way.

We should be deepening our ties with Turkey, Indonesia and other countries who will support us in a critical situation.

They're hiding,

I do agree. Western civilization is far more civilized than Asian and Russian ever will be.
We have to choose a powerful ally who is powerful in the economic, political and military wise and will back us if needed.UK seems perfect choice, we have a huge number Bengali out there in the United Kingdom though I don't know if we have that kind of connection with them.

There are many British Bangladeshi charities that are on the ground in BD-Burma border & live television appeals for the whole month of Ramadan.

 

[mike2000 is back]

http://www.thedailystar.net/opinion...we-simply-learn-who-the-real-ones-are-1465180
12:00 AM, September 21, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 12:33 PM, September 21, 2017
We never lose friends, we simply learn who the real ones are

Weary and wounded Rohingya arriving in Bangladesh. Photo: AFP Photo/Munir UZ Zaman
Brig Gen Shahedul Anam Khan ndc, psc (Retd)

The reactions of some of our "very close" friends since the outbreak of the most recent Rohingya crisis have compelled me to ask myself as to where all our good friends have gone. Hardly have we faced such a crisis situation encompassing the bilateral as well as the international domain. And hardly have we been left so high and dry by those whom we thought we could count on during a crisis such as this. While our diplomatic capacity has been put to the extreme test, and we could have fared better in this regard, our capability to deal with a humanitarian catastrophe of a magnitude never experienced in the past, is being severely stretched.

It is time to ponder deeply on the long-term implications of the Rohingya issue. It is not merely a question of more than half a million refugees taking shelter in Bangladesh. The recent influx of a huge number of refugees from Myanmar and the enormous socio-economic problems they pose should not blind us to the other associated fallout of the issue; the eventual political profile and the likely security tenor of the region cannot be lost on our foreign policy planners, if there is any such group, and the foreign office mandarins.

An ethnic minority—more than seventy-five percent of them—has been uprooted from their ancestral homes and forced to flee Myanmar to Bangladesh. For Myanmar it is the final solution as far as the Rohingyas are concerned. About that we should never have been in doubt, more so after the exodus from Rakhine in 2012. The question is: how long can Bangladesh host these people without suffering the inevitable consequences? The essential point that international public opinion, particularly the regional countries, must be made aware of is, should the military junta presiding over a sham democracy be allowed to get away with what has been recognised by the UN as ethnic cleansing? The Rohingya issue has the recipe for increased discord within that country and outside it, which will be exploited by groups with ulterior motives. And this is why we must employ all our diplomatic efforts to persuade Myanmar to take its people back and create conditions to ensure the safety and security of the Rohingyas.

The Rohingya issue is a shocking reminder that there are no permanent friends or foes, only permanent interests. And all the three of our good friends—Russia, China and India—have acted on their own national interests. The blood of the Rohingyas has little to do in shaping their policy when juxtaposed to the strategic and economic benefits of supporting Myanmar on this question.

Since the commencement of the recent violence on the Rohingyas, Suu Kyi and her government have been dispensing one lie after another. And it was a continuation of that in her shamefaced brazen speech on Tuesday. She wants the world to believe that she does not know what is causing the Rohingyas (she prefers to call them Muslims, although a large number of Hindu Rohingya families have been made victims of the state persecution) to leave the country, and needs more time to find out the “real causes”.

Although the speech has drawn, justifiably, the criticism it deserves from around the world, three of Myanmar's staunch supporters have demonstrated approbation of Suu Kyi's narrative through their comments on her speech. When after all the killings and the violence perpetrated on the Rohingyas India feels “encouraged” by her speech and China reiterates its support for the Myanmar government's action in Rakhine, and Russia doesn't find any “evidence to justify” the accusation of ethnic cleansing, it is geopolitical and economic expediency that is talking, not principles of justice or human rights.

It is also time for us to ponder why a state that has been until recently a pariah has succeeded in garnering support for its genocidal acts from the most important international and regional powers. Why is it that the military leaders of this pariah state have been given red carpet treatment in major capitals of the West, and Suu Kyi, warmly welcomed at Buckingham Palace and the White House, while they were presiding over the persecution of an ethnic minority? Perhaps the one word answer to this is realpolitik. All ideological and moral considerations have been completely cast aside for the sake of their own national interests.

Given that we are virtually isolated on this issue, a robust diplomatic offensive must be launched, but we see no sign of it. We understand that an Awami League delegation will be in Beijing shortly to meet CPC leaders in Beijing. But one would much like to see government delegations also visit the capitals of some of the countries that can have influence on the Myanmar regime. We need to drive home to the Russians that what is happening in Myanmar is not its "internal affair", as opposed to what the Russians think it is. After all, a situation that forces nearly half a million of its people to seek shelter across the border cannot be an “internal affair” of a country. China must be made to realise that their short-sighted support for Myanmar for economic considerations alone will only create a fertile ground for extremists to exploit, and that would not leave China's sensitive regions unaffected. And India must be persuaded to understand that blowing hot and cold in the same breath only compounds problems. While it has merely voiced concerns “over violence resulting in the outflow of a large number of people from that state”, its use of the “extremist” card as a handy tool to prepare grounds for expelling the Rohingyas from its territory has very serious implications for Bangladesh. Expel them to which country we ask?

And Bangladesh, for one, must realise that realpolitik is still as relevant today as it was when first enunciated in the 1520s. That to use your strategic leverage is not only pragmatic, not doing so is foolish. That asking for a just price from your neighbours for their use of your resources is not only not uncivil but a practical proposition too. Regrettably, the policy of friendship towards all does not necessarily beget the same reciprocity. And it is only in times of your need that you discover who your real friends are, as we have done to our great shock this time.

Brig Gen Shahedul Anam Khan, ndc, psc (Retd) is Associate Editor, The Daily Star.

Lol This is something I thought everyone was aware of. Or maybe some people here still believed there was any "friends" in geo politics?

 

[livingdead]

Lol This is something I thought everyone was aware of. Or maybe some people here still believed there was any "friends" in geo politics?

bangladeshis love to play victim. imagine we call them traitor for buying chinese defense hardware(because we got beef with china).

 

[MULUBJA]

Iran seeks to lead islamic nations’ “crusade” against ‘genocide of Rohingya’
SAM Report, September 22, 2017

In this picture released by official website of the office of the Iranian supreme leader, May 10, 2017, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei speaks during a graduation ceremony of a group of the Revolutionary Guard cadets in Tehran, Iran.
Iran has stepped in to facilitate the resolution of the Rohingya crisis in Myanmar by calling upon Islamic nations, most notably rich Gulf States, to demonstrate solidarity with Burmese Muslims and impose economic pressure on Naypyidaw, Iranian experts told Sputnik, denouncing the ongoing conflict in Rakhine State as “genocide of Rohingya.”

One of the ways to cope with the Rohingya crisis in Myanmar is to reduce economic cooperation with the Burmese government, thus exerting pressure on the country’s military and State Counselor Aung San Suu Kyi, Iranian expert Sabbah Zangane opined speaking to Sputnik Persian.

“[Aung San Suu Kyi] must be deprived of the Nobel Peace Prize for inaction and violation of human rights with regard to the Rohingya people, as well as for her support to the military engaged in the massacre of Muslim inhabitants [in Rakhine State],” Zangane, former Iranian parliamentarian and former ambassador to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) told Sputnik.

The Iranian politician emphasized that “the Burmese military should not go unpunished and all responsible persons must be brought to justice.” “This is one of Iran’s demands,” Zangane underscored.

Although Iran does not have diplomatic relations with Myanmar, Tehran has stepped in to provide assistance to destitute Rohingya Muslims, who have been fleeing to Bangladesh amid clashes with Burmese government forces.

Zangane explained that Tehran was trying to act through international organizations such as the United Nations (UN), the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and other humanitarian structures.

At the same time, Tehran has made diplomatic progress: The Iranian foreign minister has recently met with the Pope’s delegation. Zangane emphasized that the Vatican has agreed to take measures to facilitate the resolution of the crisis in Myanmar.

Mohammad Ali Mohtadi, a senior researcher at the Iranian Research Institute for Strategic Studies of the Middle East, denounced the ongoing turmoil in Rakhine State as “genocide of Rohingya Muslims” and called upon the United Nations to bring an end to the bloodshed.

Drawing parallels between the current Rohingya crisis in Myanmar and the Rwandan genocide of 1994, the Iranian scholar bemoaned the fact that the UN and international community have yet to take the necessary steps to stop the crisis.

He also lambasted “wealthy Persian Gulf States” for not paying enough attention to the Myanmar crisis, while being “entangled in the web of their own intrigues in Syria and Bahrain.”

According to Mohtadi, the OIC should take the initiative and demonstrate Islamic solidarity with Myanmar’s Muslims, since Iran can’t deal with the problem on its own.

He referred to Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif’s statement calling upon all Muslim states to team up in order to find a solution to the problem.

On September 8, Zarif sent a letter to the UN urging the international community to take action to stop the Rohingya crisis.

Earlier, on September 6 the Iranian foreign minister met with Archbishop Paul Richard Gallagher, secretary for relations with states for the Holy See, in Tehran. The two discussed the ongoing conflict in Myanmar’s Rakhine State among other burning issues.

For his part, Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei proposed to exert both economic and political pressure on the Myanmar government, including downgrading diplomatic ties with the country.

Meanwhile, on Thursday, Seyyed Hadi Afghahi, an Iranian diplomat familiar with the situation, told Sputnik that Iran has sent its first aid shipment to Rohingya refugees and wants to increase its humanitarian assistance to the destitute Muslim minority, adding a 50-ton aid supply shipment has already reached Bangladesh.

The Rohingya crisis erupted on August 25 when Muslim insurgents of Rohingya origin attacked security posts in Myanmar’s Rakhine State. The tough response by the country’s authorities triggered violent clashes. According to Reuters, more than 410,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled the country since the beginning of the crisis.

The century-old conflict has gradually escalated since 2011, hitting its peak in 2012, while another escalation started in 2016.
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/09/22/iran-seeks-lead-islamic-nations-crusade-genocide-rohingya/

Why do not all the Islamic countries give refuge to Rohinyas? They should offer them asylums.

 

[livingdead]

Why do not all the Islamic countries give refuge to Rohinyas? They should offer them asylums.

the countries where rohingyas land should give them asylum... intl community should help if the country is overwhelmed with numbers... thats normal way...

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Why do not all the Islamic countries give refuge to Rohinyas? They should offer them asylums.

Why?

 

[Loafer]

Why?

They are Muslims.

 

[UKBengali]

bangladeshis love to play victim. imagine we call them traitor for buying chinese defense hardware(because we got beef with china).

What a silly analogy even by the standards of an Indian.
BD has a policy of equidistant from both China and India. Even if Indian defence industry was at the same level at China, BD will never buy equipment from India as only India can threaten BD sovereignty due to sharing of land border.
India, OTOH, openly sided with Myanmar on this issue where Myanmar is clearly the one in the wrong.

the countries where rohingyas land should give them asylum... intl community should help if the country is overwhelmed with numbers... thats normal way...

Rohingya have been in Arakan way before the Barmans and so they have more right to that land than the thugs that chased them out.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Hassina only has anti Pakistan on her mind. She has deep rooted hatred for Pakistan, anything to please her boyfriend Modi.

 

[livingdead]

What a silly analogy even by the standards of an Indian.
BD has a policy of equidistant from both China and India. Even if Indian defence industry was at the same level at China, BD will never buy equipment from India as only India can threaten BD sovereignty due to sharing of land border.
India, OTOH, openly sided with Myanmar on this issue where Myanmar is clearly the one in the wrong.



Rohingya have been in Arakan way before the Barmans and so they have more right to that land than the thugs that chased them out.

and india has a policy to pursue its foreign policy based on its own needs, not what a small inconsequential neighbor feels.
The argument was never about whether India is right or wrong, its whether India cheated bd by siding with myanmar.... at least for me... if you follow my posts.
I replied to a post that asked muslim country far away from action to do more, I am not going to reply to you unless you understand logic and conext.. ta.

 

[UKBengali]

and india has a policy to pursue its foreign policy based on its own needs, not what a small inconsequential neighbor feels.
The argument was never about whether India is right or wrong, its whether India cheated bd by siding with myanmar.... at least for me... if you follow my posts.
I replied to a post that asked muslim country far away from action to do more, I am not going to reply to you unless you understand logic and conext.. ta.

Please do not reply to me as have had enough of your nonsense.