"We don't support them, we have nothing to do with them" Pentagon Spokesperson on Kurdish YPG forces

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There is no separate organization called as "Afrin Kurds". All of them are governed by the same organization and part of the same political entity which is PYD.

When one says I support Hezbollah in Syria but I don't support Hezbollah in Lebanon, does that make sense for Israeli state? Would Israeli state accept this as a valid excuse, or would Israeli public opinion buy this?

By the way what is wrong with you? Can't you just discuss in a civilized manner without calling people "not bright" immediately, when obviously you are the one that seems so?

Afrin is separate canton. US never supported them and even never had any contacts with them. People who say that US supports SDF means they also support Afrin are indeed not bright.

This is Afrin:

And here SDF areas:

Hope u see the difference.

 

[Trango Towers]

The world is taking note that America is MOST treacherous nation on the planet. For it's purpose it will kiss you behind and when the deed is done it doesn't care about you

 

[Lure]

Afrin is separate canton.

Do you really want to go into that? Really? Who defined Afrin as a seperate canton? Assad? Last I checked, Afrin was part of the Aleppo Governorate in Syrian Arab Republic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleppo_Governorate

How it became an autonomous region suddenly? Who defined it like that?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/De_facto_cantons_of_Rojava.png

PYD defined it as one of the autonomous regions of a greater autonomous entity known as Rojava, which literally means "Western Kurdistan" in English. Where is the Northern part of this entity? I know where it is, but US diplomats told me to stay calm because PYD has nothing to do with Turkey.

By the way, special props to the retardedness of this organization. "Autonomous Region" inside an "autonomous region", well done.

The political entity that they all tied to is so-called Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Federation_of_Northern_Syria

Democratic Federation of Northern Syria (Just like it's retarded brothers Democratic Republic of Congo, or People's Democratic Republic of Korea) is supposed to be a multi-ethnic, ultra democratic, third wave feminist autonomous region inside Syria. Whereas in reality they don't even bother using that name and instead use Rojava (Western Kurdistan), which doesn't mean anything to the international audience, but means a lot to Turkey.

So, here is the political entity, here is the land it claims authority on, here is the obvious future vision from it's name. Now let's take a look at what US says?

We don't support Kurdish forces in Afrin. Kurdish forces in Afrin are affiliated with YPG, are part of PYD, also part of the political entity that is so-called "Democratic Federation of Northern Syria". So when USA helps Kurdish groups in the Eastern areas (including Manbij), make up some other name for them called as SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces), does that really mean USA does not really help Afrin?

As far as I concern, after the Euphrates Shield operation, Afrin canton couldn't merge into broader PYD area and became isolated. Since entire US narrative regarding SDF support is completely based on "fighting against ISIS", there was no legitimate reason to directly arm or train those left in Afrin. So they had to cut another deal with Russians, called them as protectors against a Turkish attack. That neither makes them a separate entity, not it makes sense to claim that the weapons or the training that US provided to the eastern part of this retarded region, would not diffuse into Afrin. That being said, there is no political difference between Afrin and the rest of that SDF region, so Turkey will have to target all of them.

Don't reduce the threshold for "supporting terrorism". Your country also have a struggle against terrorism and you wouldn't want some smart-*** diplomat come to you and say "Oh I didn't give any arms to the ones in this region, I only helped them in that region". That really doesn't mean anything on the field. The guy you train in Manbij goes Afrin. The weapons you gave in Raqqa ends up in Afrin. Arguing that obvious facts means actively trying to fool people.

 

[xyxmt]

US should do more than just denying like Pakistan does

 

[500]

Do you really want to go into that? Really? Who defined Afrin as a seperate canton? Assad? Last I checked, Afrin was part of the Aleppo Governorate in Syrian Arab Republic.

Facts on the ground. Afrin is separate independent entity since 2012.

 

[pak-marine]

looks like Kurds are dumped again

 

[Lure]

Facts on the ground. Afrin is separate independent entity since 2012.

I guess you need to show some more effort to understand the message that I've written to you Your reply makes it obvious that you didn't even understand what I said.

Discussing people on the internet has this downside. You spare some time and you write something in the hope that you will contribute to people's thinking, spread your ideas, expose yourself to other people's ideas etc. While in reality people don't even bother reading properly or even try to understand what you say.

This reminded me why I quit writing here two years ago. It's just a waste of time.

 

[500]

I guess you need to show some more effort to understand the message that I've written to you Your reply makes it obvious that you didn't even understand what I said.

Discussing people on the internet has this downside. You spare some time and you write something in the hope that you will contribute to people's thinking, spread your ideas, expose yourself to other people's ideas etc. While in reality people don't even bother reading properly or even try to understand what you say.

This reminded me why I quit writing here two years ago. It's just a waste of time.

You asked me a question I gave u a simple and clear answer. Once again: Afrin had contacts with Assad and Russia, not with US.

 

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Afrin is separate canton. US never supported them and even never had any contacts with them. People who say that US supports SDF means they also support Afrin are indeed not bright.

This is Afrin:

And here SDF areas:

Hope u see the difference.

This is Afrin.

This is Raqqah

This is Qamishli

This is Kobane

Well i see no difference.

 

[Cthulhu]

This is Afrin.

This is Raqqah

This is Qamishli

This is Kobane

Well i see no difference.

And here's the guy from that photos ☟☟☟

 

[500]

This is Afrin.

This is Raqqah

This is Qamishli

This is Kobane

Well i see no difference.

London:

Frankfurt:

Istanbul:

 

[Jugger]

ISIS is no fully defeated , although they have lost more than 70,000 to 100,000 soldiers. America should not stop its support of the YPG, it is the only truely secular and Democratic Organization as of today.

 

[Lure]

London:

Frankfurt:

Istanbul:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Federation_of_Northern_Syria

The map clearly shows that Afrin is part of the political entity that PYD is forming and USA is supporting.

This is not different than supporting Hebzollah in Lebanon and not supporting Hezbollah in Syria. The organization in Afrin is the same as the organization in the rest of the SDF area.

Either you are trolling, or you are imagining things. For both cases, please stop polluting the thread. People got your ideas. Many here also debunked your ideas. You keep pushing the same nonsense over and over again which makes no sense.

Afrin is part of PYD and a part of YPG. US not supporting YPG and PYD in their Afrin branch does not necessarily mean anything when they arm YPG and support PYD in their different branches. I will support Israel in Tel Aviv but I don't support Israel in Haifa. There is a Russian base in Haifa, so Russia supports Israel in Haifa, I only support Israel in Tel Aviv. Does that make any sense to you?

 

[xenon54 out]

London:

Frankfurt:

Istanbul:

500 Your smart you know there is a difference, one is sympathisants others are direct fighters.

 

[Lure]

500 Your smart you know there is a difference, one is sympathisants others are direct fighters.

He doesn't even read or try to understand what you are saying. He is just arrogantly saying the same thing over and over again or childishly distorts your arguments and replies to it's distorted version. Really a huge waste of time to reply a person that doesn't even wants to discuss with you in a serious fashion.