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Excellent post, and deserve positive rating, Heck I can't give you that.Most Deobandis are actually believers in peace and Islam. Deobandis are about 20% of Pakistan's population, for God's sake. TTP are extremists within that - they don't represent Deobandis any more than they represent Islam.
Now, if you have any understanding at all of what you are talking about, you would realize that the point I was making was that the TTP can not be Wahabi because they claim to be Hanafis - 'Wahabis', by definition, are ghair-muqallids, i.e they don't follow any of the four schools including the Hanafi school.
You don't know what you are talking about, do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you do not understand.
Salafis are about 100 Million of the world's Muslim population. If 100 Million Salafis were terrorists, we would all be too dead to be talking about this.
As for Salafis' actual stance on terrorism, read this: http://www.abukhadeejah.com/wp-cont...ad_ISIS_2014_Final_1_With_Bleed_No_Border.pdf
There is no such thing. There are many types of people who are labelled 'Wahabis', though very, very few of them actually call themselves that. Abdul Wahab was a scholar in the 1700s who strongly opposed what he called innovations in Islam. Honestly, a lot of his ideas are perfectly reasonable. He was opposed to the notion of 'Pirs' (a kind of 'spiritual leaders'; many of them are actual pious scholars, but there are many who simply take advantage of peoples' superstitions and don't have any basis in Islam) and 'Saints' being worshiped as though they were divine - however, he took it to the extreme through takfir, i.e outright declaring groups of Muslims to be non-Muslims.
He did not, however, have anything to do with suicide bombing or the type of violence we're seeing today.
But nowadays, the 'Wahabi' label is being expanded. It has become: "a blanket term used inaccurately to refer to "any Islamic movement that has an apparent tendency toward misogyny, militantism, extremism, or strict and literal interpretation of the Quran and hadith".
The label is also being incorrectly applied to all Salafis/Ghair Muqallids (i.e those who don't follow any of the mainstream four schools of thought and instead refer directly to the Quran and Hadith) and even Deobandis (even though they follow the Hanafi school, which is one of the four schools).
What is 'neo-Wahabi' even supposed to mean? New followers of Abdul Wahab? None of ISIS's statements or publications or anything identify them as followers of Abdul Wahab. You could argue they are similar in the sense that they are Salafis, but they also go against the Quran and Hadith - they are 'Islamic' only in name.
ISIS do whatever they want. They don't care about Wahab or Salafism (or any Islamic principles for that matter).
Well, one major division is Shia-Sunni. After that, within Sunnism there are four schools of thought, Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki and Hanbali. Within the Hanafi school exist Barelvis and Deobandis, who are at odds with eachother.
The Shias have their own different sects based on the 12 Infallible Imams and concepts that simply do not exist in Sunni Islam or the Quran (but they can be ''inferred'' through interpretations).
That's the gist of the situation - if you want more detail, do your own research.
Oh bhai jaan, Deobandis and Wahabis are about 20% of Pakistan. If they were a ''death cult'', you and I would be dead by now.
As for 'Sufis', which Sufis? I know of many supposed 'Sufi Scholars' who engage in sectarian hate-speech and takfir. Most of these supposed Sufi scholars (Barelvis) also support the un-Islamic Blasphemy Law.
Saying all Salafis/Wahabis/Deobandis are terrorists is the same as saying all Muslims are terrorists - we criticize non-Muslims for generalizing but then generalize among ourselves.
As for looking at them critically, that's been happening for hundreds of years now.
Right now I should not make any comment now, because I am still learning ISLAM. Could you provide me some link, which could explain me ISLAM easily. Got some website, but I am finding it difficult, to understand, and need some startup site, so that later I could go on detail.
The intention of my post was to point out it could be posibilities that the Quranic versis and the Hadith could be misunderstood, or bad translation, which could change the real meaning. E.G in Koran the use of the word when translated from Arabic is the terror in the mind who don't follow allah guidelines --- the use of terror might be wrongly quoted and interpreted, why would Allah would used terror, it might mean the respect, or any other meaning.
I am a Hindu, and I am proud of it, and know properly, how the hindus have changed various things, the VEDAS are source of the Hindus ideology, and its meaning is the Knowledge. The language of the VEDs are such that, it don't explain anything directly, and Hindu is not any religion, infact Sanathan Dharma is the right Religion.