We are not leaving Afghanistan at the end of next year: US

[indushek]

I don't if its my gut feeling or something else but surely this splitting up mantra could catch up with all the parties involved soon.

 

[Meengla]

yes, but it doesnt mean that the pashtoons are sympathizer to the taliban or want them. in a survey by BBC, only 6% of over all population of afghanistgan were in favour of the taliban.

Ahmad,
Respectfully, I'd like to say these 'polls' go only so far in telling the 'truth'. Public opinion often follows the prevalent 'ground realities'. Today the common-wisdom in Afghanistan may be that Talibans have no real chance of forming a govt. as they had pre-9/11 days. If if there are significant overtures to them, especially by NATO, then you will see things change.
Talibans are my ideological enemies. I don't wish death upon ANY human beings. But I have to concede that, largely because of India-Pakistan proxy-wars, the Talibans may still have a sort of a come-back.
You should not underestimate the tribal-loyalties. It is probably etched in the Taliban memory what happened to their 'brother' Pashtuns post 9/11. Incidents like the suffocation of hundreds of Talibans in cargo containers by the Northern Alliance are not going to be forgotten. I really wish they 'all get along' but that is a 'wish'.

 

[mikkix]

America will leave after 2012...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

America will leave after 2012...

Japanese gov has been asking that same question since 1950's

 

[Thomas]

america has done nothing good there , terrorists with kalashnikovs have made kebabs out of their sophesticated milatry, its high time US redesign its strategy in Afghanistan

Considering the U.S. has suffered the least casualties of any major war in it's history, Your statement rings hollow.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think Pakistan/US/Turkey NATO can manage Afghanistan , no need to go - more soliders sould be sent in

 

[Dance]

I think Pakistan/US/Turkey NATO can manage Afghanistan , no need to go - more soliders sould be sent in

We should stay out afghanistan...we have too many problems of our own. Its not our responsibility to fix their country.

 

[Ahmad]

Ahmad,
Respectfully, I'd like to say these 'polls' go only so far in telling the 'truth'. Public opinion often follows the prevalent 'ground realities'. Today the common-wisdom in Afghanistan may be that Talibans have no real chance of forming a govt. as they had pre-9/11 days. If if there are significant overtures to them, especially by NATO, then you will see things change.

brother, the polls are not 100% accurate, but it gives us an idea, that 6% support is enough for the taliban to cause chaos. it is easy to create trouble with minimum resources and manpower, but the difficult job is doing something postive, that requres alot of resources,manpower and engergy, the taliban right now are in a postion of creating problems, they can easity do it. dont we see the same thing in pakistan? what is the difference in pakistan and afghanistan when it comes to the taliban? i personally dont see much difference, if the taliban didnt have support in FATA, they wouldnt have survived with a strong challenge to the army, the army which is respected by many as a good and dis

Talibans are my ideological enemies.

that was a relief.

I don't wish death upon ANY human beings. But I have to concede that, largely because of India-Pakistan proxy-wars, the Talibans may still have a sort of a come-back.

come back to government on monopoly basis? this is a big no!! yes, they can come back and create a strong civil war and unimaginable bloodshed which will hurt our neighbgours especially pakistan badly as well.

You should not underestimate the tribal-loyalties. It is probably etched in the Taliban memory what happened to their 'brother' Pashtuns post 9/11. Incidents like the suffocation of hundreds of Talibans in cargo containers by the Northern Alliance are not going to be forgotten. I really wish they 'all get along' but that is a 'wish'.

There is a problem with pakistani friends, first of all they want to establish contacts with afghanistan on the basis of ethnicity rather than with the nation, this is their biggest failuire and they will continue to fail as long as they follow this policy, secondly, according to these respected neighbour of ours, the other ethnic groups dont have the same value of humanity as our pasthoon brotehrs, our plight dont get counted, which is sad. the taliban killed tens of thousands of civilians based on religion and ethnicity, in return, the taliban had their FIGHTERS got killed or sufocated, hope you see the difference, secondly, i never say the taliban dont have support, they have support to damage the already damaged country even further, but they will never have the support to unify the country and take it out of miseries, instead there will be a full blown civil war wich will affect you as well.

Today's taliban if have a come back on whatever scale wont be a good news for pakistan too, they wont be forgetting the humiliantion by pakistan on the arrest of their leaders and commondars, if you ask Mullah Salam Zaef, they will tell you how they feel about paksitan. in a separeate thread i had already posted an interview of the taliban commander with the guardian paper, that will give a slightly idea of what they really think of pakistan today which is different from yesterday.

 

[Bhim]

@Ahmad, isn't it strange that you say only 6% of Afghanis support Taliban, even when they have been in Afghanistan for so many years, and on the other hand a majority of Pakistanis seem to be in their favor, even when they have nothing to do with them???

 

[Ahmad]

@Ahmad, isn't it strange that you say only 6% of Afghanis support Taliban, even when they have been in Afghanistan for so many years, and on the other hand a majority of Pakistanis seem to be in their favor, even when they have nothing to do with them???

well, that was a survey from BBC, it doesnt have to be 100% correct as i said before, but it gives us an idea. as per paksitani friends, they can have their ideas.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

oh the yanks aint gona leave .. they gona fight and die some more .. !!!

 

[r3alist]

the cost of these bombs america drops on afghanistan are hundreds of millions - they do this with ease but cannot spend the same amount on developing the nation

 

[Jigs]

This is good news hopefully the troop surge will pay off in this time. I also hope Turkey steps up reconstruction efforts and training for the Afghan police/officers/farmers.

 

[into the wild]

This is good news hopefully the troop surge will pay off in this time. I also hope Turkey steps up reconstruction efforts and training for the Afghan police/officers/farmers.

the majority of pakistanis think this afghanistan war as a mess for pakistan which is destabilizing the country, even our government is bowing to american pressure and saying nothing of their leaving..

doesnt turkish people respect the wishes of pakistanis?? and convince allies to leave including turkey??

 

[Tshering22]

the majority of pakistanis think this afghanistan war as a mess for pakistan which is destabilizing the country, even our government is bowing to american pressure and saying nothing of their leaving..

doesnt turkish people respect the wishes of pakistanis?? and convince allies to leave including turkey??

But dude, why do you want the US to leave? It'd become a bigger burden on your Army to tackle the Taliban. US might not have been significantly effective in their strategies but at least it is keeping the Afghan division of Taliban Inc. occupied enough for u to deal with your problems.