War on terror costing Pakistan Rs90b every month: Imran

[India defense]

No according to article pakistan is loosing 1 billion every month not spending,

It's like saying because of electricity cuts, pakistan is loosing a billion dollars, hence the title would read, pakistan spends 1 billion every month to counter electricity shortages,
or
paksitan is loosing 1 billion dollars due to indian dams, because if there were no dams, there would be more water, hence more people would grow crops.

Loosing $ 1b means you need to have money $ 1B to loose every month......Does Pakistan have that much money to loose every month?

After seeing the title....it is $ 1b spending which Pakistan is loosing every month.

Question remain same where the money is coming from $12 b annually....

Claim something which you can afford to prove right

 

[Najam Khan]

"1 Billion USD a month" that is a big number,i seriously doubt this. How can PAF/PA sustain such big economic burden? Close to 1 Billion USD might be spent during an intense phase of operation in SWA (circa 2008/9) but claiming it to be norm would be unjust.

 

[lightoftruth]

economically incorrect and factually wrong.

 

[Manticore]

I've corrected it and posted the the link--- so get back to topic


costing/losing is different than spending .... as spending can be done on building a dam , while you wont 'lose' money on constructing a dam .. however whatever you say , this is a net loss for pakistan

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

From the mislabelled article; it seems economic advisors to Imran khan are just as bad as the finiancial managers of pakistan;
last year pakistan had asked for 2.4 billion dollars as reimbursement for the period from July 2010 to April 2011; later pakistani est decided to come down to 1.3 billion that is ~ 100 million a month. By similar numbers it seems imran khan and the members endorsing such numbers are exaggerating the numbers 10 times.

War on terror bills: Pakistan forgoes $1.3b claim under CSF – The Express Tribune

interesting..this is also from the same express tribune.the link says "LOSS " but when you reach there the Heading says "SPENDING ".

Pakistan spending Rs90 bn per month in war on terror: Imran Khan – The Express Tribune

Pakistan spending Rs90 bn per month
in war on terror: Imran Khan

 

[TaimiKhan]

Good reads on the topic for those who would like to read and understand what factors lead to the calculations and how its done. And if someone knows how to use Google and the search function, they can search themselves and read dozens of other articles regarding the losses suffered and factors which are involved.

http://www.issi.org.pk/publication-files/1299569657_66503137.pdf

Impact of Law & Order on Pakistan's Economy at operational level - CSS Forums

 

[Umair Nawaz]

War on terror costing Pakistan Rs90b every month: Imran / 2 October 2012 Pakistan was spending Rs90 billion per month on the war on terror,
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf Chairman Imran Khan has said while giving
final touches to his projected peace march to Waziristan planned for
October 6. Talking to reporters here, Khan said that the rally was designed to
express solidarity with the tribal people who have suffered death,
destruction and dislocation because of drone attacks. He was confident that thousands of people from Pakistan would
participate in the landmark rally which would also include
international media representatives and non-governmental
organisations. Over 30 civil society activists from the US will join the rally despite
various hurdles being created by the government. He alleged that
Pakistan’s High Commission in the United Kingdom has declined visas
to a large number of journalists and civil society activists from the
United Kingdom. “It shows that WikiLeaks’ disclosures about Islamabad’s collusion in
drone attacks was correct,” he added. He said people who did not want
peace in the country were against the PTI’s rally. He said due to the war on terrorism, Pakistan’s economy was suffering
about Rs90 billion every month. “We will meet the people of the tribal
areas to find a solution to the issue, he said, adding that it was his firm
belief that the only option with Pakistan is to quit the war against
terrorism. The PTI chief said Mehsud, Burki and Bhittani tribes of Waziristan had
assured him of providing security to the participants of the rally. It was said that the rally would start from the Blue Area in Islamabad
and after passing through Balkasar, Talagang and Mianwali would
reach D.I. Khan on October 6. On October 7, the participants will gather
in Tank and then will move towards South Waziristan where a public
meeting will be held at Kot Kai. Speaking on the occasion, US citizen Ann Wright, who is a former
diplomat and military woman, said most of the American people were
against drone attacks. “Drone attacks are illegal and criminal. We request the people of
Pakistan to raise their voice against them. We will go to Waziristan to
apologise to the relatives of those killed by drones,” said Wright, who
is also the spokesperson for the AntiWar Movement.


War on terror costing Pakistan Rs90b every month: Imran
War on terror costing Pakistan Rs90b every month: Imran

I think we should stop fighting others wars we should go with Imran Khan's plain to win the people's hearts get the people in our side so the could not be influienced by others n will work 4 the betterment of Pakistan military is NOT a solution.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Thats what I was doing.. Even for domestic spending it needs income.. rupaiyaaa ..moneyyy..

You just cant print the notes and spend it on ur likeness.

Instead of the usual typical hypothetical pathetic tag association , the question can be answered in a language suitable for forum discussions.

The word spending is repeated twice and as Roybot commented , Is there an account for the unspend , imaginary money on whose basis this figure on the title header and subsequent article has been ascertained?

Question maybe lame.. blame it on my pathetic usual mentality if its suitable.

He is not talking to u let the one answer 4 whom the Moderator had posted his answer

 

[jetti]

taimi, should stop PMSing and "be a man"

its obvious that the pakistanis are colluding with america in the drone attacks.
pakistan is being adequately compensated or have accepted the compensation offered. so whatever amount they quote they are losing, well they are being compensated.

 

[Thorough Pro]

^^^I think you should blame the article/Imran khan for that. Spending 1 Billion/Month and Loosing 1 Billion/Month are two different things.

Spending 1 Billion would be a certain amount, you would have receipts to show for, loosing involves a lot of wishful assumptions.

Apparently economics is not your forte, please troll in some other thread.

 

[monitor]

War on terror costing Pakistan Rs90b every month: Imran / 2 October 2012
Pakistan was spending Rs90 billion per month on the war on terror,
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf Chairman Imran Khan has said while giving
final touches to his projected peace march to Waziristan planned for
October 6. Talking to reporters here, Khan said that the rally was designed to
express solidarity with the tribal people who have suffered death,
destruction and dislocation because of drone attacks. He was confident that thousands of people from Pakistan would
participate in the landmark rally which would also include
international media representatives and non-governmental
organisations. Over 30 civil society activists from the US will join the rally despite
various hurdles being created by the government. He alleged that
Pakistan’s High Commission in the United Kingdom has declined visas
to a large number of journalists and civil society activists from the
United Kingdom. “It shows that WikiLeaks’ disclosures about Islamabad’s collusion in
drone attacks was correct,” he added. He said people who did not want
peace in the country were against the PTI’s rally. He said due to the war on terrorism, Pakistan’s economy was suffering
about Rs90 billion every month. “We will meet the people of the tribal
areas to find a solution to the issue, he said, adding that it was his firm
belief that the only option with Pakistan is to quit the war against
terrorism. The PTI chief said Mehsud, Burki and Bhittani tribes of Waziristan had
assured him of providing security to the participants of the rally. It was said that the rally would start from the Blue Area in Islamabad
and after passing through Balkasar, Talagang and Mianwali would
reach D.I. Khan on October 6. On October 7, the participants will gather
in Tank and then will move towards South Waziristan where a public
meeting will be held at Kot Kai. Speaking on the occasion, US citizen Ann Wright, who is a former
diplomat and military woman, said most of the American people were
against drone attacks. “Drone attacks are illegal and criminal. We request the people of
Pakistan to raise their voice against them. We will go to Waziristan to
apologise to the relatives of those killed by drones,” said Wright, who
is also the spokesperson for the AntiWar Movement.

Actually contradictory comments made the article confusing . if Imran wants to mean pakistan expend Rs 9 Billion means you have to pay a bill of Rs 9 Billion every month , on the other hand if He means Pakistan economy suffering Rs 9 Billion a month means the cost of suffering ans well as loss due to war on terror .

I think Imran Khan wants to express the latter one that how much Pakistan is sacrificing every month in the so called war on terror .here is a relevant article from Dawn newspaper

War on terror cost Pakistan $67.9 billion
From the Newspaper | 20th June, 2011

ISLAMABAD, June 19: Pakistan’s economy has suffered direct and indirect losses of up to $67.93 billion since 2001 due to its role as a frontline state in the ‘war against terrorism’.

According to the Pakistan Economic Survey 2010-11, the events that transpired in Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks in the US adversely affected the security situation in Pakistan.

Particularly since 2006, the war on terror has spread like a contagion into settled areas of the country and has so far claimed the lives of over 35,000 civilians and 3,500 security personnel.

The survey said the war had affected the country’s exports, prevented foreign investment, hampered the privatisation programme and slowed down the overall economic activity.

It reduced demand for imports and tax collection, caused an expenditure overrun on additional security spending, damaged the tourism industry and destroyed military and civil physical infrastructure.

“Pakistan has never witnessed such a devastating social and economic upheaval in its industry, even after dismemberment of the country by a direct war,” the survey said.

It said hundreds and thousands of jobs could have been created had economic activity not slowed. Thousands of jobs were lost because of the destruction of domestic and foreign tourism and increase in expenditure to support displaced people.

“Pakistan’s investment-to-GDP ratio has declined from 22.5 per cent in 2006-07 to 13.4 per cent in 2010-11 with serious consequences for the job creating ability of the economy.”

In 2008, the ministry of foreign affairs set up an inter-ministerial committee to assess the direct and indirect cost of the war.The ministries of finance, interior and commerce, some other relevant government departments and representatives of the two provinces bordering Afghanistan participated in the deliberations.

“The economy was subjected to enormous direct and indirect costs which continued to rise from $2.669 billion in 2001-02 to $13.6 billion by 2009-10, projected to rise to $17.8 billion in the current financial year and moving forward, the direct and indirect costs to the economy are most likely to rise further,” the survey said.—APP

 

[SMC]

taimi, should stop PMSing and "be a man"

its obvious that the pakistanis are colluding with america in the drone attacks.
pakistan is being adequately compensated or have accepted the compensation offered. so whatever amount they quote they are losing, well they are being compensated.

Even conservative estimates would suggest we've lost 40-50b due to WoT. The "aid" we've received is 10b (no, not 20b - half of that was reimbursement for services provided, i.e. 10b). A far cry from being "adequately compensated".

 

[VCheng]

Even conservative estimates would suggest we've lost 40-50b due to WoT. The "aid" we've received is 10b (no, not 20b - half of that was reimbursement for services provided, i.e. 10b). A far cry from being "adequately compensated".

Arguing about a higher or lower compensation does nothing to change the basic transactional nature: services provided for money. That fact is evident to all, the rest is only haggling.

 

[jetti]

Even conservative estimates would suggest we've lost 40-50b due to WoT. The "aid" we've received is 10b (no, not 20b - half of that was reimbursement for services provided, i.e. 10b). A far cry from being "adequately compensated".

e will nevr know until the details of the estimate is available

 

[humanfirst]

Even conservative estimates would suggest we've lost 40-50b due to WoT. The "aid" we've received is 10b (no, not 20b - half of that was reimbursement for services provided, i.e. 10b). A far cry from being "adequately compensated".

All those estimates are based on opportunity costs-Based on the projection on how pak ecnomy would be,if there were no war on terror..Not actual amounts of Rupees spent on fighting terrorists.