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Visiting India’s ancient monuments? Prepare for racism

Then... People Who visit Pakistan Should already arrange their Funeral ceremonies !!

Pakistan is comparatively safe country. USA also has lot of problem of crime if you go off the beaten path. You are welcome to make advance funeral arrangement before visiting Pakistan since we have few crematoriums.
 
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Yeah, the fleecing is very acute. Foreigners should be given a Bargaining 101 in flight. :D
Foriegners should do some make up and try to look like locals to avoid that fleecing but still, what about their ignorance of Urdu/Hindi. Bargaining skills will be of no use to them.:devil:
 
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Even Italy has different rate for EU nationals and non EU-nationals. This is a global practice.
because they have student union cards which they pay for and have some form of agreement....In fact this is not really true even when I was a student (not EU) I paid the same as a EU national around 25 yrs old...All you have to do is show some id which will varify you are below 25...Even my Ukrainian friend who was a student in Ukraine got the below 25 discount...So it is not exactly the same...
 
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Well I do not think that it has anything to do with racism of a country be it India or Pakistan. Perhaps syedali73 has been living in Malaysia for a very long time so he does not know that we greedy people charge the foriegners more, more in selling them exotic desi items as well.

He lives in Malaysia ?! Wow. even Malaysia has the same rules for many places.. and he didn't know that ? That's not possible.. Clearly a case of too much obsession with India..
 
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Ok I did a quick google search for this apart from 1 person from trip advisor claiming such a thing no one else on the whole internet has a clue of this?!

Interesting to know I have lived in ISB and well I have not paid a different price than the American lady who was in front of me....And I assure you I look Pakistani enough and she blonde enough with her accent didnt pay a single penny more than me! This was few yrs back though...Not sure if they changed it but I doubt it @balixd @Marshmallow can anyone please just double check this coz this is a first even Quaid's tomb, the gardens and everything else is of the same price for a local as for a foreigner....why Pakistan monument Museum?


it is true dont worry you didnt get it wrong...
 
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I relieve myself when flying over india, why come to that shithole.


Another example of PAKISTANI GENIUS.

Buddy if you relieve yourself in a plane flying over India the only thing you are going to stink up are your OWN PANTS.

Many a time when I see the goings on in our neighboring country, I think to myself, surely this can't be true, you would have to be an idiot to do this, BUT here you have it an example of why pakistan is what it is,:P
 
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Well I do not think that it has anything to do with racism of a country be it India or Pakistan. Perhaps syedali73 has been living in Malaysia for a very long time so he does not know that we greedy people charge the foriegners more, more in selling them exotic desi items as well.
Same guy!!!
Stamped!
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He lives in Malaysia ?! Wow. even Malaysia has the same rules for many places.. and he didn't know that ? That's not possible.. Clearly a case of too much obsession with India..

The problem here is not charging foreigners more. But determining who is a foreigner base on racial appearance. A foreigner who look like a typical Indian can get in while a N E Indian will need to pay foreigner price.
 
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The problem here is not charging foreigners more. But determining who is a foreigner base on racial appearance. A foreigner who look like a typical Indian can get in while a N E Indian will need to pay foreigner price.
Problem here ? Whose problem ? bugger off.
 
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Ps. Still can't frankly figure out why a Pakistani would want to go to India when there is a whole world to explore.
Ever heard of Sikh's hordes coming to Pakistan? Mostly the only Pakistani interested in India are those who hail from there pre 1947. Other than that all Pak are catching, running, swimming, hiding, hitchin lifts one way .... the West.

And I did not vote for Mian Saheb. I measure success as zero contact.
I relieve myself when flying over india, why come to that shithole.


Shamelessness reaches a new level with your country.


Simple - Because Pakistan has no medical facilities worth the name.
Thousands of Pakistanis come to India each year just for medical treatments. I wont even name the other categories yet.

This is just for one hospital:

Doctors said Aziz was the 500th Pakistani patient to have undergone a liver transplant at the
hospital.

"We have conducted 500 liver transplants for patients from Pakistan since 2003. Over a hundred were conducted in the last one year," said Sibal.

Pakistani boy, aged two, saved by vital liver transplant at Delhi hospital | Daily Mail Online


By 2013 itself,

Hospital Name : Current average patient inflow from Pakistan per month
Apollo Hospital : 50-60
Sir Ganga Ram : 30-40
Medanta : 8-10

India's medical tourism takes a hit on Indo-Pak tension | Business Standard News



Maybe according to you these Pakistani's should die because Pakistan does not have the concept of something called Hospitals or doctors.
 
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Shamelessness reaches a new level with your country.

Simple - Because Pakistan has no medical facilities worth the name.
Thousands of Pakistanis come to India each year just for medical treatments. I wont even name the other categories yet.

This is just for one hospital:

Doctors said Aziz was the 500th Pakistani patient to have undergone a liver transplant at the
hospital.

"We have conducted 500 liver transplants for patients from Pakistan since 2003. Over a hundred were conducted in the last one year," said Sibal.

Pakistani boy, aged two, saved by vital liver transplant at Delhi hospital | Daily Mail Online


By 2013 itself,

Hospital Name : Current average patient inflow from Pakistan per month
Apollo Hospital : 50-60
Sir Ganga Ram : 30-40
Medanta : 8-10

India's medical tourism takes a hit on Indo-Pak tension | Business Standard News



Maybe according to you these Pakistani's should die because Pakistan does not have the concept of something called Hospitals or doctors.

Atom bomb bana sakte hai liver transplant karne ke liye koi nehi...until 2010 there was no Hospital in Pakistan that had Liver transplant facility. I think as of now there is just one Hospital in Pakistan that can do liver transplant that to the doctors were trained by Indian doctors..
Try getting data from Dayanand Medical College, Heart Institute (Ludhiana) ....there are almost 100 Pakistani patient per week only in the Cardiac unit.
Kids from Pakistan operated in DMCH free of cost - Indian Express
 
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Incredible India!
Visiting India’s ancient monuments? Prepare for racism



The idea of who is or isn’t a foreigner manifests daily in a summary assessment of the skin colour of tourists queuing outside the ticket counter of monuments of national importance. You can call this a farcical display of discrimination based on colour, but it can be bruising nevertheless—for Indians and foreigners alike.

This shameful story of racism is an outcome of the Archaeological Survey of India’s (ASI’s) policy to have dual pricing for entry tickets to the monuments. Under this the foreigners have to pay several times more than Indians. For instance, to enter the Taj Mahal, foreigners pay Rs750 ($12.5), as against the Rs20 ($0.33) Indians do. For visiting the Red Fort or the Humayun Tomb in Delhi, Indians pay Rs10 ($0.17) and foreigners Rs250 ($4.2).

The problem is that there isn’t a mechanism in place through which the citizenship of visitors can be determined. No proof of identity is asked for, and whether a tourist is foreigner is determined by the person at the ticket counter on the basis of his or her notion of who looks Indian in appearance. The colour of skin and facial features become the clinching factors in this egregiously flawed process of determining citizenship.

Thus, anyone who is white or black is asked to buy the more costly ticket unless he or she challenges the person at the counter and furnishes identity documents to prove that they are Indians. Even a person such as Sonia Gandhi, who has relinquished her Italian citizenship for an Indian one, might run the risk of being declared an outsider, only because her complexion is foreign-white.

Judging by the clothes

The legal definition of who is an Indian citizen eludes the person who mans the ticket counter. His or her perception of who is a foreigner is almost always based on colour and sartorial style. Thus, Bangladeshis or Pakistanis or Sri Lankans can swing through the gates of the Taj Mahal for Rs20 even though they too have to pay a higher rate for entry—Rs510—which is Rs240 lower than what others clubbed as foreigners have to dish out. They could get into Delhi’s Red Fort for just Rs10, as their appearance wouldn’t arouse suspicion that they are foreigners.

Nor are those Indians suspected who are brown in colour but are citizens of another country. Really, who would challenge the identity of a lookalike of the West Indian cricketer Shivnaraine Chaderpaul unless he gives away his foreign-ness through his accent? No wonder, foreigners of Indian origin often have their relatives buy tickets at the rates applicable for Indians, evading the possibility of giving themselves away through their accented speech.

But judging the Indian citizenship of visitors from their appearance is demeaning for those who don’t have features or colour the ASI personnel consider Indian. My relative was asked to pay the foreigner’s rate at Delhi’s Humayun tomb because the person at the ticket counter thought she was from the Philippines. She had to speak in Hindi to avail of the Rs10 ticket. Some people from the northeast states experience this slight whenever they are asked, “You foreigner?”

At times, Indians are classified as foreigners because of their sartorial style. For instance, wear shorts, t-shirt and a cap, and you might be gruffly asked to pay the amount charged from the foreigner. To prove his Indian-ness, one journalist uttered the choicest abuses in the local language.

This dual pricing policy is justified on the basis that tickets for visiting historical sites abroad are priced far higher than they are in India, and foreigners, therefore, are not only accustomed to paying high rates, but can also afford it. It enhances the revenue of the Archaeological Survey of India, enabling it to maintain and manage better the monuments under its charge. But this logic is flawed—tickets for visiting historical sites in Asian and African countries are not, unlike in the West, priced exorbitantly high.

Resentment among backpackers

Charging higher fees from foreigners without granting them special rights to access monuments is both exploitative and discriminatory. Such policies are opposed because they spawn in a category of people a feeling of hurt and victimisation.

You might think tourists from the prosperous European or American or southeast Asian nations would be oblivious of the dual pricing of entry tickets. But ask Sanjay Sharma, who is the president of regional-level-approved Guides Association of Agra, ministry of tourism. He says the backpacker bunch resent ASI’s dual pricing policy and often whisper among themselves the inherent injustice of having to pay more than Indians to visit historical sites in and around Agra.

“The more prosperous of tourists don’t bother because their tours are organised through travel agencies which have already paid for their entry tickets,” said Sharma. “They don’t have to purchase tickets at the counter, which is where different rates for different classes of tourists are listed. Most of them are oblivious of the discriminatory policy.”

When the dual pricing for tickets was announced well over a decade ago, Sharma says Agra witnessed protests and dharnas (demonstrations) against it. Even the Allahabad high court was petitioned, he said, but the dual pricing policy was upheld. “The differential ticket rates speak poorly for India,” Sharma said. “Do Indian citizens have to pay a higher entry fee than the Europeans for visiting museums or historical sites in their countries?”

He says some restaurants owners have taken to printing two sets of menu cards—the costlier one is presented to the foreigners. As is the case at the monuments, the colour of skin is the principal determinant of who is a foreigner. Point to the unfairness of this practice and these restaurateurs will, in the manner of the government, shoot back: Isn’t eating out far costlier in Europe than in India?

Visiting India’s ancient monuments? Prepare for racism – Quartz


Since when is non-Indian a race? Do all foreigners belong to one race then?
 
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Now that you did liver transplant any chance you could spare food for 230 million starving Indians. Just to put that in perspective 230 million is more than the entire population of Pakistan's population 190 million.

Think of all those tiny starving Indian babies would they not appreciate more India's largesse then a few humpy Pakistani's liver patients?

* Aga Khan University Hospital, Karachi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* Aga Khan University Hospital, Pakistan - Home
* Welcome to AL SHIFA HOSPITAL PVT. LTD.
* Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital & Research Centre

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Do I have to post more? Now talking of shame, go and feed your own starving Indian babies before touting about hospital you dispicable people.
 
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The problem here is not charging foreigners more. But determining who is a foreigner base on racial appearance. A foreigner who look like a typical Indian can get in while a N E Indian will need to pay foreigner price.

I know you just love to jerk off at even the slightest prospect of vilifying Indians but that's not being racist. That's called "ignorance" on part of the ticket vendors, who man most of the monuments of India, are barely literate, forget being properly educated!
 
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Now that you did liver transplant any chance you could spare food for 230 million starving Indians. Just to put that in perspective 230 million is more than the entire population of Pakistan's population 190 million.

Think of all those tiny starving Indian babies would they not appreciate more India's largesse then a few humpy Pakistani's liver patients?

* Aga Khan University Hospital, Karachi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* Aga Khan University Hospital, Pakistan - Home
* Welcome to AL SHIFA HOSPITAL PVT. LTD.
* Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital & Research Centre

Need I go on ?

Home1.jpg

quaid-e-azam-international-hospital-office.jpg


images


122-2.jpg


Shifa-International-Hospital-Islamabad.jpg


hospitals-in-pakistan.jpg


aga-khan-university-karachi1.jpg


Do I have to post more? Now talking of shame, go and feed your own starving Indian babies before touting about hospital you dispicable people.
The Indians may be hungry, but atleast they don't go to Pakistan to eat food.

For a country that says India is its enemy, it takes a great deal and a special kind of shamelessness as a country and as a people to go to the enemy for medical facilities in the thousands each year. I don't mention the many tens of thousands who come on religious visits because for many that is obligatory and cannot be changed.

But for something that can be changed, I wonder why this extreme level of shamelessness of going to India for doctors and facilities. I guess it shows the culture.
 
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