Vinfast one step closer to produce cars

[empirefighter]

I think it is very very difficult for small country like Vietnam to join in the auto market. It is too late for the comers, even for us, even we have occupied more than 90% of truck and bus market share at home for decades, even we have much better industrial foundation and much bigger home market than Vietnam, we are still struggling to compete with Germany and Japanese car companies, mainly because we join the game too late and the foreign brands are reputable for decades. For now, my government obviously give up the hope to defeat Germany and Japan car companies in traditional technology, we gamble the success on electrical technology.
Conclusion: Best luck to Vietnam, but the hope is very tiny. Making electrical car will be a better chance.

 

[Viet]

I think it is very very difficult for small country like Vietnam to join in the auto market. It is too late for the comers, even for us, even we have occupied more than 90% of truck and bus market share at home for decades, even we have much better industrial foundation and much bigger home market than Vietnam, we are still struggling to compete with Germany and Japanese car companies, mainly because we join the game too late and the foreign brands are reputable for decades. For now, my government obviously give up the hope to defeat Germany and Japan car companies in traditional technology, we gamble the success on electrical technology.
Conclusion: Best luck to Vietnam, but the hope is very tiny. Making electrical car will be a better chance.

It’s never too late. Say never never. How do want to compete against cars made in German and Japan if you make low quality car as such that is proposed by Indonesia and Malaysia? Asean car? What is that?

Vinfast has a different approach: it clones complete car making technology from the West, especially from the Germans including Dualausbildungssystem.

 

[empirefighter]

It’s never too late. Say never never. How do want to compete against cars made in German and Japan if you make low quality car as such that is proposed by Indonesia and Malaysia? Asean car? What is that?

Vinfast has a different approach: it clones complete car making technology from the West, especially from the Germans including Dualausbildungssystem.

I really think you are too optimistic. Very simple: 1.Your aproach is nothing special and every normal man would do that.But I cannot see why the German are happy to let you clone their technology, the German has missed the Internet era and only has car industry left, auto industry is Very Very important to their economy. Even we have cooperated with the Germany carcompany for more than 3 decades, they never show advanced technology to us and we still learn very little from them, so we learn by our ownself. It is over optimistic to rely on any foreigners. 2.Auto industry include tens of thousand of parts, it is not easy to clone when you lack of industry foundation. The spirit is very good and wish good luck.

 

[Viet]

I really think you are too optimistic. Very simple: 1.Your aproach is nothing special and every normal man would do that.But I cannot see why the German are happy to let you clone their technology, the German has missed the Internet era and only has car industry left, auto industry is Very Very important to their economy. Even we have cooperated with the Germany carcompany for more than 3 decades, they never show advanced technology to us and we still learn very little from them, so we learn by our ownself. It is over optimistic to rely on any foreigners. 2.Auto industry include tens of thousand of parts, it is not easy to clone when you lack of industry foundation. The spirit is very good and wish good luck.

Look,when the people especially the Chinese think of SE Asia,they see stereotypes: Vietnam exporting girls, Indonesia exports maids,Philippines banana, Thailand sex tourism,etc. everything in poverty and primitiveness. Yes you are right we need more than luck. However If Vietnam succeeds,the people will look at SE Asia by different eyes in the future. In this aspect you should back Vietnam.

 

[Nike]

It’s never too late. Say never never. How do want to compete against cars made in German and Japan if you make low quality car as such that is proposed by Indonesia and Malaysia? Asean car? What is that?

Vinfast has a different approach: it clones complete car making technology from the West, especially from the Germans including Dualausbildungssystem.

Lol, clones? What i can see is clown car, rebranding german car and call it viet car

 

[Viet]

Lol, clones? What i can see is clown car, rebranding german car and call it viet car

yes cloning. Vinfast acquires car technology patents from BMW.

https://www.automobil-produktion.de...nutzt-produktionstechnologie-von-bmw-127.html

 

[Viet]

Wait until Vinfast runs on the streets for 10 years then...BRAG.

why not? there is a country bragging on railgun, aicraft carrier that soon surpasses the US navy

BMW 7

Vinfast limo

 

[empirefighter]

Look,when the people especially the Chinese think of SE Asia,they see stereotypes: Vietnam exporting girls, Indonesia exports maids,Philippines banana, Thailand sex tourism,etc. everything in poverty and primitiveness. Yes you are right we need more than luck. However If Vietnam succeeds,the people will look at SE Asia by different eyes in the future. In this aspect you should back Vietnam.

"Vietnam exporting girls, Indonesia exports maids,Philippines banana, Thailand sex tourism,etc. everything in poverty and primitiveness."
I think the above is only your thought, or mainly from the Westerners viewpoint, not from common Chinese viewpoint. The Chinese government or newspaper never humiliate other foreign countries with bad words or labels, even the poorest or worst country. We are big country, the labels on a country is usually full of prejudice and unreal, the prejudice may narrow our mind and hurt our own national interest in the end. We all know a famous word: Weakness is not the obstacle of survival, but the arrogance.
The first viewpoint of normal Chinese is mainly like this: Vietnam, unfriendly people, hostile country but have similar culture with us; Indonesia, unfriendly people, Muslim country; Philippines, friendly people, little puppet of USA; Thailand, friendly people, neutral country. We do not care about the politics, technology, maids, banana or other things of SE Asia, most of Chinese just want to go to SE Asia for a short time journey and feel different culture, that is all. So I do not think common Chinese would label SE Asia country "poverty and primitiveness".

 

[initial_d]

why not? there is a country bragging on railgun, aicraft carrier that soon surpasses the US navy

BMW 7

Vinfast limo

A Limo.....a Roadster....a high end sedan!!!
Do vinfast really gonna make high end cars instead of low cost green car type SUV/MPV!!?? If it is, i predict vinfast will fail, who will buy a high end cars with vietnamese badge even though it is a re badging of BMW!!?? For me, i'll rather buy german brand car like Mercedes Benz, Audi or BMW, Or a high end japanese brand car like Lexus, even the chinese and indian brand car (Baojun/Wuling-TATA) fail selling LCGC car in indonesia even though it's more cheaper than Japanese car

 

[Viet]

A Limo.....a Roadster....a high end sedan!!!
Do vinfast really gonna make high end cars instead of low cost green car type SUV/MPV!!?? If it is, i predict vinfast will fail, who will buy a high end cars with vietnamese badge even though it is a re badging of BMW!!?? For me, i'll rather buy german brand car like Mercedes Benz, Audi or BMW, Or a high end japanese brand car like Lexus, even the chinese and indian brand car (Baojun/Wuling-TATA) fail selling LCGC car in indonesia even though it's more cheaper than Japanese car

Original BMW cars are very expensive. Buying Vietnam cars is an option for people that haven’t much money but want high quality cars.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Have you heard that malaysian and indonesian govt just team up to build and produce cars with it's own brand, a first step on ASEAN brand car
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nat...-malaysia-team-up-to-develop-local-car-brand/
Btw, those vinfast design car and logos are great, do vinfast use european designer firm!?
Congrats for vietnam for the achievement

First: Indo is Not TPP nations, so Cars manufacturing in Indo cant sell to TPP market.

Second: can u show us the factory for that car ?? ...or its still on paper ??

 

[Viva_Viet]

I think it is very very difficult for small country like Vietnam to join in the auto market. It is too late for the comers, even for us, even we have occupied more than 90% of truck and bus market share at home for decades, even we have much better industrial foundation and much bigger home market than Vietnam, we are still struggling to compete with Germany and Japanese car companies, mainly because we join the game too late and the foreign brands are reputable for decades. For now, my government obviously give up the hope to defeat Germany and Japan car companies in traditional technology, we gamble the success on electrical technology.
Conclusion: Best luck to Vietnam, but the hope is very tiny. Making electrical car will be a better chance.

Thats true, but trying something is still better than never try it. Vingroup has lots of money anyway, so let her try.

VN also have TPP market to support our car while Germany car selling in TPP get get much higher price, JP car mainly manufacturing in Thailan, a none TPP nation, so its car also got higher price than Vinfast car.

 

[initial_d]

First: Indo is Not TPP nations, so Cars manufacturing in Indo cant sell to TPP market.

Second: can u show us the factory for that car ?? ...or its still on paper ??

The factory gonna be use are the same factory that being built for japanese/malaysian cars brand with new indonesian-malaysian badge, we also in talk with thailand and the phillipine to create this venture, all four nation have the ability to create spare parts and engine block, the one that not set up are design centre, and i believe this venture will only make small SUV/MPV, busses and trucks, this venture is to grasp main ASEAN market in INDONESIA-MALAYSIA-THAILAND-PHILIPINE and not for global market, it may exported it to Africa and others 3rd world country, we have to wait for the four govt to agree on shares, design, name etc
https://m.detik.com/oto/mobil/4159912/ri-malaysia-buat-mobil-asean
https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/m.li...esia-dan-malaysia-semakin-serius-ini-buktinya
https://paultan.org/2018/06/29/revive-malaysia-indonesia-asean-car-project-pm/

 

[Viet]

The factory gonna be use are the same factory that being built for japanese/malaysian cars brand with new indonesian-malaysian badge, we also in talk with thailand and the phillipine to create this venture, all four nation have the ability to create spare parts and engine block, the one that not set up are design centre, and i believe this venture will only make small SUV/MPV, busses and trucks, this venture is to grasp main ASEAN market in INDONESIA-MALAYSIA-THAILAND-PHILIPINE and not for global market, it may exported it to Africa and others 3rd world country, we have to wait for the four govt to agree on shares, design, name etc
https://m.detik.com/oto/mobil/4159912/ri-malaysia-buat-mobil-asean
https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/m.li...esia-dan-malaysia-semakin-serius-ini-buktinya
https://paultan.org/2018/06/29/revive-malaysia-indonesia-asean-car-project-pm/

How is going to work? Who are the owners of current factories? You mean those factories will produce Japan branded cars at dayshift and will produce Asean cars at night shift? All 4 countries have no technology and will import everything from zero.

People need stark imagination.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Thats true, but trying something is still better than never try it. Vingroup has lots of money anyway, so let her try.

VN also have TPP market to support our car while Germany car selling in TPP get get much higher price, JP car mainly manufacturing in Thailan, a none TPP nation, so its car also got higher price than Vinfast car.

Vinfast are built with BMW's technologies meaning it will not able to muscle in BMW's markets without setting up restrictions. Like in Japan for example.

Any vinfast dealership will be at a disadvantage. While BMW reaps all the profits for each vin cars sold.

The German just played you guys for suckers.

This is another Timor in the making.
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-story-of-timor-1698087656