Vietnamese old pictures

[Viet]

Ming Dynasty styled clothes.

vietnam considers the ming as chinese dynasty. the manchu were invader and dirty babarians.

 

[Viet]

武则天 Wuzetian

nice. though, the later nguyens adopted some different clothing styles: a pic of the present prince and princess of the Nguyen (they now live in Paris):

 

[Keel]

nice. though, the nguyens adopted some different clothing styles: the present prince and princes of the Nguyen (they live in Paris):
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The Viet princess‘ dress fits in our costume profiles

 

[Viet]

The Viet princess‘ dress fits in our costume profiles

the dress are very nice. from the Ming, right? I like it.

some more from VN Kingdom:
Empress Nam Phuong (1920)

Emperor Bao Dai in Paris (1930s)

 

[EastSea]

Ming Dynasty styled clothes.

Ming Dynasty China is from South China. Ming copied and modified cloth type from Bai Yue.

Do you have a problem with the Qing Dynasty?

They were the one who gave a name (Vietnam or Yuenan) for your country.

The country name of Vietnam is created by Nguyễn Bỉnh Khiêm (chữ Hán: 阮秉謙; 1491–1585),

Nguyễn Bỉnh Khiêm – Wikipedia tiếng Việt

This is the Vietnamese equivalent of the Nostradamus quatrains. It is suggestive, believed to predict future events, and very mysterious. This poem includes the line, "Vietnam is being created" (Vietnamese: Việt Nam khởi tổ xây nền),. an early use of the word "Vietnam".

Nguyễn Bỉnh Khiêm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[William Hung]

nice. though, the later nguyens adopted some different clothing styles: a pic of the present prince and princess of the Nguyen (they now live in Paris):
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Their costume looks so ugly and cheap, like they've just bought it at their local Chinatown.

I also think a lot of Qing style royal court dress looks mighty cool (not the female version):

Looks alot better than that Ming style worn by the Viet royal.

 

[Sommer]

Just some fotos from Vietnam.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ming Dynasty China is from South China. Ming copied and modified cloth type from Bai Yue.

lol, Ming copied from Baiyue?

At the time of the Ming Dynasty, Baiyue didn't exist anymore.

 

[Grand Historian]

lol, Ming copied from Baiyue?

At the time of the Ming Dynasty, Baiyue didn't exist anymore.

This is what happens when countries cover up history in an attempt to push out the narrative of a nation state.

He is merely projecting his insecurities that the Chinese "stole" their culture from the Baiyue and that Vietnamese borrowed nothing from China.

In reality we have a confused group of people who on one hand proclaimed themselves the true successors of Chinese dynasties while maintaining a view that they were more civilized ie Sinicized(I recall the Japanese and Koreans did this too) than frontier people while their modern day descendants try to reject this shameful past by claiming that there was a Vietnamese identity prior to Chinese settlement.

Reality is harsh,and some people can't handle that their surnames,culture,language,architecture,customs,religions etc. are derived from other cultures.

As for Ming dynasty clothing the influences were from the Mongols,not southern aboriginals.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This is what happens when countries cover up history in an attempt to push out the narrative of a nation state.

He is merely projecting his insecurities that the Chinese "stole" their culture from the Baiyue and that Vietnamese borrowed nothing from China.

In reality we have a confused group of people who on one hand proclaimed themselves the true successors of Chinese dynasties while maintaining a view that they were more civilized ie Sinicized(I recall the Japanese and Koreans did this too) than frontier people while their modern day descendants try to reject this shameful past by claiming that there was a Vietnamese identity prior to Chinese settlement.

Reality is harsh,and some people can't handle that their surnames,culture,language,architecture,customs,religions etc. are derived from other cultures.

As for Ming dynasty clothing the influences were from the Mongols,not southern aboriginals.

PS, the official dialect for the Ming Dynasty was the Guanhua spoken at Yangzhou.

It is a special sub-dialect of Guanhua which is spoken in the eastern part of China.

Lower Yangtze Mandarin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[EastSea]

Just some fotos from Vietnam.
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The first pic is Vietnamese/Kinh people. Others pics are from Montagnager people.

This is what happens when countries cover up history in an attempt to push out the narrative of a nation state.

He is merely projecting his insecurities that the Chinese "stole" their culture from the Baiyue and that Vietnamese borrowed nothing from China.

In reality we have a confused group of people who on one hand proclaimed themselves the true successors of Chinese dynasties while maintaining a view that they were more civilized ie Sinicized(I recall the Japanese and Koreans did this too) than frontier people while their modern day descendants try to reject this shameful past by claiming that there was a Vietnamese identity prior to Chinese settlement.

Reality is harsh,and some people can't handle that their surnames,culture,language,architecture,customs,religions etc. are derived from other cultures.

As for Ming dynasty clothing the influences were from the Mongols,not southern aboriginals.

Vietnamese/Kinh people is descents from Luo Yue. Vietnamese copied from Bai Yue people.

PS, the official dialect for the Ming Dynasty was the Guanhua spoken at Yangzhou.

It is a special sub-dialect of Guanhua which is spoken in the eastern part of China.

Lower Yangtze Mandarin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(朱元璋) or Zhou Yuanzhang is came from Jangsu, there was land of Wu Yue.

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Vietnamese/Kinh people in the past.

Vietnamese/Kinh people in 21th century.

 

[Grand Historian]

Vietnamese/Kinh people is descents from Luo Yue. Vietnamese copied from Bai Yue people.

(朱元璋) or Zhou Yuanzhang is came from Jangsu, there was land of Wu Yue.

Yawn,why do I have to debunk your lies in every thread,really all you do is repeat the same asinine claims while adding nothing new.

The Vietnamese have very little to do with the Luoyue if there's even a connection,heavy Chinese migration is shown through various stratums of Chinese language that are coined "Native Vietnamese" though they are Old Chinese loans.

Modern day Vietnamese language is the result Trai conquerers imposing a Muongic language on Annamese Middle Chinese that existed in Jiaozhi.

Not only do you fail to realize that Anhui and Jiangsu are separate provinces there's a gap of 1,841 years between the fall of Gou Wu and Ming,while colonization of Jiangsu began in earnest during the Eastern Han.

Again you're nothing more than a petty thief that relies on distorted or outright fabricated history,Vietnamese court clothing is a imitation of Chinese styles,just like ever other facet of traditional "Vietnamese" culture.

 

[William Hung]

I see Vietnamese people still copy some Chinese culture such as celebrating the Chinese new year.

But there is no point in delving too much into Chinese/Confucian culture. Both the VCP and CCP officials has adopted western clothing.

Even when Xi tries to promote Confucianism, he still send his daughter to a western country to attend a western school instead of keeping her back in China to study the Confucious analects. Obviously Xi admits that western culture is superior to Confucian culture.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

(朱元璋) or Zhou Yuanzhang is came from Jangsu, there was land of Wu Yue.

He came from the northern/central part of Jiangsu, which was not the land of Wu Yue.

I see Vietnamese people still copy some Chinese culture such as celebrating the Chinese new year.

But there is no point in delving too much into Chinese/Confucian culture. Both the VCP and CCP officials has adopted western clothing.

Even when Xi tries to promote Confucianism, he still send his daughter to a western country to attend a western school instead of keeping her back in China to study the Confucious analects. Obviously Xi admits that western culture is superior to Confucian culture.

That was his wife's idea, since women in general don't give a damn about the politics.

Xi Jinping got divorced from his first wife because she wanna immigrate to America, while he even rejected that idea when China was dirty poor.

 

[bolo]

U r just like Ah Q and think that he (Ah Q) is the father of every one. In fact, China is just a dirty-polluted-barren land even you also prefer to live in Canada than in China now.

Dont blah blah abt China when u love to stay in Canada

Lol, you retard. You can't even read Hanzi, what do you know about ah q ?

Just some fotos from Vietnam.
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These pics show the might of Annam in its heyday.